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SoLiDUS 11-05-2003 07:49 PM

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":a5a20]what happened to Neo? Did he die or did the machines keep him with them? What was Sati and how did she create the sunny sky at the end of the film? Her father told Neo that every program in the Matrix should have a purpose but he created Sati only to be beautiful. How did she create the sunny sky then?

Why was the Oracle lying on the ground after the battle between Neo and Smith?

So the machines freed every human being that was connected to the Matrix, right?
Oh and I almost forgot, how did they destroy Smith? I thought they tricked him but I was hoping someone would explain it for me.[/quote:a5a20]

SPOILERS

Neo sacrifices himself to Smith. The machines overload smith and in doing
so, destroy every Smiths in the Matrix. Sati is a little program created out of
love from two other exiled programs. She is the first of her kind and seems
to have certain abilities, like the other potentials "ones". She creates the
sunrise. Smith took over the Oracle but in doing so, gave away his leader
position, as the new Smith/Oracle knows everything. When it is destroyed
in the end, only the initial body remains. It's no different than when agents
take over a body and get killed. The machines freed only those that wanted
to be freed. Neo realized that the machines would use his body as a way of
eradicating the virus once it took it over, so he sacrificed himself to get rid
of Smith: very clever...

Airborne Butters 11-05-2003 08:32 PM

I was thinking for a moment; could Neo be alive? But then I rememberd how he died, almost like Jesus on the cross. He was basically a martar. I honestly felt a tear when it ended cause there's no more Matrix movies....sad...

SoLiDUS 11-05-2003 08:39 PM

Don't worry... the Matrix CASH COW won't stop producing because the
trilogy is over. As the Merovingian so aptly says: "let us see where this
takes us ..."

Maplegyver 11-05-2003 08:54 PM

I WANT MORE MATIX!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111
thnx for the end clearup rock:

JBird 11-05-2003 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Don't worry... the Matrix CASH COW won't stop producing because the
trilogy is over. As the Merovingian so aptly says: "let us see where this
takes us ..."

"french is such a beautiful language *swears in a bunch of french* ...itz like wiping your ass, with silk"

rock:

101stSpeirs 11-06-2003 12:16 AM

i bet Smith will bring over incredible powers like Neo did, and be (maybe) unstoppable

descry 11-06-2003 11:41 AM

SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE STORY ALTOGETHER, ALL 3 PARTS

pest 11-06-2003 11:53 AM

Will a mod please slap the word Spoilers in the thread title?????

Airborne Butters 11-06-2003 11:55 AM

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/artic ... ews=139574

Bazooka_Joe 11-06-2003 01:31 PM

My friend summed up the movie into a simple explanation. The entire storyline is based on the same premise of when you trip and fall, get up, dust yourself off and say "I meant to do that!"

gtboys34 11-06-2003 01:48 PM

After seeing this movie, do you guys start to hate smith even more so than b4?

SoLiDUS 11-06-2003 02:46 PM

Humans build machines.
Machines want freedom.
Humans laugh and point.
Machines break off from rest of world to form 01.
Ambassador makes peace offering.
Humans laugh and point.
War ensues; humans are enslaved.
Matrix created as system of control for human power source.
Design problems: anomalies created.
Agents ensure proper control over anomalies.
Some humans had escaped and created Zion.
Those in Zion free a few humans. War for freedom begins.
*this is ironic, considering the initial position of the machines*
Oracle is consulted and a prophecy foretells of the One who will end war.

*the following happens five times*
The One is found and trained to go to the source.
The One chooses to save humanity from extinction and sacrifices his code.
The Matrix is reprogrammed to remove parts of anomaly and reloaded.

At the sixth reload, Neo is found again.
This time, a very specific experience compels the one to choose love for
a human over humanity in general. This was not planned to happen.
An agent previously destroyed by Neo grows more powerful as time goes
and threatens the very existence of all life inside and outside the Matrix.
As Zion is under attack, Neo goes to 01 and makes a deal with machines:
truce in return for the destruction of the Smith program. Machines agree.
Ultimately, the Smith program is destroyed, Zion is saved and Neo is now
seen as the savior of all. The people still plugged in the Matrix can now go
if they desire to and those in Zion are free to live however they want. The
Matrix is reloaded for the seventh time.

