Good questions. It would take alot of money, but the benefits would be huge in the long run.... Oops I forgot who cares about the long run..

Now all they need to do is screw NMD,
put Tomcat back in production,
and cancel the tax cut on the major corporations (they don't deserve a tax cut) so that education doesn't suffer.
Then I'll have the utmost respect for the President.

[quote="Pfc.Green":8f4cf]Well think what you want, our military personell are not paid very much, they should be. And thats the main reason this bill is good, hell you Canucks should be concerned the way your military is dissappering you wont be able to defend yourselves from an attack by four fat eskimos armed with rocks.[/quote:8f4cf]

You can say that again, I saw enlisted personnell paying with food stamps at the local grocery store.
In my book pay that low IS A FUCKING CRIME!

[quote="Founding_Law":56fa8]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol[/quote:56fa8]
I would rather see the money being sent to SCHOOLS other than the military. I hoping that you at least realize the conditions of various school in America, expecially urban schools.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":10e1b][quote="Founding_Law":10e1b]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol[/quote:10e1b]
I would rather see the money being sent to SCHOOLS other than the military. I hoping that you at least realize the conditions of various school in America, expecially urban schools.[/quote:10e1b]

Also, we don't really have the money. Military spending is one of the ways Regan ran up the deficit so high in the first place.

[quote="Pfc.Green":57eb8]Hey as I said, increased budget= increased pay for me and the rest of the military cool: 4.1% increase.[/quote:57eb8]
Well, obviously you have your own selfish agenda in all of this. So your whole support of the defence budget increase rests on the reason that your pay will rise? That's it? You seem like a selfish spoiled kid.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":dcca4][quote="Pfc.Green":dcca4]Hey as I said, increased budget= increased pay for me and the rest of the military cool: 4.1% increase.[/quote:dcca4]
Well, obviously you have your own selfish agenda in all of this. So your whole support of the defence budget invrease rests on the reason that your pay will rise? That's it? You seem like a selfish spoiled kid.[/quote:dcca4]

Now, now Spooge. That was not nice. True, but not nice. evil:

Doesn't everyone think it very funny that people from foreign countries seem to know everything about the United States and how its people live?

Also, I think I agree with Low Spark here, when he says that increasing military spending will run the defecit even higher.. God knows we have enough taxes as is.

Also, I would love to see the money go to schools as well.. unfortunately I believe strik0r mentioned to me that the last time this county received a large government grant to the schools 45% of it was used to raise the salary of the school board and the other 55% towards purchasing a nice new office building... hake:

[quote="Low spark":d66b7][quote="Recycled Spooge":d66b7][quote="Founding_Law":d66b7]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol[/quote:d66b7]
I would rather see the money being sent to SCHOOLS other than the military. I hoping that you at least realize the conditions of various school in America, expecially urban schools.[/quote:d66b7]

Also, we don't really have the money. Military spending is one of the ways Regan ran up the deficit so high in the first place.[/quote:d66b7]

just raise taxes on people liek Bill Gates, problem solved evil:

(BTW. if my computer crashes after I post this, I'm sueing Microsoft)

[quote="Pfc.Green":ce802]hell you Canucks should be concerned the way your military is dissappering you wont be able to defend yourselves from an attack by four fat eskimos armed with rocks.[/quote:ce802]
Canada is in NATO, so the U.S. will bust out their elite illiterate illeducated troops with $200,000 equipment and they will just do the fighting for the Canadians.:D

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just raise taxes on people liek Bill Gates, problem solved evil:

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You don't get the reason why politicians give tax breaks to Corporations. It is called the trickle down policy. If Corporations don't pay as much in taxes then more money will trickle down to their political campaigns/

[quote="Recycled Spooge":fb228][quote="Pfc.Green":fb228]hell you Canucks should be concerned the way your military is dissappering you wont be able to defend yourselves from an attack by four fat eskimos armed with rocks.[/quote:fb228]
Canada is in NATO, so the U.S. will bust out their elite illiterate illeducated troops with $200,000 equipment and they will just do the fighting for the Canadians.:D[/quote:fb228]


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Hehe, great Smilies Gerard..... biggrin:

[Fairly Jokey tone]

WHY AMERICA RESEMBLES NAZI-GERMANY

Hitler - Bush
Gestapo - FBI
Goebbels - Cheney
Himmler - Powell
Goering - Rumsfeld

*Overly Nationalistic, patriotic peoples

*Citizens, beileve their race is superior to others (Although they won't admit it many Americans think of Arabs as less of a person, than themselves)

*Massive re-armament currently taking place

*Bush (Hitler) is resisting UN (League Of Nations) and forcing invasion against Iraq (Czechoslovakia).

*Angry at loss of last big war, Vietnam (WW1)

....Just something to think about, I don't seriously believe this its just a small joke....Feel free to make corrections, or add something else... biggrin:

[/fairly jokey tone]

I'm sorry if you can't take a joke and feel offended.

Well heres a correction for ya Trip, we are not re-arming.

[quote="Pfc.Green":06d5a]Well heres a correction for ya Trip, we are not re-arming.[/quote:06d5a]

[quote:06d5a]The $355.4 billion defense bill[/quote:06d5a]

That would seem to suggest otherwise.

bush = hitler lmao. SADDAM Husayn is closer to hitler.

[quote="Founding_Law"] SADDAM Husayn quote]



Who? eek:

Yeah, Sadaam... who??

[quote=Gerard][quote:94498]The $355.4 billion defense bill[/quote:94498]

That would seem to suggest otherwise.[/quote:94498]

Actually it doesnt.

[quote="Founding_Law":01af6]bush = hitler lmao. SADDAM Husayn is closer to hitler.[/quote:01af6]
His name is spelled Hussien.

Why would a nation who sets world policy, resemble a nation who was rebelling against the world policies against it?

Seems pretty silly to compare America to Germany. If you REALLY think Americans are in that much danger, or as gullible then you need to a) do a history lesson, and b) read popular opinion polls to see what Americans really think.

Last I heard you spoke out against the Nazi regime, chances are you might not wake up in the morning. Nazi Germany came about because the Germans had NO other choice, and a manipulative man saw a MASSIVE oppurtunity to prey on the feelings of an entire nation.

So, I laugh as all hell when someone even THINKS about drawing a comparison between the United States and really ANY country or regime with Ecpassionist goals. It just shows the true bias and hypocrisy that really exists out there.

So what you are telling me, sir, is that instead of giving millions of dollars in relief funds to poor countries and giving military support to our "allies", you would just rather have us sit back and watch numerous countries get screwed as seperate nations? If it weren't for the U.S., France would be goose-stepping right now, or at least they would have been for a long time after WWII. If it weren't for the U.S., WWII would have lasted much longer than it did. If it weren't for the U.S., places like South Korea and South Vietnam would have been screwed big time and overrun by communistic tyrants. If it weren't for the U.S., Kuwait and possibly Saudi Arabia would have been RAPED by Iraq.

I'm sick and tired of hearing people from other countries gripe and moan about how they hate the U.S., even though we voluntarily give millions upon millions of dollars to support our "allies" that do little more than degrade us and tell about how bad the U.S. sucks. The French do nothing but turn around and piss on our backs. The only country that shows even the slightest gratitude towards our generous efforts is England, and even they talk of how the U.S. are just a bunch of snobs that think they are better than everybody else.

If the U.S. thought they were better than everybody else, then why the hell do we help these countries in need? Do you ever see the snobby popular football captain or cheerleader talk to a loner or try to help anybody? HELL NO. If the U.S. thought they were better, we just wouldn't help ANYBODY, and personally I think that's just what we should do. If you don't want our help, fine, I say FUCK 'EM. We'll just sit back and not do shit to whatever happens in Israel or Iraq. We'll just let the Brits and the U.N. do all the work. You see, if we did do that, everybody would come crawling back to us, begging for help, offering to suck our dicks if we offered support. Gerard, STFU and learn to appreciate what the U.S. is trying to do for the world. Nobody likes Irishmen anyway biggrin: biggrin: .

Now, I will say that the U.S. is not entirely correct in just giving money to these countries for nothing in return. That does make us look snobby in a way. It's like if a Rich man gives $1000 to a homeless man, sure the homeless man is grateful, but he feels bad inside because he didn't have to do anything in return. I think the U.S. should make deals with these countries saying "If we help you, either in terms of financial aid or military aid, then you have to return the favor back, in anyway you choose to do so." This way, the needy country receives the help it needs, without feeling like shit, because they had to do something as well.

Actually, that was not our war to be fought, it was the South Vietnamese's war to be fought. We actually won that war, because we were merely trying to bring an end to communism, and today you can count all of the commie countries on one hand.

So what you are telling me, sir, is that instead of giving millions of dollars in relief funds to poor countries and giving military support to our "allies", you would just rather have us sit back and watch numerous countries get screwed as seperate nations? If it weren't for the U.S., France would be goose-stepping right now, or at least they would have been for a long time after WWII. If it weren't for the U.S., WWII would have lasted much longer than it did. If it weren't for the U.S., places like South Korea and South Vietnam would have been screwed big time and overrun by communistic tyrants. If it weren't for the U.S., Kuwait and possibly Saudi Arabia would have been RAPED by Iraq.

I'm sick and tired of hearing people from other countries gripe and moan about how they hate the U.S., even though we voluntarily give millions upon millions of dollars to support our "allies" that do little more than degrade us and tell about how bad the U.S. sucks. The French do nothing but turn around and piss on our backs. The only country that shows even the slightest gratitude towards our generous efforts is England, and even they talk of how the U.S. are just a bunch of snobs that think they are better than everybody else.

If the U.S. thought they were better than everybody else, then why the hell do we help these countries in need? Do you ever see the snobby popular football captain or cheerleader talk to a loner or try to help anybody? HELL NO. If the U.S. thought they were better, we just wouldn't help ANYBODY, and personally I think that's just what we should do. If you don't want our help, fine, I say FUCK 'EM. We'll just sit back and not do shit to whatever happens in Israel or Iraq. We'll just let the Brits and the U.N. do all the work. You see, if we did do that, everybody would come crawling back to us, begging for help, offering to suck our dicks if we offered support. Gerard, STFU and learn to appreciate what the U.S. is trying to do for the world. Nobody likes Irishmen anyway biggrin: biggrin: .

Now, I will say that the U.S. is not entirely correct in just giving money to these countries for nothing in return. That does make us look snobby in a way. It's like if a Rich man gives $1000 to a homeless man, sure the homeless man is grateful, but he feels bad inside because he didn't have to do anything in return. I think the U.S. should make deals with these countries saying "If we help you, either in terms of financial aid or military aid, then you have to return the favor back, in anyway you choose to do so." This way, the needy country receives the help it needs, without feeling like shit, because they had to do something as well.

Actually, that was not our war to be fought, it was the South Vietnamese's war to be fought. We actually won that war, because we were merely trying to bring an end to communism, and today you can count all of the commie countries on one hand.

heres a link http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/meria/jou ... 4n4a2.html
they spell it wrong too. and there are many other links that spell it like that. so dont flame me.

[quote="Founding_Law":0aabc]heres a link [url="http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/meria/journal/2000/issue4/jv4n4a2.html"]http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/meria/jou ... 4n4a2.html[/url]
they spell it wrong too. and there are many other links that spell it like that. so dont flame me.[/quote:0aabc]

It's ok, move on.

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":915db]So what you are telling me, sir, is that instead of giving millions of dollars in relief funds to poor countries and giving military support to our "allies", you would just rather have us sit back and watch numerous countries get screwed as seperate nations? If it weren't for the U.S., France would be goose-stepping right now, or at least they would have been for a long time after WWII. If it weren't for the U.S., WWII would have lasted much longer than it did. If it weren't for the U.S., places like South Korea and South Vietnam would have been screwed big time and overrun by communistic tyrants. If it weren't for the U.S., Kuwait and possibly Saudi Arabia would have been RAPED by Iraq.

I'm sick and tired of hearing people from other countries gripe and moan about how they hate the U.S., even though we voluntarily give millions upon millions of dollars to support our "allies" that do little more than degrade us and tell about how bad the U.S. sucks. The French do nothing but turn around and piss on our backs. The only country that shows even the slightest gratitude towards our generous efforts is England, and even they talk of how the U.S. are just a bunch of snobs that think they are better than everybody else.

