Rims arent too bad on cars. My sister has rims on her cav, they're not ricey or anything, she just got mad her hubcaps kept flying out when she would turn biggrin:

some of those cars looked pretty cool.

I like to point and laugh at these guys on the road. They get so mad. None of them can keep up with my stock Dakota. That pisses them off even more. Ricers suck the big one. Hahahaha, tehehe.

Yeah but Johnj, it's all about sub-woofer capability.... cool:

oww. my fucking eye you prick.

+ let the japenses build a muscle v8 of their own, it would eat the living shit out of anything. THey just haven't done it yet. In japan their is a unwritten rule between the major auto makers, no car built with more then 276 HP stock, although it is done with a few. All im saying is if the japenese ever built muscle, it would own the lving shit out of every AMerican muscle car out.

[quote="Eight Ace":8b2f6]Yeah but Johnj, it's all about sub-woofer capability.... cool:[/quote:8b2f6]
sub"-"woofer? dance:

[quote="Short Hand":816bf]+ let the japenses build a muscle v8 of their own, it would eat the living shit out of anything. THey just haven't done it yet. In japan their is a unwritten rule between the major auto makers, no car built with more then 276 HP stock, although it is done with a few. All im saying is if the japenese ever built muscle, it would own the lving shit out of every AMerican muscle car out.[/quote:816bf]

Look at the V8 in Jap trucks. They are small, high revving low torque low horsepower engines. exactly what you dont want for a truck that youre going to tow with. Do you know why chevy still uses OHV engines in their trucks and faster cars? Because theyve been kicking ass since the 50's.

Yenk 427 Camaro, LS6 Chevelle 454, Dodge hemi>cavalier with a big wing and a cold air intake, honda with 20,000 in entertainment

Sure they get arond 8 mpg, but they look damn good doing it

Toyota Tundra v8
Horsepower 240-hp @ 4,800 rpm
Torque 315 lbs.-ft. @ 3,400 rpm
# of valves 32
Fuel economy city 15 mpg
Fuel economy highway 18 mpg
Fuel tank capacity 26 gal.

Nissan Titan
Horsepower 305-hp @ 4,900 rpm
Torque 379 lbs.-ft. @ 3,600 rpm
# of valves 32
Fuel economy city 14 mpg
Fuel economy highway 18 mpg
Fuel tank capacity 28 gal.

And since those are the Japanese top engine choices now lets see chevy

Engine liters 8.1
Cylinder configuration V-8
Horsepower 330-hp @ 4,200 rpm
Torque 450 lbs.-ft. @ 3,200 rpm
# of valves 16
Sequential MPI
Fuel type unleaded
Ignition type electronic
Engine orientation longitudinal

Engine liters 6.0
Cylinder configuration V-8
Horsepower 345-hp @ 5,200 rpm
Torque 380 lbs.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm
# of valves 16
Fuel economy city 13 mpg
Fuel economy highway 17 mpg
Fuel tank capacity 26 gal.

You're right short, Japanese V8s would kill american v8's with their design.

[quote:f4f03]Engine liters 8.1
Cylinder configuration V-8
Horsepower 330-hp @ 4,200 rpm
Torque 450 lbs.-ft. @ 3,200 rpm
# of valves 16
Sequential MPI
Fuel type unleaded
Ignition type electronic
Engine orientation longitudinal
[/quote:f4f03]

LOL @ chevy

5.7L hemi stats: 345 horsepower and 375 pound-feet of torque yet its 2.4L smaller.

now if you look at the biggest dodge engine, the 8.3L V10 That churns out a wopping 500 horsepower and 525 pound-feet of torque. Now thats serious power.

im talking about a performance car negine, not some truck engine. Japenese trucks suck shit. If you want a truck buy a fucking ford. If they built a real performance v8 i assure you it would rape any american muscle on the market. The fact is the Engine in the Skyline is pure perfection in engineering, while these truck engines are hastily readied and designed in comparision. Were not tlaking about trucks here, lets tlak about a performance car one. Which they haven'tbuilt yet so its really hard to say. But when they do I assure you it will shut your face up.

[quote="Short Hand":1c9dc]+ let the japenses build a muscle v8 of their own, it would eat the living shit out of anything. THey just haven't done it yet. In japan their is a unwritten rule between the major auto makers, no car built with more then 276 HP stock, although it is done with a few. All im saying is if the japenese ever built muscle, it would own the lving shit out of every AMerican muscle car out.[/quote:1c9dc]

There will never be a Japanese muscle car...1. Muscle cars stopped around 1973...2. Muscle cars are about putting BIG Naturally aspirated engines in relative cars, Ricers are putting BIG spoilers on small hatchbacks and putting Nitrous Oxide to raise horsepower for 3 second which can blow your engine, Nitrous Oxide is for pussies...3. Japanese cars don't have V8s and never will with all this environment shit going on you dumb shit

[quote=Efilnikufesin]There will never be a Japanese muscle car...1. Muscle cars stopped around 1973...2. Muscle cars are about putting BIG Naturally aspirated engines in relative cars, Ricers are putting BIG spoilers on small hatchbacks and putting Nitrous Oxide to raise horsepower for 3 second which can blow your engine, Nitrous Oxide is for pussies...3. Japanese cars don't have V8s and never will with all this environment shit going on you dumb shit[/quote:9c949]

Wow.. Ever heard of export or foreign markets?

