[quote="Capt. John Miller":1b215]DOWN WITH THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!! M16: ........wait..i live in the south! cry:[/quote:1b215]

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HEY IM FROM NEW YORK IM NO REDNECK!!!!!!! I HATE THE SOUTH! M16: biggrin:

[quote="Capt. John Miller":ee62f]HEY IM FROM NEW YORK IM NO REDNECK!!!!!!! I HATE THE SOUTH! M16: biggrin:[/quote:ee62f]

lol a NOO yawwwkah biggrin:

Why did you move to hickville anyway?

Taxes in NY are off the FUCKING SCALE almost highest in the US so we moved here where it looks the same but cheaper. Hence im in virginia lol

[quote="Capt. John Miller":ac599]Taxes in NY are off the FUCKING SCALE almost highest in the US so we moved here where it looks the same but cheaper. Hence im in virginia lol[/quote:ac599]

How long you living there now anyway?

Well ive been in VA for 2 years now

Ok, time for my input. As for not flying the flag in a public school?, maybe thats not a bad idea.....flying it on a pole outside the school should be a no-no. But to ban a confederate flag shirt a kid might wear? ...bad idea. This country is based on freedom of speech, religion, yada, yada, yada, and to put a ban on that is teaching children the opposite of what this country is based.
Now, if you ask me for my 'personal opinion' about flags, i'll say this. Even though my opinion goes against what i just said, i think no flag, other than the American, MIA, & Military flags should be displayed in this country. To fly any other is disrespectful to all the service men & women who gave their lives fighting for this country!! (That goes for Confederate, Puerto Rico, Italian, African, Nazi..blah, blah that you find on someones rearview mirror.) But again, this is how i feel, not how it is done.

.....i'm not even gonna touch the white/black issue !!

What about embassies? Or what if the flag is flown by the American flag showing unity?

ok, you got me there.....but you see my point !!

Well, we have a professor here at K-state from England and he flies the British Naval Ensign above his house, his father served on a H.M. Cruiser during WWII, so I think he has a damn good reason (honoring his ancestors)

[quote="MR. SPECIAL ED":d4234]Ahhh - if im offended by the flag I MUST be a retard.

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No, but that conclusion makes you one. Go back and read the sentence dumbass. I said intimidated. Like the original subject says. Anyways, I am not going to go back and argue sentence structure and grammar. We just disagree. As I said from the beginning, if you do it for one, you should do it for the other. Do away with the double standard.

Spooge - it would seem that way on the surface, but not really. A liberal would have no problem letting someone burn the american flag, but if it involves a minority, then you lose all your rights. And hell, this is the US, if Bush dont need a dictionary, then I dont either. ;)

What if someone is passing through the country on a business trip? Also, why should we waste the Police' time and money on catching criminals with flags on their cars.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":71a17]What if someone is passing through the country on a business trip? Also, why should we waste the Police' time and money on catching criminals with flags on their cars.[/quote:71a17]

Dude, what the hell are you talking about?? I think you're making shit up. Go back and read my post...i never said anything about "policing"....all i said was, and i quote: "i think no flag, other than the American, MIA, & Military flags should be displayed in this country. To fly any other is disrespectful to all the service men & women who gave their lives fighting for this country!!"

Now where does it say anything about the police?? This is **drumroll please******* MY OPINION !!!!!!!!!! Tada!!

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Spooge - it would seem that way on the surface, but not really. A liberal would have no problem letting someone burn the american flag, but if it involves a minority, then you lose all your rights. And hell, this is the US, if Bush dont need a dictionary, then I dont either. ;)
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Right back at you, slick. To me, both of you guys, Green and you, are a bunch of ignorant inconsiderate nazis who have no human compassion of any kind to the black slaves and their descendants. In conclusion, if you are using a damn term, use it properly. Liberals, REAL liberals, believe in equality, so I don't see how a minority has more rights according to a REAL liberal. Communists were the ultimate liberals, while fascists were the ultimate conservatives. Fascists base their ideals on race, so these people that you are describing are liberal fascists? It makes no sense, homez...YO!

