[quote="ED!":d9220]Well appearantly Joe from New York and BS from Hong Kong are super-duper good buddies, chit-chat all the time, and Joe rang ol BS up about the state of the site. So no.

I'm not giving anyone here that amount of credit.[/quote:d9220]

ROFL, joe rang badscript? I find that VERY hard to believe since when joe was trying to sell him equpiment for a new server he resorted to emails and private messages.

[quote=Gerv5500]ROFL, joe rang badscript? I find that VERY hard to believe since when joe was trying to sell him equpiment for a new server he resorted to emails and private messages.[/quote:debcb]

Who knows - Joe wont ever give it to you straight so fugg it.

[quote="ED!":b1132]Zoner I think had the same happen to him. You're pulled in two directions from two different sites with two different styles to them. Not suprisingly he chose the style he has more "loyalty" (?) to. And that's fine. But again, this rankled the natives and those who slugged it out in the gutters of OT before he became admin. You can call that a petty response if you want, but to just dismiss complaints against mods as "jealousy" or 'hatred' - gimme a break. That shows a weakness in leadership to do so.[/quote:b1132]

I'm not sure I get your meaning, but I will say this: I tried to do the admin job the best way I saw fit. I tried to conduct myself with honesty, integrity, and common sense. A couple of threads arose when people had problems with the way I was doing the job. What did I do? I posted a sincere message asking peoples' suggestions as to how I could do my job better. You know what response I got? I got something along the lines of this:

"OMFG!!11 make me a mod!!"
"There are too many fucking mods!!11"
"STFU cock purse!"
"Anyone play Vice City yet? It roxX0rz!"

So, naturally, I decided to continue doing things the way I thought I should do them.

My affiliation with AAN never once affected the way I admined this site. Not once. They never pressured me to do or say anything with regards to my actions as an aa.com admin. It was never even an issue.

[quote:2ec16]And yanno what - it's funny, some people cant see beyond this place. What exactly should we HELP people with Rude. I see that come a lot from you. What exactly would you recommend we "vets" (constantly in quotes - gg) do to lend a helping hand. Who comes to OTBS in need of assistance? How many tech threads have there been that have been answered and quickly forgotten? [/quote:2ec16]

This site is not an OTBS site, it's an MOH site. I know MOH is not what is use to be but with MOH:B and MOH:PA , things could get hopping again.

When I say help people out you can do one of two things.

1 answer their questions with an intelligent reply

2 don't answer at all. Leave the smart ass comment at the door.


[quote:2ec16]If anyone HONESTLY thinks the loud-mouthed behavior of a few individuals can deter an entire forum - not just OT but an ENTIRE message board - then you all are giving us more credit in one area, that you dont want to seem to give in others. [/quote:2ec16]

Exactly my point. a few load mouthed individuals make some noise and the noobs join in. Thinking they will be excepted. It's time these individuals relies what they are going and stop. This is what is out of control.


[quote:2ec16]And why the hell SHOULD anyone here lend a helping hand or even try to set an example - theres no support from the admins or mods to do so. Noone says - hey good job on curbing this, or getting rid of that person. All we see are locked threads because, golly, someone just didn't like the topic. Yea. Ok. Sorry if Twizzlers arent interesting to YOU. [/quote:2ec16]

When has any mod had a chance to do this? If a mod tried to lock a post you get 100 "vets" bitching in other threads, that a mod locked my thread about " gays " in the MOH section ( this is just an example )

[quote:2ec16]But you know all this is runnig around in circles to the main obvious point - a few guys cannot, and HAVE NOT derailed this place. That's bullshit. BULL FUCKING SHIT [/quote:2ec16]

Yes a few guys did this. and the noobs wanted to be respected by the outspocken few.

[quote:2ec16]Badscript left. With BS gone, and admins with noone to answer to, things started to get out of control. Members signed up, posted once left; idiots came, got flamed, started more flames, create more imbalance[/quote:2ec16].

Guess what, BS was in contact with the mods. Just didn't post on the boards. however this was a while ago and since then has not been around.