Then again, who gives a flying fuck?

My 6 cylinder Ford Taurus family car has out raced many riced out hondas.

My 96 2.0L 125 Hp Ford Contour is sitting pretty in my driveway with driverside body damage and $15.99 hubcaps i got from target. Beat that bitches.

[quote="Mountaineer maniac":43e2d]My 96 2.0L 125 Hp Ford Contour is sitting pretty in my driveway with driverside body damage and $15.99 hubcaps i got from target. Beat that bitches.[/quote:43e2d]

hahah, did you spray paint the paint that scraped rock:

That guy laughing in the pic's has me rolling !! Funny dude.

As for rice, i only saw ONE car, ONE fucking rice car that i actually liked. To be honest, i couldn't tell you what make it was but it didn't have all those stupid ass body panels or worthless wings on it. It was very low-keyed without those bling bling rims and the best part about this car that made it stand out was..............it didn't sound like my fuckin' lawn mower. This car sounded throaty, almost like it had an 8 in it. All rice should've been modeled after this car.

Oh, wanna talk about funny? I passed a couple of "neon lighted" ricers at 110mph in a MINIVAN!! Those fuckers got beat by a soccer mom car...BUWAHAAHAHA !!

[quote=KTOG]hahah, did you spray paint the paint that scraped rock:[/quote:2d669]

No i just got it really dirty to cover up the bare spots.

my friends famlie used to own an olds stationwagon with a 305 v8 in it. I guess when going down the 401 they would get too see all the pissed off bmw drivers sit there & watch as a station wagon passed them doing 165kmh because all the BMWs were limited at 160kmh by the governors. I can only imagine the look on their faces.

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":5503a][quote:5503a]Engine liters 8.1
Cylinder configuration V-8
Horsepower 330-hp @ 4,200 rpm
Torque 450 lbs.-ft. @ 3,200 rpm
# of valves 16
Sequential MPI
Fuel type unleaded
Ignition type electronic
Engine orientation longitudinal
[/quote:5503a]

LOL @ chevy

5.7L hemi stats: 345 horsepower and 375 pound-feet of torque yet its 2.4L smaller.

now if you look at the biggest dodge engine, the 8.3L V10 That churns out a wopping 500 horsepower and 525 pound-feet of torque. Now thats serious power.[/quote:5503a]

That thing isnt even a real hemi, it just stole the name, ask any mechanic. I couldnt drive a dodge, mainly because the trannys suck, they have horrible styling and always have been shit compared to chevy and ford. for 20 hp less I can drive a truck that will alst forever wont blow transmissions and doesnt look like a puffer fish. Oh and that engine has 75 less ft pounds of torque and as we all know when you tow you need the torque

Know what is funny? The z06 vette is .10 slower in the quarter mile then the fastest viper ever, despite having 95 hp less and around 75 ft pounds torque less. Know why? Engineering, chevys body is not only lighter, but it looks better and is more aerodynamic, not to mention the z06 runs for $53,000 and the viper is at least $93,000. The z06 also has a quieter ride and better gas mileage.

And btw short the muslce car era is over, your dumbass wouldnt even know what would constite a muscle car anyways. Muscle cars were dirt cheap, somewhat cheaply made cars with big engines to go fast. usually no fancy features and nothing special besides the engine, tranny and suspension.

fuck rice rockets

any of my family's various Mustang GTs or Harleys could crush those flimsy PoS fagbuckets into the ground.

but really, who wants to drive a vette? the only people you ever see driving them are older men who bought them because of a midlife crises. As for the hemi being real? who cares? if its a good engine its a good engine. Obviously some things would have to change because technology has changed since the 1950's.
[quote:fce3e]I couldnt drive a dodge[/quote:fce3e]
I never understood people who said this, I like dodge but il drive whatever suits my needs the best, if i needed to use a van to carry alot of stuff id use an astro because they are the best vans for that. if I were to do alot of comutting I would drive a hybrid honda. Right now What suits me is an easy to drive car thats easy to work on & gets fairly good gas milage. As much as I like dodge cars it would not kill me to drive anonther brand of cars. Their are things i like & dislike about every company, belive it or not its ok to like more than one company.

I'm a cart pusher at a Target and if I brought a camera around with me, I could probly get almost as many pics of ugly stuff within 6 months. It's crazy what people think is cool...

Who wants to drive a vette? Anyone that can afford one and is a bowtie person.