Congratulations on explaining the obvious. I expected more of you. I expected that if you had an opinion, you would at least have a logical opinion based on reality, which is what I ment; how will your opinion work in reality, and you have clearly explained that it does not, so thank you. Your opinion does not work in practical use.

[img]http://www.cultural-expressions.com/thesis/confederate.gif[/img] = burn it


[img]http://members.rogers.com/51mhs/Menu/Remember%20911/USA%20flag.jpg[/img] = burn it


[img]http://www.tmsglobal.com/images/ire_flag.jpg[/img] = OWNZ JOO


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who cares aout that school banning the confederate flag, no one's gonna get hurt anyways

Aint these threads fun

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What happens if my leg were made of a confederate flag?

Would I not be allowed in the school? I think we should all take a moment to consider this...

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You would have been executed by a gun squad obviously.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":36177]You would have been executed by a gun squad obviously.[/quote:36177]

Really? Like just if I lived there or would I be executed anywhere in the world?

[quote=ninty9]Really? Like just if I lived there or would I be executed anywhere in the world?[/quote:98aae]
Only in the U.S. On the other hand, in China you would have been hailed as a hero, and they would have named a street after you.

Hmmm, very interesting.

Hehehe. Crazy Chinese.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":a16a3]

To me, both of you guys, Green and you, are a bunch of ignorant inconsiderate nazis who have no human compassion of any kind to the black slaves and their descendants[/quote:a16a3]

Coming from such a compassionate guy as you, that really hurts.

[quote=pest]Coming from such a compassionate guy as you, that really hurts.[/quote:0f72b]
Reread my post, and reread the first, second and third sentences about twenty-four times. Then, come back and write a reply worth reading.

Ah ha ha...intimidated versus offended by or yadda yadda yadda. If someone walks into a school and see a flag that supported a dark part in their peoples history - poopoo on them for being intimidate by the climate and social structure that allows it. They just need to grow up, and not think that just because someone waves a flag that has no real redeeming qualities other than historical merit, that there will be fine Amerikkkans who believe in what that flag represents. I guess, folks who are intimidated should just TRUST their fellow American to seperate past from present and act resposibly.

Ah ha. Gotcha.

[quote=pest]Coming from such a compassionate guy as you, that really hurts.[/quote:c5431]
Ah hell, I'll just tell you that by saying that I was acting like you were acting. You call me, a liberal, some crazy fascist, then I will call you, a conservative, some crazy fascist, and we'll see who feels better. Neither mine attack nor your attack makes any sense, and that's the whole joke. Thus, it's a lesson in using correct terms and their correct meaning.

I really dont want to split hairs over definitions. Its petty and off topic. You are stating book definitions that dont particularly relate to the context I intended. If you really want to get technical, there weren't any communists, they were/are closer to socialist, but thats not really important either, is it? If your going to mark posts for grammar and syntax, maybe you should use a red pen.

im...
 

im so sick and tired of being called racist because i live in the south ... hake:
and peeps making fun of me saying Howdy or Aint

I AiNT RACIST

I live in South Alabama
Near Gulf Shores and Mobile alabama

And another thing
WE DO NOT DATE OUR SISTERS AND COUSINS THATS BULLBUTTER

I'm pretty sure that Marx and Engels were communists. By liberal, you are mentioning me, and I am by far not politically correct...EVER, so don't label me as one.

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Me neither, but evidently I am because I'm a liberal, and this makes me have a double standard against white people.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":ce0e2]
I'm pretty sure that Marx and Engels were communists. By liberal, you are mentioning me, and I am by far not politically correct...EVER, so don't label me as one.[/quote:ce0e2]

Yes, they were communist theorists (living fat in france), but the Soviet SOCIALIST republic was much closer in practice to socialism than communism. Marx' Communist manifesto is one of the most painfully boring pieces of literature I have ever had to read. It seemed to be more about revenge against the bourgeois than equality.

