[quote="Old Reliable":1d357][quote=Madmartagen]LMAO, yeah right, Michael Moore is a fat piece of shit. Larry Flint, is different, I think Larry Flint did more than Michael Moore ever did.[/quote:1d357]

he makes great entertainment value and brings more popular involvement in political critiquing. whats wrong with that?[/quote:1d357]

nothing, i just think larry flint did more. michael moore hasnt done anything.

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[quote="mr.miyagi":d3f6e]Well tonight is not a good night coz im tired as fuck but during the whole thing he's constantly streaming off lists of gun laws, crime rates, various historical events and details all providing the relevant stuff to present his argument.[/quote:d3f6e]

This is no new news. America is a violent place, mistrusting place. People come here from all over the world and because there is no singular American "ideal" to live up to they fall back on their own teachings. Culture class. A black canadian would be viewed much more different than a white canadian.

[quote:d3f6e]Why does there have to be so many conpsiracies regarding his opinions on who is governing his country, there should always be people questioning what they're doing otherwise they'd get away with so much more stuff. He's trying to get people to see past all the governent's bullshit, he's trying to make a difference, why always be so angry and negative TGB?[/quote:d3f6e]

Theres a difference between "bringing up facts" and juxtaposing information next to each other to draw conclusions. Look at the line used to descirbe this movie:

[quote:d3f6e]Moore's controversial look at the 2001 terrorist attacks and President Bush's business involvement with Osama bin Laden's family.[/quote:d3f6e]

To the average viewer looking for ANYTHING to bash-Bush - "omg hes connected to Osama Bin Laden!!!"

Thats bullshit dangerous journalism right up there with the same propoganda used in WW2. The Bush family are oil men. Where does Oil come from? Saudi Arabia. Theres no way around that. At all. Terrorist come from Saudia A, along with the Bin Laden family. It's just something you have to deal with or guess what, the country is crippled. I wonder though how often Moore points out that Osama was disowned by his family YEARS ago, and has no contact with them whatsoever. I wonder if Moore points out the OTHER oil-men who have connections with Saudi oil-families and accusses them indirectly of supporting terrorism to earn a buck. I wonder if Moore lists the glaring number of Patriot Act abuses that have been used so far since obviously crippling civil liberties is part of Bush Co's plans (which is strange since Moores still alive, and talking about all these grievances - that secret police must be doing a shitty job).

People take this shit as fact. Sure theres truth to the things he says, but its all in how presents it, how its spliced together that forces folks to accept his shit as COMBINED fact. Thats the problem. People are instead of being told what to think by the Big Bad President, are being told what to think by a confirmed vicious anti-Bush-Man with an agenda.

when ever your down you babble on to much. Just admit it he is interesting to watch cracka.

[quote="Short Hand":20690][quote="Garry Coleman":20690]::to God:: "God, why did you plague the internet with liberals? What did the internet ever do to you?!"[/quote:20690]

Without us you would have a Society unjust and cruel. Social Justice isn't generated by Conservative's empathy if you hadn't noticed.[/quote:20690]

the way janet reno handled the branch dividians in waco and the kid fleeing from cuba was very just and completely uncruel [/sarcasm] i think the beheading of nick berg was pretty unjust and cruel but i didnt hear many liberals being outraged about that because they were too busy crying abu ghraib

ffs Democrats are not Liberals by my standard. So no. and the whole Nick Berg thing the more I think about it feels so fake. We do out cry for him" What gives you this insane idea we don't ? pull something with some sass in it befroe you talk.

[quote=Chappy][quote="Short Hand":a4470]Without us you would have a Society unjust and cruel. Social Justice isn't generated by Conservative's empathy if you hadn't noticed.[/quote:a4470]

the way janet reno handled the branch dividians in waco and the kid fleeing from cuba was very just and completely uncruel [/sarcasm] i think the beheading of nick berg was pretty unjust and cruel but i didnt hear many liberals being outraged about that because they were too busy crying abu ghraib[/quote:a4470]

wtf, everyone was outraged over his beheading, where have you been? it was all over the tv and papers.

[quote="Short Hand":a226f]ffs Democrats are not Liberals by my standard. So no. and the whole Nick Berg thing the more I think about it feels so fake. We do out cry for him" What gives you this insane idea we don't ? pull something with some sass in it befroe you talk.[/quote:a226f]

so being liberal allows one to be suspicious of the single most brutal act put on tape? justice is spoken by liberals when it suits their purpose but something like the berg tape must have been faked. when i buy tickets to that amusement park you live in maybe ill find some of that "sass" you speak of.

as far as moore goes, he's a hack filmmaker who fudges facts in order to sell his point

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i love the people saying his first amendment rights are being violated because they wont show his movie when only the government can violate the first amendment...movie companies have every right not to buy rights to show the movie if they don't want to

I hope that fat fucker dies while pretending hes controversial.

I like some of Michael Moore's films, however i'm not a fan of Bowling for Columbine. Its views on gun control and such a pure garbage and doesn't portray the common man as being responsible. However, the film "Roger & Me" is a great film and everyone should go out and rent it. Liberals are fine; conservatives are fine. Its when the two start blubbering like idiots about there own needs and don't find a happy/medium or a comprise.

here's how the movie is going to be...bet you any money.


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rofl

yeah, i had to laugh myself. The video editors did a pretty nice job the_finger: