ninty |
01-20-2006 11:01 PM |
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Originally Posted by Judas
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Originally Posted by ninty
The first gospels were not written until 40 years after Jesus' death and link between the bible and Jesus goes through Paul. Unfortunately, in his hundreds of pages of writings, he never mentions Jesus once.
The thing is, with Caesar, people were around writing about him when he existed. Nobody ever wrote anything about Jesus when he was alive.
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I don’t know the history behind it, but ill take your word that you do.
I’m still left wondering how one would benefit by contriving such a tale. Especially in a time where following anyone other than your countries leaders would result in your own death. Obviously, it wasn’t safe to profess your faith at the time of Christ’s death, and I’m pretty sure that Christians were persecuted for years to come after his death. So, why would you commit to paper something that you knew would result in your own death until you felt safe to do so? Again, I’m not a bible scholar, but I’m pretty sure there are other authors besides peter who had some knowledge, and written about, such a person.
Also, this information has been around for what, more than a thousand years? Doesn’t it seem logical that by now someone would have definitively proven that there wasn’t such a man?
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I'm not a scholar either.
I "am" a Roman Catholic. I went to a catholic school for 13 years. It wasn't until a few years ago that I decided I was agnostic, and more recently, and atheist. I have nothing against religion. If anyone wants to pray to whomever, go right ahead. I think for me personally, studying space and the like made me realize that the people on this planet are really nothing special, so why do we have to make ourselves feel special by having a savior and a god who created us and looks after us? After thinking about that question for a long time, it because apparent to me that we are nothing more than biology, chemistry and physics.
As for why people would make up a story, I can guess, but never be certain. And I’m sure there are others in this world that could give you a much more complete answer, but religion is a very powerful tool. And especially 2000 years ago, those who controlled religion, controlled power. Grow your religion, grow your own power. This is shown through the fact that many holidays like Christmas and Easter were celebrated before Christ ever came about. Christmas was celebrated by the pagans. They used to celebrate around dec 25 because the sun would "die" on the 21st, because of the longer days, and they would try to appease the gods to make sure the sun would always come back. There are many examples of pagan traditions merging with Christian traditions. Some would say this is because the church tried to drown the pagan religion out by assimilating them.
All I can really say is the existence of god for me seems so I’mrobable, that it makes me an atheist. And the circumstances surrounding Christ also seem so I’mrobable, that I have decided he did not exist.
Until such time as it can be proven he did infact exist, I will continue to side with the fact that he didn't exist. And I’m pretty sure it's never been proven that he existed. In fact, I was recently reading an article where a judge ordered a priest to prove that Christ existed. Infact, here's an article if you’re interested:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/ ... Exist.html
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