I have a lumina, why because its a nice little car and is cheap as hell to work on. all about preferances

+ my parents worked for gm a combined 60 years, Ive always ridden in GM cars and ive had nothing but fond memories of them. ive been in other cars by other manufactures and they just arnt as good as what i grew up with

Dude, most of those pics short posted would kick the shit out of most GT's and harleys.

jesus fucking christ. I have never heard as much whining and bitching baout cars. An no, Im sorry but unless you have 800hp to move your 3,000 lbs car you are not going ot be a 180hp+ bike that weights 400lbs. Simple power to weight ratios. The maine reason ricers look so bad is because they are owned by poor ass 18 year olds. They have the body kit and rims but they just cant afford to paint the body kit the right color. And as it may be a big block v8 in a muscle car will of course beat the living shit out of a stock 4cyl. Its nothing to brag about beating a litle 4 banger in your yanko. A v8 hooked up to a 4 or 5 spd stick with a solid rear axle holding an LSD in it is goign to crush a 4cyl car made to go the speed limit and get to the destination its goign to using as little fuel as possible. So stop bitching everyone likes their own type of cars. Some like muscle cars ,some like imports, some like domestics, some like trucks. It doesnt fucing matter what you think about how something looks, someone else might think it looks good.

sleeping:

Dont be so sure, i witnessed a blown out 69' stingray get walked by a civic hatch.

i was referring to the ones on the site, and most of the real cars wouldnt, most of those either have nitrous or are concept/show cars.

A GT.. from the shop can beat most sooooooped up ricerockets rolleyes:

yeah no shit lol, cause it comes with enough HP but take a car that comes with 130 to 300 and thats a big deal.

all im saying is that theyre better... which they are and you only proved it.

all you proved was that rice rockets blow and need work not to suck.

I would rather have a european car than a domestic car. Just not souped up or anything.

Yeah but they cost just as much money as a GT in the end, you just gotta do the work yourself. A 50.000 dollar sports car cant compare to a 15,000 economy car turned ricer. nag:

There is a difference between a ricer and a tuner, let us not forget. A ricer with a "rice rocket" only has strapped on parts... all show no go. A tuner may have strapped on parts, but has many engine mods and basically he knows what he is doing aka not a 17 year old. A tuner makes slow stock cars go really fast.

ricer = whhat you said

rice rockets = suped up ricers... like what i said.

im saying a 24k GT can beat a shitty 14k economy car w/ 10k worth of upgrades, dont know what your talking about w/ 50 grand

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":c7afd]Blah Blah blickity blah blah[/quote:c7afd]

Yeah but what if that ricer cant clear a tech 9 road in a class 3 lowrider? What if your class 47 truck cant roll over a series 4 rock? Think about this before you open your phase 3 peer mediator

If I had a choise I would not buy a dodge or a gmc or anything from north america. Instead I would prefer a
Lotus Elise http://www.siamcar.com/wallpaper/lotus/elise-3-800.jpeg

mercedes (yes i hate to say id actully want one but this one kicks ass) http://www.travisdart.com/misc/wallpaper/slr.jpg

Aston Martin DB9 http://www.thecarfanatics.com/images/as ... db9_01.jpg

I recomend to anyone who likes cars to try watching a british show called Top Gear. If you have never seen it you are relly missing out. It puts NA car shows such as car & driver to absolute shame, If you feel like trying it out I recomend you try the May 16th, 2004 episode of top gear, it should give you a basic idea of what the shows is about. Fairly big downloads (300mb) but by far worth it. this is the site that you download them from, it requires bit torrent to download the episodes http://gear.viper007bond.com/downloads.php

man all i care abourt in a car is if it has some pickup for getting on the highway and efficient gas mileage. fuck the rest

http://www.powertoyz.com/Videos/GopedTake2.wmv

dance:

[quote="Short Hand":4cdf0]im talking about a performance car negine, not some truck engine. Japenese trucks suck shit. If you want a truck buy a fucking ford. If they built a real performance v8 i assure you it would rape any american muscle on the market. The fact is the Engine in the Skyline is pure perfection in engineering, while these truck engines are hastily readied and designed in comparision. Were not tlaking about trucks here, lets tlak about a performance car one. Which they haven'tbuilt yet so its really hard to say. But when they do I assure you it will shut your face up.[/quote:4cdf0]

I was talking about muscle cars. And what kinda engines went in muscle cars? What kinda engines works well in trucks? The same. Large displacement which equal LOW end torque. My old truck (71 Chevy c-10[1/2 ton]) had a 402 ci v8 (the direct decendent of the 396). Modified extensively. It gave me about 450 ft-lbs of torque, all availible near the bottom end of the rpm range(about 2000rpms). That much torque being availible so low means you don't have to have fancy close-ratio transmissions. It means you don't have to keep the engine pegged to keep the speedo spinnin. And that means reliability.

Now all that was talking about a truck engine. True, but the fact is that those early muscle cars (1965-73) used truck engines. They were sometimes, (in the case of "sport" models like the SS, RS, and Boss) even MORE powerful and torquey. And if you wanted more, all you had to do was bolt on better headers, intake, carbs, ect... Hp is a number taken at the flywheel, it means next to nothing. What turns the rear ( Rear > Front) wheels is torque and how readily its availible.