[quote:2ec16]Joe lied. And if he didn't outright lie, then he acted with impetus at the perceived actions of guys he already had beef with. His heart was not in the game, yet instead of stepping aside and allowing new admin to take his place, he simply goes on a sabbatical - yet remaining admin. Of course he has a job when he comes back - which is more than the Wook or the Spooge got. [/quote:2ec16]

OK, this is a he said, he said ( god only knows what would happen if I put he said, she said LOL ). Let's see we have one person who has helped others (JOE ) and someone else with two middle fingers up in the air in his sig. I'll take joes side on this, sorry.

[quote:2ec16]You can call that a petty response if you want, but to just dismiss complaints against mods as "jealousy" or 'hatred' - gimme a break. That shows a weakness in leadership to do so. [/quote:2ec16]

Not if it's the truth. you have people who where bitter by someone being appointed a moderator. To me it shows weakness on the member of this forum to act like a child because he did not get picked.

One thing to set the record straight.

When BS came to me and asked who should be a moderator. I gave them several names.

Ed - yes ed you can all start breathing again.
Strik0r - yes strik0r
Joe - yes I submitted his name as well to BS and glad I did
Gerrard - I also submitted his name as well.

BS then took some time and looked at the posts, from the ones mentioned above. BS picked Joe because at that time joe was kicking ass in the forums helping others with MOH and guess what. This is a MOH site.


One last thing and sorry to go on like this. If I had a chance to to admin this site. I would pick these people to mod it. Everyone better sit down.


Bazzoka_joe
Zoner
Ed
Ydiss
Strik0r
Just to name a few.

I don't always agree with Ed and Stik0r but as much as they bitch about the forums I understand they are a big part of them. I also know how to look past or ignore some of there comments. I don't take them personally and most of you should not, but come on guys you need to know that a lot of the newer members will follow the loudest good or bad.


I also hope everyone understands that many things are said because of how they feel towards aa.com this goes for Joe, Ed, strik0r and myself . Just don't take them personally. We can all make a difference with or without moderators / admins.

Just show some respect even if you don't like a person. The respect could simply be not replying to a post.

Sorry for all the quotes as well.
Sorry for all the quotes as well.

All this is proving is how big of nerds we all are.

heh heh...agreed. biggrin:

So what's next...LAN party?

HAW HAW! Yup, and pocket protectors for ALL!

Here's the thing that I just cant wrap my head around - understandably this is a MOH site. That's what gets the folks in. But how in goodness name is OT STILL connected to MOH when it is just that. . .OT. That makes no sense to me. If someone wants to say - yanno what Off Topic should be this this this and this, and none of this - then fine some of us will curb our enthusiasm. As it is, some of the more "nonsensical" post are the funnest. Hell there was a post inciting a flame - but it was done in good intentions to ONLY have fun. Yet it was locked.

And yea, the n00bs hop on here and try to emulate the laid back style and irreverence of the "vets", but isn't it the mods job to step in and say - that's not accepted here, and dish out bans or whatnot? If our actions are incredibly horrible then by all means ban ban ban the man.

I think the problem is that the inflammatory attitude that is omnipresent in the Offtopic threads seeps out into the other sections of the forum that actually do deal with MoH topics.

This infects totally legitimate MoH threads and questions with useless flaming and general velcro-shoe mentality. It's kinda like a virus.

Ask the guys in the MMS section about this. They'll say that 99% of the posts there went into the shitter because some b00n thought it would be cool to show off and do some thread-wrecking cock swinging.

Offtopic does not equal anarchy. that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be fun. Personally, I loved the silly threads about Twizzlers and 80s hair bands. They'd get locked (by me anyway) once they got mired in inevitable flaming.

too many long fuckin post, good god, this thread is becoming a fucking book!!


i dont know what everyones problem is and i dont really care biggrin:
i come here for the drama and i stay for the mansehks

heh..sorry jibber. I'lll release the thread as a "Book on Tape" so you can listen to it when you go to bed.

ED's voice is gonna be performed by Gilbert Gottfried. I think Denis Leary is doing mine...but they might get that voice whore John Goodman again. biggrin:

Exactly, it IS like a virus because it spreads into the rest of the forum. It is well known my problem with the vets is because of this. Elitest mentality or ego problems or whatever you want to call it, it turns into a competition whenever someone new comes to the forums and tries to ask a question. As you may or may not notice I don't frequent the forum much, I have an average of a little over 1 post a day. I used to come here to help whenever I could but every thread I posted in was overshadowed by the constant flames from...big surprise, the spammers. This is a fustrating thing indeed and trying to fend off the negativity here with little to no support is a pain in the ass. So I just try to put the idiots in their place from time to time. It's fun watching them squirm.

