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Zap. USMC 09-08-2002 04:19 PM

Give me a fuckin' break...

He better be fucking glad he's alive.

Mr.X 09-08-2002 04:40 PM

...yep, so what if that article is about legal inconsistency, so the law is (frequently) an ass...no suprises there,
it's still Solidus pushing his John Lindh barrow....again....

Old Reliable 09-08-2002 04:44 PM

I think he's brainwashed thinking that people are brainwashed

Pfc.Green 09-08-2002 05:08 PM

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":e7f9f]I don't really think Green cares about political correctness. I sure don't, and I'm a Republican/Conservative.[/quote:e7f9f]

I think PC is fucking shit.

Recycled Spooge 09-08-2002 05:26 PM

I hate when people don't understand the meaning if conservative, but they say they are conservative.

09-08-2002 05:28 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":9ee3d]I hate when people don't understand the meaning if conservative, but they say they are conservative.[/quote:9ee3d]Are you conservative?

Recycled Spooge 09-08-2002 05:37 PM

[quote=FlipSide]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Recycled Spooge":b2990
I hate when people don't understand the meaning if conservative, but they say they are conservative.

Are you conservative?[/quote:b2990]
No, I'm not.

09-08-2002 05:38 PM

You like clinton?
Are you liberal?

Sicilian_Summers 09-08-2002 05:44 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":4b23b]I hate when people don't understand the meaning if conservative, but they say they are conservative.[/quote:4b23b]

spooge...could you please give your definition of conservative?

as you have stated, it varies from person to person. my father seems to believe it is based on making something of yourself by working...and things along those lines.

SoLiDUS 09-08-2002 05:47 PM

[quote="Mr.X":28c73]...yep, so what if that article is about legal inconsistency, so the law is (frequently) an ass...no suprises there,
it's still Solidus pushing his John Lindh barrow....again....[/quote:28c73]

No, it's an informative article detailing how Lindh ISN'T a fucking terrorist as
you so perfectly label him. He fought for a cause over there WAY before any
of these attacks were made and he had NOTHING to do with them.

Why he decided to fight with a resistance group over there is beyond me,
but it's NO EXCUSE for labelling him a terrorist and throwing him in jail 20
(jesus, murderers get a fifth that sentence) fucking years. He was indeed railroaded.

[quote:28c73]Now let's consider the case of John Walker Lindh, who so far as we know killed no one yet got 20 years-and that with a plea bargain! "I provided my services as a soldier to the Taliban last year from about August to November," he said as part of the plea arrangement. "During the course of doing so I carried a rifle and two grenades." Technically, this was a crime; President Clinton had signed a little-known 1999 executive order linking the Taliban to Al Qaeda, a terrorist organization. However, both Clinton and George W. Bush violated such executive orders themselves by dealing with the Taliban-and by providing them with financing and arms in attempts to bribe their way to an oil pipeline deal and reduce heroin production. So why aren't those two criminals chanting morning prayers in Guantánamo? Shouldn't they have to cut a deal too?

Lindh didn't go to Afghanistan to fight the United States-an act that would have made him a traitor had war ever been declared. He joined one side in the Afghan civil war between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance. During that conflict, from 1996 to 2001, the U.S. assiduously avoided favoring one side over another.

At Mazar he was captured by the Northern Alliance, not the U.S. The fact that CIA agent Spann traveled with Alliance forces and interrogated prisoners doesn't change that reality, and the government offered no evidence that Lindh attacked or offered resistance to U.S. personnel. The United States never declared war against the Taliban-therefore, there was no legal basis for charges against Lindh.[/quote:28c73]

Did anyone here actually read this investigative essay before proceeding to
his beheading anyway?

Innoxx 09-08-2002 05:48 PM

This reminded me of that one scene in Band of Brothers when they captured those germans and one of them happened to be american..... then spiers shot them all.....hmmmmmm. I don't think they are going easy on walker, so what if he's just young? fuck you. About those northern alliance and us forces who threated him like shit? well, i think they deserve a little payback, and i think the military is too soft these days.

Sicilian_Summers 09-08-2002 05:50 PM

[quote:38c8f]Why he decided to fight with a resistance group over there is beyond me,
but it's NO EXCUSE for labelling him a terrorist and throwing him in jail 20
(jesus, murderers get a fifth that sentence) fucking years. He was indeed railroaded. [/quote:38c8f]

it is my personal opinion, that that has to do with a fucked up justice system...however, being labeled a terrorist does in fact go hand in hand with that. you make a valid point. it seems as if our rights as americans are being taken away by the newly formed ways of being labeled a terrorist.

Old Reliable 09-08-2002 05:50 PM

Well seeing as it is an article from a cartoonist, it's not something I take into high regard.

Sicilian_Summers 09-08-2002 05:52 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":9683e]Well seeing as it is an article from a cartoonist, it's not something I take into high regard.[/quote:9683e]

what a man does for a living should have nothing to with the amount of respect he gets (except of course...if its being done illegally)

if it was written by a garbage man, a truck driver, a corporate businessman..it would make no difference. the point is still there.

Old Reliable 09-08-2002 05:53 PM

Well when you get to college you will soon learn about reliable sources...


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