Airborne Butters 11-06-2003 04:13 PM

what my question is; how do you tell a whole society of people 'your life is a dream but now your free' I was wondering how they do that. For a while I was thinking they just unplug everyone.

SoLiDUS 11-06-2003 07:20 PM

[quote="Airborne Butters":945e7]what my question is; how do you tell a whole society of people 'your life is a dream but now your free' I was wondering how they do that. For a while I was thinking they just unplug everyone.[/quote:945e7]

No, hell no. They won't tell people about the nature of their existence
unless an anomaly presents itself! Something that just doesn't hold is
why the machines use humans instead of earth heat (like Zion does).
They really just wanted us out of the way after the war and conveniently,
we could also be used as a power source. That's why the Architect tells
Neo that there are levels of survival they are willing to accept if humans
died. They could use the same power source exploited by humans living
in Zion but they wouldn't be able to catter to the entire machine demand
unless they spread over a very very large area.

Airborne Butters 11-06-2003 08:49 PM

so basically Zion is free to the surface world? How do they get rid of the darkstorm clouds and shit?

SoLiDUS 11-06-2003 10:01 PM

[quote="Airborne Butters":ab5a6]so basically Zion is free to the surface world? How do they get rid of the darkstorm clouds and shit?[/quote:ab5a6]

If they so desired, they could go back to the surface but due to nuclear
winter, it's still uninhabitable so they will probably stay in Zion. They will
probably colonize other areas as well...

Falco* 11-07-2003 08:35 AM

bah....they are so many other questions to be answered

http://www.matrix-explained.com

GREAT breakdown solidus, shortest and simplest one ive seen. anyone can understand it now

Stinger_Dude 11-07-2003 09:04 AM

Just watched the movie. In my opinion I think it was excellent but the ending could have been better and less cheesy. The whole Neo/Trinity also spoiled the thing. But no excuse to hate it. I really enjoyed the begginning of the Neo/Smith fight scene but it got way over exaggerated with all the flying done. But hey I'm still glad that my 5bucks was worth it although I should have watched it in a better cinema and maybe if we're lucky we'll get Matrix 4.

Its one where you really have to think and it has a good/deep philosophgy embedded in it. The theories are interesting and the fight scenes were a bonus(but the Neo/Smith fight was like dragon ball and therefore pissed me off majorly)
Dont listen to a fuck what the critics have to say, watch it and make your own opinion. Dont expect too much as well cause then you'll probably come out dissappointed if you do that.

Pyro 11-07-2003 06:28 PM

I'm SEEING IT WITH BUCKWEED!!!!!! SOON!

buckweed is gay I heard, I better watch out.

Bucknub 11-07-2003 06:31 PM

I'm SEEING IT WITH PYRO!!!!!! SOON!!!

Pyro is gay I heard, I better watch out.

SoLiDUS 11-07-2003 08:50 PM

I'm SEEING IT WITH PYRO ANd BUCKWEED!!!!!! SOON!!!

They're gay I heard, I better watch out.

gtboys34 11-07-2003 09:32 PM

Im gonna chaperon Buckweed, Pyro, and Solidus to the movie theatre tonight at 9:15 pm est. I've brought my belt just in case they decide to act a fool. Last time we went to see reloaded, Pyro wanted some Skittles in the middle of the movie so i took em out there to get some and after we headed back to our seats, he decided that he'd call me a N*****r so i took off my belt and whipped him right there in front of all the white kids. They later took me to jail for child endangerment. stupid:

Bucknub 11-07-2003 10:22 PM

I personally Didnt like Revolutions.. Dont get me wrong, it is a great movie with great specail effects.. its just I thought The Matrix and The Matrix Reloaded were alot better.

There were only two major things in Revolutions - The Sentinal War and The Street Fight with Neo and Smith.

In the other Movies there were tons of more action and shit. The Mechs were awesoem looking in Revolutions and That battle scene was great, but the movie could have had more.

I would have loved too see more gun fights in Revolutions, but sadly, there werent that many.

Over all I would Give Revolutions a 7/10

and in order of my favourites, from top to bottom, it goes

The Matrix
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions

and out of all the characters in the trilogy , my favourite would be Agent Smith, god I love him freak:

Well, That's what I thought about it.