LOL at ED's voice.

And in John Goodmans defense, he only does voices for characters that look like him.

Can I be Judy Dench? biggrin:

I'm a pretty big guy...John Goodman would be appropriate, even though he still outweighs me by about 200lbs.

Hey Rudedog, I'm surprised you actually came back to type at this forum. I tis amazing how useless this board has become, when I compare it to other forums I visit. The rudeness in here is unmatched. I am curious as to why you would come back here? I ask myself the same question...

long posts make me think, and i dont like that...it hurts on the inside

[quote="Old Reliable":93bad]Hey Rudedog, I'm surprised you actually came back to type at this forum. I tis amazing how useless this board has become, when I compare it to other forums I visit. The rudeness in here is unmatched. I am curious as to why you would come back here? I ask myself the same question...[/quote:93bad]


they always come back, no one can leave now.. this place is like crack!!

I still read and check up on her from day to day. I just hide my presence via my profile cool:

I still have feelings for the board and the aa.com community. I do not post news ( not that I could right now LOL ) and I have not posted anywhere else on the board with the exception of a follow up answer someone needed.


Like they say, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. .

gah, u got my stomach hurting im laughing so freakin hard

[quote=Gerv5500]ROFL, joe rang badscript? I find that VERY hard to believe since when joe was trying to sell him equpiment for a new server he resorted to emails and private messages.[/quote:59ce6]

And that was over 4 months ago, penis-wrinkle. What makes you think that I didn't get his number since then? BTW, he's not from Hong Kong, either.

[quote:25315]And that was over 4 months ago, penis-wrinkle. What makes you think that I didn't get his number since then? BTW, he's not from Hong Kong, either.[/quote:25315]

Sri Lanka? Uzbekistan? Uraguay?

Well, again, Rude is right. I think and want the same out of this website and it's members that he wants, but since I seem to be disliked here, my opinions seem not to be valid.

I dislike having to come to a site where I actually LIKE to help people when they are in a jam, and see them happy once someone gives them an answer out of it. The problem is, Offtopic is the Black Mountian in the Green Meadow. If the people who ruin this site were truly ruthless, they would post in every forum, without concern of it being Offtopic or not. But, they don't, which is a benefit, slightly.

The problem is people tend to read GD forums, see how people help one another, then want to browse other parts of the forums. They come to Offtopic and see:

-Someone get call an insanely vulgar word.
-Someone told to do something gay / sexual
-Someone is being flamed for an obvious question.

Wether or not the person deserved it, they shouldn't have to see endless bashing in one forum like this one. Yes Ed, you're right; this is Offtopic, and should be ANYTHING what-so-ever that is not MOH. Even still, this should be within boundaries. Random posts of poo, or a link to outwar, or even a video of my picture being pissed on by TEAMGOD, it's just shouldn't be in a forum where the general crowd is between the ages of 12 - 18.

If I wanted to sit back, have a good laugh, and not care about what I posted or talked about, the mIRC channel or even the "Vets" forums would be fine. They were made for a different crowd; the guys here who like to come, and just make each other laugh, even if it's vulgar or not.

Sorry if I'm typing so much, but I'm really just trying to show you guys that what you do in these forums may not be wrong for you, but for the younger crowd, it may be. I must have gotten close to 70 - 80 emails from parents who are glad they could have their child play MOH online without worrying about other peoples language (Chat Filter). I'm not looking for people to thank the admins and members here, but I like when new-comers come here and are glad they have a place to talk about MOH, not to be made fun of, or trashed.

Here's an example of what I mean, and I'm done:

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... p?t=167480

[quote:5ae5e]or even a video of my picture being pissed on by TEAMGOD[/quote:5ae5e]

I dare you to say even YOU didnt laugh at that.

