Yeah, but if you were in their shoes, you'd see it differently, I'm sure.

Nobody willingly acts like a cock all day every day.
It may seem like it to other people, but to them, they're just doing their own thing for reasons which everyone else doesn't know shit about.

This is why judging people to seriously is a stupid thing to do.
Sure, people piss ya off, everyone gets pissed off......But you have to regard the above when you're judging people based on one single aspect.

Exactly.

My ex is somewhat of a "goth", does that mean she's a bad person? No. Does that mean that when she's deppresed that it's for no reason? HELL NO, unless you guys think someone attacking you and trying to rape you is nothing to be upset about. You guys need to stop judging people without knowing them at all. Goths are not bad people, in fact, some of the nicest people I've ever met were goths.

[quote="redhawk_six":902b5]Exactly.

My ex is somewhat of a "goth", does that mean she's a bad person? No. Does that mean that when she's deppresed that it's for no reason? HELL NO, unless you guys think someone attacking you and trying to rape you is nothing to be upset about. You guys need to stop judging people without knowing them at all. Goths are not bad people, in fact, some of the nicest people I've ever met were goths.[/quote:902b5]

Yeah....Very true.

That made me think....

As I said before I cop flack for the whole HipHop-Head Shit....and I have to say, the small amount of other 'Real' HipHop-Heads that I've met myself, have been some of the coolest, most down to earth people I've ever met, I've always become good friends with them too.

Rock on!

You can say 'be tolerant of all others' as much as you'd like, but in the end it comes down to the individuals own personal experience of that group...

On the topic of Goths, the ones at my school did the following... just in the past 2 days mind you:

Kicked a crow that was lying on the ground, thinking it was dead. It was not, so they proceeded to throw rocks at it, jumping on it, and 'putting it out of its misery'. They then took the crows corpse, tore its wings off, and hung it up on a wall.

Now you may think that's bullshit, but it's true...

Now these 'individuals' had been talking about how much fun it would be to kill a puppy a few weeks ago, so when a little stray dog came sniffing on the school oval, again, they started throwing rocks at it, and hit it a few times. My friends and I rescued it, I swear they would have killed it if they could. So we took it to the vet, and it's being looked after.

So this being my personal experience of Goths, I can honestly say "Fuck 'em.".

I mean, it's sortof a case of returned servicemen never being able to forgive the Japanese for what happened to them during the war, we can all say "Ohhh, don't be offensive, Don't be racist". But those men went through hell, and that was their experience.

I'm glad most of you understand.

As for Harlen, most goths don't do that shit. Maybe those little high school bangers do, but thats not what goths are about.

I live my life just like any of you. Get up, go to work, come home, sleep. Once in a great while I'll go to a Satanist or Wiccan ritual for laughs. I find it hard to accually participate anymore, just doesn't please me. If my girl friend gets pregnent I'll probaly give up the goth look.

As for the faggots you think of 'goths' as, they need to grow up.

[quote="Harlen Maguire":3735f]You can say 'be tolerant of all others' as much as you'd like, but in the end it comes down to the individuals own personal experience of that group...

On the topic of Goths, the ones at my school did the following... just in the past 2 days mind you:

Kicked a crow that was lying on the ground, thinking it was dead. It was not, so they proceeded to throw rocks at it, jumping on it, and 'putting it out of its misery'. They then took the crows corpse, tore its wings off, and hung it up on a wall.

Now you may think that's bullshit, but it's true...

Now these 'individuals' had been talking about how much fun it would be to kill a puppy a few weeks ago, so when a little stray dog came sniffing on the school oval, again, they started throwing rocks at it, and hit it a few times. My friends and I rescued it, I swear they would have killed it if they could. So we took it to the vet, and it's being looked after.

So this being my personal experience of Goths, I can honestly say "Fuck 'em.".

I mean, it's sortof a case of returned servicemen never being able to forgive the Japanese for what happened to them during the war, we can all say "Ohhh, don't be offensive, Don't be racist". But those men went through hell, and that was their experience.[/quote:3735f]

Yeah, but those people are just bad examples.

Are you going to let that small group of Psychoatic-Nutbars change your view on a huge group of people.....? That's like saying you automatically hate all Brazilian people because you met a group of them and they were pricks.

I've met a couple of goths and they seemed like nice enough people.