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10-24-2002 11:19 PM

guess what dip shit. you have rapists and murderers in america who are white athiests. go ahead and blame the muslims for one serial killing but guess what jackass. athiests have done ten times more mass murders in america.
hell look at catholics, you obviosly support them yet they allow priests for RAPE young boys!

again, some of you people make me fucking sick.

Arkan 10-24-2002 11:32 PM

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":2d904]guess what dip shit. you have rapists and murderers in america who are white athiests. go ahead and blame the muslims for one serial killing but guess what jackass. athiests have done ten times more mass murders in america.
hell look at catholics, you obviosly support them yet they allow priests for RAPE young boys!

again, some of you people make me fucking sick.[/quote:2d904]

I know you're not referring to me there CSF Jaizen.

I'm not blaming the Islamic religion for this guys killing spree. I'm questioning the teachings of this religion. How come "most" terrorists who exist in this world today follow this religion? I know it's ridiculous to group every Muslim together as terrorists but why do the majority of terrorists claim to be Muslim?
If any one cares to know, i don't claim to be of any religion......i just believe that i should be civil to all living things and that should be good enough to call myself a "good" person. I don't believe there is a supreme religion.

Recycled Spooge 10-24-2002 11:37 PM

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":4c6a1]guess what dip shit. you have rapists and murderers in america who are white athiests. go ahead and blame the muslims for one serial killing but guess what jackass. athiests have done ten times more mass murders in america.
hell look at catholics, you obviosly support them yet they allow priests for RAPE young boys!

again, some of you people make me fucking sick.[/quote:4c6a1]
Some with atheism; if in the extreme, atheists have no morals and nothing prevents them from killing, no? There's no hell in atheism, remember that.

By the way, I'm atheist. cool:

Mr.X 10-25-2002 12:40 AM

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":208d6]again, some of you people make me fucking sick.[/quote:208d6]

...exactly who are you refering to here..?...

r3mix 10-25-2002 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkan
I'm not blaming the Islamic religion for this guys killing spree. I'm questioning the teachings of this religion. How come "most" terrorists who exist in this world today follow this religion? I know it's ridiculous to group every Muslim together as terrorists but why do the majority of terrorists claim to be Muslim?

You should research the teachings of this religion then.
It does not promote hate or violence or holy war. Like all religions including christianity it has it fundamentalist followers who are going to practice violence no matter what religion they follow.... theyre jsut gonna do it.

To answer your question about why are most terrorists muslims you again need to realise the information you receive via the media is slanted both for profit and politics.

Osama Bin Laden been doing the same thing for 20 years..... when he was doing it in conjuction with America's interests he was a "freedom fighter"..... when he does it against America's interests he is a "terrorist". Likewise your nation will rejoice at the "political reform" of certain nations and condemn the "bloody coup" of others based on their own foreign policy.

geRV 10-25-2002 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by r3mix
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkan
I'm not blaming the Islamic religion for this guys killing spree. I'm questioning the teachings of this religion. How come "most" terrorists who exist in this world today follow this religion? I know it's ridiculous to group every Muslim together as terrorists but why do the majority of terrorists claim to be Muslim?

You should research the teachings of this religion then.
It does not promote hate or violence or holy war. Like all religions including christianity it has it fundamentalist followers who are going to practice violence no matter what religion they follow.... theyre jsut gonna do it.

To answer your question about why are most terrorists muslims you again need to realise the information you receive via the media is slanted both for profit and politics.

Osama Bin Laden been doing the same thing for 20 years..... when he was doing it in conjuction with America's interests he was a "freedom fighter"..... when he does it against America's interests he is a "terrorist". Likewise your nation will rejoice at the "political reform" of certain nations and condemn the "bloody coup" of others based on their own foreign policy.


Nice post cool:

10-25-2002 02:46 AM

IMO I am really happy that all the known terrorist in the world have religion attached. Imagine if they were atheist. There woulld be no conscience and self-control. Imagine, it'll be 10 times worse. Raping, torturing and certain things that we cannot imagine. If Islam did not exist, they still will always be a terrorist but instead of dying for their god they would die for their country. They will always be terrorist as long as the foreign policy is not changed by the US.

So before you post THINK!!!

Mr.X 10-25-2002 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zxcvnm
IMO I am really happy that all the known terrorist in the world have religion attached. Imagine if they were atheist. There woulld be no conscience and self-control. Imagine, it'll be 10 times worse. Raping, torturing and certain things that we cannot imagine.

So before you post THINK!!!

...so you're suggesting fighters for islam, by virtue of their faith, do not commit rape, torture, and "certain things"..??
....please, take your own advice with regards to THINK!!!ing.

SoLiDUS 10-25-2002 03:10 AM

Why are most terrorists Muslim ? Shit, this isn't a single paragraph answer
but I'll resume it for you to extrapolate later:

1- Just like Good and Bad is subjective, so is terrorism...

2- Set and Setting affected their development: don't forget most american
born Muslims aren't terrorists, as most around the world aren't. Don't forget
what Christians did in the name of God in medieval times...

3- Saying most terrorists are Muslims is one helluva generalization.
(EDIT: they've just been getting more press... or rather: more emphasis
has been placed on that specific caracteristic.)

10-25-2002 03:13 AM

[quote="Mr.X":624ce]
Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcvnm
IMO I am really happy that all the known terrorist in the world have religion attached. Imagine if they were atheist. There woulld be no conscience and self-control. Imagine, it'll be 10 times worse. Raping, torturing and certain things that we cannot imagine.

So before you post THINK!!!

...so you're suggesting fighters for islam, by virtue of their faith, do not commit rape, torture, and "certain things"..??
....please, take your own advice with regards to THINK!!!ing.[/quote:624ce]

Imagine the scale if atheism was ever involved.

r3mix 10-25-2002 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zxcvnm
Imagine the scale if atheism was ever involved.

he is talking about islam
so lets stay on topic and imagine the scale if islam *was* actually involved rather than just alluded to by the media.

we are talking about around a 1 in 5 people here ok?

thats every plane you get onto you are travelling with 60 terrorists
on every bus there bus theres 4
if you share a cab with someone there is more likey than not a terrorist travelling with you.

use your heads ffs.
now that the US has gotten over its "Red Peril" fear of communism they need a new percieved fear. its islam.

Bullet Sponge 10-25-2002 04:16 AM

The issue of language is also if importance here . The language of the Koran is rather vague . Koranic scholars can't seem to come to a concrete position on how to decipher certain passages . Some groups take advantage of this vague wording to justify acts of terror .
Islam in it,s basic form has a great deal in common with Christianity and Judaism . It preaches peace and tollerance . Any idea can be perverted by those with the will to do so . The KKK claims to be a Christian organization , but that seemd rather far fetched to me .

zverushka 10-25-2002 04:38 AM

Bullshit it teaches peace and tolerance. That's why it says to jihad against the infidels.

10-25-2002 04:46 AM

actually it does. if you cared to read about it.

Bullet Sponge 10-25-2002 08:49 AM

Even the meaning of the word jihad is disputed . I've heard several knowledgable people give different definitions of the word . Do a little reading , find out for yourself . I don't support terrorism in any way but to damn an entire belief system for the actions of a few extreamists is wrong . The problems in the middle east are complex and varied , Islamic extreamism is just one of them .


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