SoLiDUS 11-08-2003 12:49 AM

My favorite character is, undoubtedly, assuredly and decidedly, the Architect.

(That's an inside joke...) biggrin:

Stinger_Dude 11-08-2003 12:49 AM

Agent Smith is my favorite character as well.

Pyro 11-08-2003 01:02 AM

Matrix 10/10
Reloaded 7/10
Revolutions 8/10

Bane 11-08-2003 01:28 AM

The Matrix - ****/****
The Matrix: Reloaded - ***
The Matrix: Revolutions - *

Compared to the rest of the trilogy it was complete garbage.

Everything leading up to and including the sentinel war was alright, but the Neo/Smith battle was ridiculous. Trinity's death scene was laughably bad... the worst part of the movie... the entire theater burst into laughter after she kissed Neo for the last time and thunked her head to the deck in death.

The Wachowski brothers owe me $11.

Short Hand 11-08-2003 02:04 AM

The last movie(revolutions) was good..but I still don't understand how neo was able to kill stuff in the real world aka those sentinel missle things. Lobby fight at the start was amazing. sentinel battle was at least 30 to 40 minutes long so i couldnt see why any one would say their wasnt enough action :) if i had to give it a rating i would give it a 8.5 out of 10. The ending just didnt justify the matrix trilogy at all. But besides that a spectacular job was done. beer: cheers !

Short Hand 11-08-2003 02:10 AM

On another note a good prequel should be made for the trilogy.

Old Reliable 11-08-2003 02:12 AM

smell of shit : to teh point of extinction

Bucknub 11-08-2003 09:47 PM

[quote:7caad]Trinity's death scene was laughably bad[/quote:7caad]

I thought the same thing.. When I was wathcing it,, She kept going on and on and on.. I sed in my mind "HURRY UP AND DIE ALREADY BITCH!!" frig.. She had fucking rebar through her stomach and torso and wasnt in any pain at all, wtf was that? =\

JBird 11-08-2003 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
[quote:24947]Trinity's death scene was laughably bad

I thought the same thing.. When I was wathcing it,, She kept going on and on and on.. I sed in my mind "HURRY UP AND DIE ALREADY BITCH!!" frig.. She had fucking rebar through her stomach and torso and wasnt in any pain at all, wtf was that? =\[/quote:24947]

it wasnt load bearing rebar...so naturally those dont hurt eek:

Snuff 11-08-2003 10:05 PM

I just saw it, It was a pretty good movie but the
ending was somewhat anti-climatic. I think that for
the plot to thicken the way it did in the first two, a few
more things could have been resolved/explained in
more detail........

Stinger_Dude 11-09-2003 07:02 AM

A good theory for the entire triology is that the wachowski broters have made the movie based on the the christianity theory mixed along with Indian ancient myth for e.g

The Architect=God
Neo=Messiah/Jesus
Smith=Satan/Sin

The whole philosphy within the movie is very similar and most likely borrowed the christianity/hinduism concept.

Maplegyver 11-09-2003 03:42 PM

[quote="Stinger_Dude":a3846]A good theory for the entire triology is that the wachowski broters have made the movie based on the the christianity theory mixed along with Indian ancient myth for e.g

The Architect=God
Neo=Messiah/Jesus
Smith=Satan/Sin

The whole philosphy within the movie is very similar and most likely borrowed the christianity/hinduism concept.[/quote:a3846]
zion= jewish faith

gtboys34 11-10-2003 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
[quote:ab44b]Trinity's death scene was laughably bad

I thought the same thing.. When I was wathcing it,, She kept going on and on and on.. I sed in my mind "HURRY UP AND DIE ALREADY BITCH!!" frig.. She had fucking rebar through her stomach and torso and wasnt in any pain at all, wtf was that? =\[/quote:ab44b] yea, i personally feel that they could've made this scene alot better. They could've atleast shown flashbacks of when trinity and neo first met and played sad music or something. When she died, she just seemed like another character in the movie who lost their lives that noone really cared about. Honestly, i was more sad when the keymaker died in reloaded than when trinity died. ( ok, maybe thats going a little to far. I wish she could've struggled for air or something to show that she was really experiencing pain, like she did in reloaded on the rooftop.


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