If the U.S. thought they were better than everybody else, then why the hell do we help these countries in need? Do you ever see the snobby popular football captain or cheerleader talk to a loner or try to help anybody? HELL NO. If the U.S. thought they were better, we just wouldn't help ANYBODY, and personally I think that's just what we should do. If you don't want our help, fine, I say FUCK 'EM. We'll just sit back and not do shit to whatever happens in Israel or Iraq. We'll just let the Brits and the U.N. do all the work. You see, if we did do that, everybody would come crawling back to us, begging for help, offering to suck our dicks if we offered support. Gerard, STFU and learn to appreciate what the U.S. is trying to do for the world. Nobody likes Irishmen anyway biggrin: biggrin: .

Now, I will say that the U.S. is not entirely correct in just giving money to these countries for nothing in return. That does make us look snobby in a way. It's like if a Rich man gives $1000 to a homeless man, sure the homeless man is grateful, but he feels bad inside because he didn't have to do anything in return. I think the U.S. should make deals with these countries saying "If we help you, either in terms of financial aid or military aid, then you have to return the favor back, in anyway you choose to do so." This way, the needy country receives the help it needs, without feeling like shit, because they had to do something as well.

Actually, that was not our war to be fought, it was the South Vietnamese's war to be fought. We actually won that war, because we were merely trying to bring an end to communism, and today you can count all of the commie countries on one hand.[/quote:915db]

Thats exactly the type of attitude that fucks people off. "If it weren't for the U.S., France would be goose-stepping right now, or at least they would have been for a long time after WWII",

Yeah america won the war by themselves, noone else had a hand in it at all. I'll give you this much, when it comes to revisionist history you're way ahead of the pack.

As for your other little moronic tirade maybe if you hadn't got your sizable schnozz into middle east affairs in the first place the wtc incident probably would never have happened. And yeah all the other armys in the world are incompetant compared to americas. Funny they were fighting before america was even fucking discovered. You know what you need? another asswhooping like you got in vietnam to make you shut the fuck up.

[quote:1b526]So, I laugh as all hell when someone even THINKS about drawing a comparison between the United States and really ANY country or regime with Ecpassionist goals. It just shows the true bias and hypocrisy that really exists out there.[/quote:1b526]

At least someone laughed at my joke.

Just to clarify, and make sure you read my post carefully...It was a small joke, not worthy of such a large post in return....Infact, I now think it was quite pointless, because it turns out it wasn't as funny as I thought it was, but if you thought that I honestly believed what I was typing, then you must think I am a total moron, and I'm sorry that you must be privy to people of my status on this forum...But if you feel you must post something like that every time after somebody makes a joke that attacks the US, well then, you can just be the unhappy person that turns everything into an argument. I personally wouldn't like that label, but it seems to go down well with you....I haven't once heard a cheerpy post from you. You seem like a very depressed person, I'm sorry that you feel this way. Do you want to talk about it?

I'm sorry that I suck.

Here we go again... Us against them.... We(Americans) do not always do what right. We tend not to look at things with a worldview, but more of a selfishh veiw.

America is not perfect... but their is no place in the world I would rather live.


Except mabye a tropical island with my pick of women...

[quote="Low spark":f77d2]Here we go again... Us against them.... We(Americans) do not always do what right. We tend not to look at things with a worldview, but more of a selfishh veiw.

America is not perfect... but their is no place in the world I would rather live.


Except mabye a tropical island with my pick of women...[/quote:f77d2]

I don't have a problem with americans, ive a load of american relatives. What pisses me off is the "we = better than you" attitude that seems to run rampant. It just smacks of egomaniacs and overpatriotic headbangers.

My favourite example is the assumption that because america has a big military its automatically the best. Says who? prove its the best, without a fullscale war this can;t be proven so ego comes into play and because you live there its autocmatically the best. Then you get the retards that say "dude we won ww2". Yeah right and im sure the graves of the polish british russian australian and the rest of the allied soldiers that died are testament to the "fact" that america did in fact win ww2 itself. if you'r stupid enough to make a statement like that you may as well piss on the graves of those that fought and died for other countries.

Anyway fuck it this topics seriously pissing me off. mwah: