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Pyro 12-21-2004 08:54 PM

Fine, may all the congress die just like the soliders they sent to their deatsh.

Judas 12-21-2004 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
the media plays such a large role in today's society. Back in WWII, the media was filled with propaganda. Without that propaganda we definately wouldn't have had the home support that we did. You didn't really hear about 'controversial' wars until Vietnam. Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.

i agree with you.

Arkan 12-21-2004 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Fine, may all the congress die just like the soliders they sent to their deatsh.

Thats more like it Pyro.

Mr.Buttocks 12-21-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.


Yeah that's right......we can't have the "We Support the Troops" flag waving "war cheerleaders" at home actually seeing dead bodies. Poor souls. annoy:

Coleman 12-21-2004 10:26 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":d6640]
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Originally Posted by Coleman
Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.


Yeah that's right......we can't have the "We Support the Troops" flag waving "war cheerleaders" at home actually seeing dead bodies. Poor souls. annoy:[/quote:d6640]I'd rather come home from work to see good news being reported rather than hearing about 2 people dying every day even if the news leaned to a side that promoted the war.

ninty 12-21-2004 10:35 PM

[quote=Coleman]
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Originally Posted by "Mr.Buttocks":fe54e
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Originally Posted by Coleman
Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.


Yeah that's right......we can't have the "We Support the Troops" flag waving "war cheerleaders" at home actually seeing dead bodies. Poor souls. annoy:

I'd rather come home from work to see good news being reported rather than hearing about 2 people dying every day even if the news leaned to a side that promoted the war.[/quote:fe54e]

Thats messed up. oOo:

Your essentially saying that the government could do whatever they want, and say everything went well, even though everything didn't go well, and you'd rather be led to believe everything is going fine.

Sounds like 1984 where when they switch sides in the war and they erase all evidence of that and say they were always at war with eurasia.

If everyone in the US thought like that, 1984 must not be far off now. oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

You can have good news and bad news reported at the same time. Ignoring one or the other is not wise in my opinion.

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Just a question to anyone who wants to answer:

Do you believe that the Vietnam war, and the Iraq war can be compared to World war II?

Vietnam was more or less about the spread of Communism. Iraq, well I don't know what this war is about. I thought it was about weapons of mass destruction.

My opinion is that if a war is justified, most people wouldn't have a problem fighting it.

Hitler was killing millions of people. Hitler took over all of western europe.
Saddam was killion thousands of civilians. Didn'ty really take over any countries, except for the gulf war, but even the UN supported action there.

Ask yourself if there is a difference between these causes for war. You may say yes, you may say no.

I can see similarities between Hitler and Saddam. However, there has to be a line drawn somewhere. If were out to get dictators, man there are a lot of them out there. Are we really going to invade each country that has a dictator as a leader? Is that our right and duty to do so? Or is it the responsibilty of the people who live there to do it? What if those people don't want change? What gives us the right to change it for them? Do you not think that if another country invaded your home country, you'd fight the occupation? I know I would. These are questions I ahve pondered. And from these questions I draw my conclusions.

All in all, I see WWII as a justified fight. Countries had been occupied. Populations exterminated.

I don't see those particulars happening in Vietnam or Iraq to an extent that justifies war in my mind. And that is why I think we see negative press. I know a lot of people feel the same way I do. I think if Iraq had nuked israel, and saddams tanks were marching into kuwait and iran, then the world would respond in a sufficient manner. I odn't think the world sees what happened leading up to the iraq war as justification for the actions taken. I believe those are the underlying principals.

Quze 12-21-2004 11:04 PM

Insurgents moral must have doubled after hearing the news of that.

guarnere 12-22-2004 01:55 AM

EDIT: Stick to topic please

-Arkan

KTOG 12-22-2004 02:16 AM

EDIT: Not appropriate for this thread.

-Arkan

elstatec 12-22-2004 04:17 AM

sitting ducks hake:


the wars over but the iraqis wont rest til the americans etc are out of their country

Jimbo@ 12-22-2004 04:22 AM

This is the price for war unfortuantely. I wouldn't call this a tragedy, more like occupational hazard. However it wasnt a necessary one, they could have been better protected in that tent.

Short Hand 12-22-2004 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
the media plays such a large role in today's society. Back in WWII, the media was filled with propaganda. Without that propaganda we definately wouldn't have had the home support that we did. You didn't really hear about 'controversial' wars until Vietnam. Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.

are you fucking kidding me ?

Wilko 12-22-2004 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
sitting ducks hake:


the wars over but the iraqis wont rest til the americans etc are out of their country

Funny how they get all pissy about a Foreign army coming into their country and throwing missiles at Baghdad willy-nilly, and putting in an obviously puppet leader.

Fucking sissies need to learn to get over shit, and stop doing dumb crap like attacking their occupiers.

[/sarcasm]

Jakke 12-22-2004 06:39 AM

damn shitty war!
can't there be love and peace instead of shooting and killing annoy:

Coleman 12-22-2004 01:30 PM

[quote="Short Hand":e3f9d]
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Originally Posted by Coleman
the media plays such a large role in today's society. Back in WWII, the media was filled with propaganda. Without that propaganda we definately wouldn't have had the home support that we did. You didn't really hear about 'controversial' wars until Vietnam. Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.

are you fucking kidding me ?[/quote:e3f9d]did i put the [/kidding] brackets in? I think not.


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