Gee, never noticed that you werent politically correct. :rolleyes:

Again I say most of the people that I have met that display the Confertate flag are doing it because the think it puts another race down and nothing to do with heritage

And Arkan, I tell you what my father said to me when we watched protestera burning the American flag on the news durning the Viet Nam War, he said "I don't like what they are doing, but I fought in World War Two so they could have the freedom do that. It's a symbol, nothing more.

The Ameican Flag is a symbol of Freedom, and our freedoms are more important than a symbol .
Display it proudly.

ENJOY

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I agree totally with u sparky

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[quote=pest]Yes, they were communist theorists (living fat in france), but the Soviet SOCIALIST republic was much closer in practice to socialism than communism. Marx' Communist manifesto is one of the most painfully boring pieces of literature I have ever had to read. It seemed to be more about revenge against the bourgeois than equality.

Gee, never noticed that you werent politically correct. :rolleyes:[/quote:72d29]

Communist theorists... so there's no democrats, but democrat theorists, or no nazis but nazi theorists? The Soviet SOCIALIST Republic, as you put it, was was never a communist nation nor a socialist nation. It was a totalitarian nation, and the workers did not own anything. Instead, the country was run by a bunch of thugs and former criminals; it was controlled by the few. Also, according to Marx, the revolution was supposed to take place in a industrialy developed nation, and obviously 1917 Russia was not something one would describe as an industrially developed nation.

Ok, and regarding the topic, I believe that a public school should not be bias toward any type of political, racial, religious, or economical ideals. If there are ideals taught or represented in a school, all the ideals should be taught and represented equally. School should be a perfectly neutral place, which should have the American flag just to show that the school is located in the United States. The Confederate Flag represents a set of ideals, just like having the Ten Commandments up on the wall of a classroom; thus, making the school bias toward some set of ideals. In terms of what people wear in the school, they should be able to wear whatever they want. Last of all, in my opinion, the Confederate Flag is a symbol of an alien nation that was never part of the United States; it's like hanging up the Italian flag in front of a public American school. It makes no sense to me. :P

The reason why the conferdate flag was banned from the school is for one reason and one reason only, it was disrupting the educational experience for the other students. If they took this case all the way to the Supreme Court saying that their first amendment rights were broken, they would get shot down by the supreme court. I know this because I am in a Legal Civics class this year and we've done debates on things dealing with the first amendment.

There was a case called the Tinker case that took place in school. Students were wearing black armbands with the peace symbol on it which was protesting the vietnam war back when it was going on. The school board tried to ban them from wearing armbands so they suspended them from school. The Tinkers took this to court and it was backed by the ACLU which is an organization that supports cases with first amendment offenses. The case went all the way up to the supreme court and they ruled in favor of the students. They said that the armbands was a freedom of speach via symbolic expression. But they could not ban them from wearing arm bands because it did not disrupt any other students educational experience.

You can say the same thing here only the confederate flag WILL cause issues in school because the KKK uses this flag during their rituals and such. I'm sure there's other reasons why the confederate flag will cause debates and things but that's probably the main reason.

You could try bringing this to court but...you wont win overall.

"disrupting the educational experience " biggrin: hake: biggrin:

Here in Sweden we cant listen on a band that sings about sweden,our culture,vikings and their way of life without be called a nazi thanks to the damn political and shitty newspaper but noone is complaining when you are listening on tupac or wu-tang and rap shit like that even though they sing that they dont like white people and sings abour raping people and taking drogs. Thats just sick

Some people wear the soviet flag on their t-shirt without being called something even though the soviet nation was one of the brutaliest in the world killed millions and millions of people much more than Hitler. Stalin killed up to 60 million and think about the other leaders under the soviet union.
But Hitler killed up to 12 million and if you were a shirt with the svastika (noone does it anyway) whole sweden would come chasing after you. Kinda sick I think. Dont take this wrong I hate the soviet union as much as I hate the nazi but its sick that people arentt aware that the soviet was the brutaliest of them.

I think Hitler was a little worse than Stalin. Hitler was pretty much directly responsible for all the deaths of WWII which would be about 66 million. Stalin on the other hand was more responsible for 15-20 million either starved or executed.