If the whole clan uses a Mauser and they kick your ass royally then they're an elite clan. If you win numerous ladders with 'non-n00b' tactics then its an elite clan. If they have fun while owning your ass then they're an elite clan.

stock TDM is based on shotguns. smgs, rockets and sniper rilfes. also depends on the map. "l337" clans IMO have players skilled with a variety of weapons. No one uses rifle in stock matches though. Last time i saw it used was a few months ago by CrabClaw =KaoS= in a OBJ match. He used it in an effective manner on the Hunt.

when you get to the top ten on the ladders anyone can win on anyday. the "l337" clans find away to win..whether its changing tactics on the fly..substituting players between rounds etc...tactics play an integral part of a winning team. You can have average players lead a team to victory due to superior tactics and decision making, over a talented team of shotty whores.

Butters my advice to you is decide what style of game best satisfies your quarter...realism or stock...obj or tdm...then find a TEAM (not clan) that best reflects your ideals and personality.... cool:

I have mohaa full and spearhead but i still play mohaa demo :P
on demo good clans are:

UnS: Ginsu, Unseen
-(sic)-: Numan, Taker, seif Al deim and I
Cum: Cumshot, Cobra, mizike etc...good but not awesome
MoR: Wallhackers so who cares?
FuK: BlackPole(masta), Air, slimemim

Elite:
K2S: Trax, Virus, Lockdown, Syenergy, War
Tek9: most of em are awesome but i believe there is a secret we dont know about...well we know but we dont tell *cough*WH*cough*

And for those interested in tryin out for sic just pm me on demo:
-(sic)- Heretic~666
1- You must be a sniper
2- Be sure you're good enuff before askin. (dont waste our time)
3- You must be online at least 4 days a week, mostly durin the evening
4- We do 3 tryouts before takin some in....except for some people we know are good.

GL! :)

I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:

[quote="{-BaH-} The High Kid":cbea4]I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:[/quote:cbea4]

shotties are essential in stock TDM...not in CKR realism. no one uses them. Realism is great for rifles...one shot one kill.... happy:

You mean like a long range, super accurate shotgun???? ed:

[quote="{-BaH-} The High Kid":66588]I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:[/quote:66588]

dude, where did Forlorn Hope go to?
I tried to get on yesterday and it was like it just died.

like you said its great when you own with the mauser, especially that one time some n00bs accused you me and some other guy of cheating.

PS. When are you guys going to compete, I want to get you in a match with the LRRPs. (or are you more of a club than a clan)

guess its a clan that has fun kicking ppl...
 

ours isnt an elite clan, it is too lose, exept 4 the ocasion party, where we fight each other, we r not really involved in comps, we r not in any ladder comps... we r just 4 fun...
biggrin: M16:
fire1: M16:

http://www.the-fog.net biggrin:

KaoS, DOA, POAAC (Not leet, just cool), and SS

yah mostly everyone in our clan uses the rifle and we all pretty good i usually rack up round 60 kills with axis rifle in a 20 minute tdm

LOL Now that I think of it, no clan, no club just a party! wOOt! Crow is BSing and I have no clue where it is! But fear not, if it isn't up by tomorrow we will get a new server with more people I think. When are we going to compete? LOL when we get a steady stream of players and we get up off of our lazy arses!!!! Ill see ya soon on Forlorn Hope of some type!

It's been far too long since I played there.
I'll bring some LRRPs with me next time.