[quote="[DAS REICH]Blitz":80b60]Elaborate plz.[/quote:80b60]ok. In my opinion, the last few years the league has been going downhill. The players seem to be just playing for themselves and not as a team. Allan Iverson (i like the 76ers-->philly) is considered amazing. But when I look at his shots made compared to shots attempted, I feel i could have done better; he freaking takes 50 shots a game and makes 20 of them. That brawl didn't help the NBA's image either.

[quote=Coleman] But when I look at his shots made compared to shots attempted, I feel i could have done better; he freaking takes 50 shots a game and makes 20 of them.[/quote:9300c]Ok all your points are valid except for this, imagine taking 50 shots a game with a 6'+ guy right in your face about to smash you. Youll def miss more than 30

[quote="[DAS REICH]Blitz":ca148][quote=Coleman] But when I look at his shots made compared to shots attempted, I feel i could have done better; he freaking takes 50 shots a game and makes 20 of them.[/quote:ca148]Ok all your points are valid except for this, imagine taking 50 shots a game with a 6'+ guy right in your face about to smash you. Youll def miss more than 30[/quote:ca148]

Thats why we pass the ball around.

[quote=Milla][quote="[DAS REICH]Blitz":2b418]Ok all your points are valid except for this, imagine taking 50 shots a game with a 6'+ guy right in your face about to smash you. Youll def miss more than 30[/quote:2b418]

Thats why we pass the ball around.[/quote:2b418]yeah that's what I'm saying. Iverson is a ball hog that just takes some of the dumbest shots. Yeah, he's a great ball handler and plays defense pretty well. It's just disappointing how he gets away with taking that many shots in a game. I should have put more of an emphasis in my argument about how he takes too many shots (misses many as a side argument) when he has other team mates that are set up for better shots. By the way, I believe Iverson is either 6' or 6'1''.

i bet its because without iverson what is the 76ers? they would have nothing just a shitty team that no fans would wanna watch..

Yeh hes 6'0

Report: Did Carter tip off the Sonics?

TSN.ca Staff with Seattle News Tribune files

12/19/2004

Vince Carter may have written his ticket out of Toronto in more ways than one.

The Seattle News Tribune reported Sunday that Raptors general manager Rob Babcock was informed last week that Carter may have tried to sabotage his team in a game against the SuperSonics a month ago.

Though there is no correllation between the information and Babcock's trading of Carter on Friday, the once popular Toronto guard was dealt less than 48 hours after Babcock was interviewed for a story about Carter's actions in the Nov. 19 game.

According to the News Tribune, three members of the Sonics said they believed Carter intentionally tipped off a play during the final minute of the Toronto's 101-94 loss.

With 29 seconds left in the game, and the Sonics leading 97-90, the Raptors called a timeout. After returning to the court, Carter lined up along the edge of the key, facing the Sonics' bench.

According to the players, Carter said directly to the Seattle bench, "It's a flare. It's a flare," hinting that the Raptors were running the flare play.

The Raptors then ran a flare play for Carter. He then made his way up the key with Sonics guard Ray Allen following him. Raptors forward Matt Bonner then set a screen on Allen for Carter, who then flared toward the opposite corner. A pass from Morris Peterson was made too long for Carter. Unable to make a clean shot, he passed the ball to Bonner, who hit a 22-foot shot from the top of the key.

According to one Sonics player, the bench reacted by saying, "Did you hear that? Did you see that? That's (expletive) up."

Allen, who was guarding Carter, told the paper: "I didn't hear it, but that's what those other guys were saying (after the game), Reggie (Evans) and those other guys. But all I said was, 'Why would he do that?' I don't know why he would do that."

"I don't want to get involved in that stuff, man," Evans said. "That stuff is deep. I ain't scared of Vince or nothing like that, but that is between him and his conscience. I ain't saying it did happen or it didn't happen. I'll leave that for Ray. I'll let Ray do all that type of talking, man."

Carter, reached through Raptors spokesman Jim LaBumbard, responded, "I'm not going to comment on something as ridiculous as that."

Babcock was reached by the News Tribune on Wednesday and said: "I hadn't heard that. I would hope that would not be the case, but I am not aware of that. If he did do that, I would be quite upset with that. But I don't know anything about that. It is nothing I heard."

"That's the type of thing that, if I was aware of it, we would deal with it internally, and we certainly would deal with it. But I am not aware of that.

"If something comes up to me like that, and it is solid, and it is obvious that it did happen, we would take care of it internally."

Files from the Seattle News Tribune were used for this report.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/st ... 3627c.html
http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story.asp?id=108594

Thats messed up if he actually did that. stupid:

Wow, thats pretty retarded if he actually did that.

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ps mourning is having tests runs and will probably retire again...ROFL...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1949164

the raptors just took these boons to unload salary cap money

the raptors suck a fat cock.

where you at pyro...you were riding their dick hard earlier this season.

its about time they got rid of Vince, finally the soap opera ends

[quote:eb9c9]ps mourning is having tests runs and will probably retire again...ROFL...[/quote:eb9c9] At least he had a lengthy, happy, productive career in Toronto, oh wait he didnt. oOo:

I was at that game, and honestly it does seem like it.

My favourtie saying at the raptors game = Your a waste OF FUCKING dna VInce !" (said by the guy only 4 or 5 rows from him. The bastard just smiled his ass off when the Raptors lost, it pissed me off.

[quote="Short Hand":79909]Your a waste OF FUCKING dna VInce !"[/quote:79909]

ROFL!!!!! I'm so using that on someone.

Vince has sucked ass for the past couple of years and was too fragile. Every week he'd hit the deck clutching some body part in agony.

Good riddance.