[quote="ED!":f9a2a][quote:f9a2a]or even a video of my picture being pissed on by TEAMGOD[/quote:f9a2a]

I dare you to say even YOU didnt laugh at that.[/quote:f9a2a]

Honestly, I didn't. Instantly, I thought this guy had way too much time on his hands.

Modding my pic into hitler or whatever, sure that's photoshop or PSP. He actually took my pic, printed it, took a poo or a piss, whichever, recorded it, dumped it to his PC, uploaded it, and displayed it; all just to make fun of me. = Way to much time on hands.

[quote="ED!":a60c1][quote:a60c1]or even a video of my picture being pissed on by TEAMGOD[/quote:a60c1]

I dare you to say even YOU didnt laugh at that.[/quote:a60c1]

That was a good laugh, however people going to that trouble once again proves my nerd conspiracy.

I didnt ask to be a part of the takeover, i was picked. Id never want to mod this place because it would be too much of a pain in the ass, and id rather spend my time doing something else.

My anger towards joe comes from having to put up with his bullshit daily on the aa.com server and letting tons of shit slide because he was a "vet", or aa.com member, and i felt he should be treated differently. Then, i wasnt given the same treatment and band simply because i pissed him off. It has nothing to do with respect. I didnt respect joe then, and i sure as hell dont respect him now. Imo, he didnt do much to gain anyones respect with coming here and acting like a child with something everyone else didnt have.

If stepping up and voicing my opinion makes me a follower, then its something im not ashamed of. Id have to say not doing so would make me a coward. Whether or not the way i expressed my concern was acceptable to some people on this board is not something im much concerned with. This is a public forum ...

In all honesty, i dont much care who runs this place, i just wanna come here and have fun. imo joe and zoner kept us from doing that, vets and non-vets. And i also didnt agree with a lot of the things the other mods did either, banning sclass for one. Respecting the mods and pointing out when they are making things unbearable for others is not the same thing. If only one person complained it might be different, but there were plently that didnt like the way things were going, not just the "vets". Even joe himself posted in the mod private that he had abused his privelages.

So, im not sure what to think about your post rude. Some parts i agree with and some i do not, but its much different to be on the other side ?

Note AAN :
Having the fact that i was a aa.com admin and asked to uphold certain values while admining the server thrown in my face everytime i have something to say someone else doesnt like is getting a bit boring to me.

Just because i did what someone asked me to do doesnt mean thats who i am, like it or not.

Rude, really good post earlyer i totally agree, and to everyone who is a "VET" I have never liked most of you, I really hope BadScript gets this site up and running like it was when I first came to it. I havent been posting for a really long time BECAUSE the forums were so damn stupid, people would make sensless posts and then it would be locked, it made no sense....

But at the same time, you could have just given up the position, all you needed to do was go into you new administration profile, and de-mod yourself, but you didn't, even though you knew the position didn't come to you legit. That's the problem.

admin profile ? no idea what your talking about. i didnt use the mod privelage and didnt want to. if not knowing what the hell youre talking about doesnt show that im not sure what will.

Appearantly he thinks all of us were Admins. That and I modded his sig, and that as a WHOLE UNIT we conspired to overthrow the site.

Consequently, hes been in touch with Oliver Stone to tell his story.

Has anyone ever thought of what the outcome would be if AA.com were to reinstate the Vets forum of all those months (hell, even years) ago?

complaining won't get you anywhere

it will just encourage it to keep happening.

i dont understand why people get soo botherd by someone you dont even know

i hate joe....joe this....joe that...blaaahh blaahhh blaaahh
i said this before in one of the I HATE JOE threads, i have had no problems with joe and some people are making a big deal about nothing and other people are making a big deal about it too because someone else is..
and if i were joe i would stick around just to piss ya off little longer biggrin:
i dont think joes the problem, i think the person typing behind that computer you got is the problem.
i dont hate... i love, and with all the love i got im going to make this place the gayest place ever biggrin:


now with that said..... whos in for manshek's? ohh wait i promised Zoner first , whos after?

can't we just have a threesome...

i can tell you've never been banned

I was banned for about a week... it wasnt too bad

[quote="White Rabbit":19be7]i can tell you've never been banned[/quote:19be7]

i was banned from Pyro's pants once

No, no idea! I don't even know what an admin is! But somehow, magically, my sig changed. Hrm. . .very odd.