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Mr.Buttocks 12-01-2004 08:16 PM

I want a Desert Eagle.

Hawke 12-01-2004 08:20 PM

[quote="Short Hand":c7bc2]
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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

You get a thrill out of using something designed to kill people ?[/quote:c7bc2]
It's not like I'm trying to go out and murder people. Anything could have made to kill people.


You play a game made about a war that killed millions. Is that any better?

Thank you and stfu.

rdeyes 12-01-2004 11:50 PM

cause in america its our right to bear arms, when they try to take the guns from american citizens , thats when assault rifles come in handy , and besides they sound really cool when you shoot them off biggrin:

Sgt>Stackem 12-02-2004 06:53 AM

handguns can be used for hunting, I do it . I use a .40 cal for bunnies and a .44 mag for bambi. I prefer the bow and arrow but guns work fine. So called assault rifles are a blast to shoot, shooting is a fun past time. try it!

As for the question about the cost of ammo, the SKS 0r AK47 both take 7.62x39 and they cost about $100 for 1000 rounds

Maplegyver 12-02-2004 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

YOUR 13 FUCKING YEARS OLD, KILL YOURSELF

Mr.Buttocks 12-02-2004 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by maple
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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

YOUR 13 FUCKING YEARS OLD, KILL YOURSELF


calmdown:

Hawke 12-02-2004 03:51 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":89bc3]handguns can be used for hunting, I do it . I use a .40 cal for bunnies and a .44 mag for bambi. I prefer the bow and arrow but guns work fine. So called assault rifles are a blast to shoot, shooting is a fun past time. try it!

As for the question about the cost of ammo, the SKS 0r AK47 both take 7.62x39 and they cost about $100 for 1000 rounds[/quote:89bc3]
I meant the Glock in particular. I know you can hunt with pistols, I have.

Sgt>Stackem 12-02-2004 06:03 PM

[quote=Hawke][quote="Sgt>Stackem":313e8]handguns can be used for hunting, I do it . I use a .40 cal for bunnies and a .44 mag for bambi. I prefer the bow and arrow but guns work fine. So called assault rifles are a blast to shoot, shooting is a fun past time. try it!

As for the question about the cost of ammo, the SKS 0r AK47 both take 7.62x39 and they cost about $100 for 1000 rounds[/quote]
I meant the Glock in particular. I know you can hunt with pistols, I have.[/quote:313e8]


I see no reason why a Glock is any different. If you want to see one person that hunts with his Glock poke around this website [url="http://www.tednugent.com/"]http://www.tednugent.com/[/url]

Short Hand 12-02-2004 06:27 PM

Nugent is a psycho.

Scalping Chief 12-02-2004 06:49 PM

They should make bullets 5000$ each.

Short Hand 12-02-2004 07:08 PM

[quote="Scalping Chief":b6943]They should make bullets 5000$ each.[/quote:b6943]

One of Chris Rock's funniest bits ever :).

Hawke 12-02-2004 08:24 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":b93d1]
I see no reason why a Glock is any different. If you want to see one person that hunts with his Glock poke around this website [url="http://www.tednugent.com/"]http://www.tednugent.com/[/url][/quote:b93d1]
There is a law against certain caliber pistols you can hunt with here in Ohio. I dunno about other places though. I would have to say because a Glock can be made/modified automatic very easily.

Sgt>Stackem 12-03-2004 08:41 AM

[quote=Hawke]
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Originally Posted by Sgt>Stackem":dcaff]
I see no reason why a Glock is any different. If you want to see one person that hunts with his Glock poke around this website [url="http://www.tednugent.com/
http://www.tednugent.com/[/url]

There is a law against certain caliber pistols you can hunt with here in Ohio. I dunno about other places though. I would have to say because a Glock can be made/modified automatic very easily.[/quote:dcaff]


they can but automatic weapons are very overrated. They are completely inaccurate. I will dig up the vid I saw of the Glock gone auto


its in this clip:
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/ ... _shoot.wmv

Duke_of_Ray 12-03-2004 09:40 AM

Outlawing guns will make no differance, people will always be able to get them.

pest 12-03-2004 01:15 PM

I used to think assault weapons should be outlawed, but hfter shooting a good number recreationaly, i have changed my mind. And after watching the anti-gun nuts systematically try to go after each and every kind of firearm available, I support fighting any type of restriction on guns tooth and nail.

Pyro 12-03-2004 01:17 PM

One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...

Sgt>Stackem 12-03-2004 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

Pyro 12-03-2004 01:46 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":02e98]
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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?[/quote:02e98]

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.

pest 12-03-2004 02:16 PM

[quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":866c6
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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.[/quote:866c6]

Someone got killed walking down the train tracks the other day. Maybe we should ban trains. Stupids trains are to blame.

bukdez 12-03-2004 02:21 PM

banning guns = stupid...
controlling guns = smart...

Sgt>Stackem 12-03-2004 03:07 PM

[quote=pest]
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":d878a
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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.

Someone got killed walking down the train tracks the other day. Maybe we should ban trains. Stupids trains are to blame.[/quote:d878a]


more people die in swimming pools than hunting, more people die on bikes than hunting, more people die in cars than hunting, more people dies from drugs than hunting....................................

Scalping Chief 12-03-2004 03:10 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":423ed][quote=pest]
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":423ed
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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.

Someone got killed walking down the train tracks the other day. Maybe we should ban trains. Stupids trains are to blame.[/quote:423ed]


more people die in swimming pools than hunting, more people die on bikes than hunting, more people die in cars than hunting, more people dies from drugs than hunting....................................[/quote:423ed]
yet smoking kills more people than anything else and they do nothing about that, and they cause all this shit about hunting.

Pick Axe 12-03-2004 04:38 PM

[quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":89c0f
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Originally Posted by Pyro
One bad apple hunter is enough to show that shit can happen...like that guy who shot all the other hunters. I don't know, but not all hunters are exactly expert marksman...what happnes if some little girl is walking in a forest with her dad and gets shot...


what if monkeys flew up your butt?

that has a lot less chance of happening in North America, than killings from stupid hunters.[/quote:89c0f]

Last year there were 4 people killed in Texas due to huntings accidents. 4, in the whole state of Texas, and a lot of people hunt in Texas. You say to outlaw guns because of those deaths, yet in 2002, 45 people died a day due to drunk driving related car wrecks. 45 a day. I don't hear you saying that alcohol should be outlawed. I'm not saying it is possible to outlaw alcohol, or that it should be, but you are biased in you crusade to protect the common people.

[quote="Short Hand":89c0f]
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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

You get a thrill out of using something designed to kill people ? It's not a fucking video game. THese things are for fucking wars, not for your fucking recreational use.[/quote:89c0f]

You ever go target shooting with a Bow and arrow? Ever picked up a replica sword and give it a swing? Ever played a trumpet? Ever shot off fireworks?

All of those things, yes even the trumpet (to rally troops), are derived from weapons and tools of war, just like guns.

And, if I take what You are saying literally, you're only supposed to use an assault rifle to kill people? You can't use it in another, safe way for recreation? Hmm...

[quote="Short Hand":89c0f]ummm. So you are tryig to get them out of the hands of Arabs thousands of miles away, yet place them in the hands of millions of white people(majority) in America....[/quote:89c0f]

No, those terroists have automatic weapons, rocket propelled grenades, ect. things that are outlawed. Just because it is an assault rifle, that does not mean that it shots fully automatic. Which leads to an unanswered question:

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Originally Posted by Hawke
okay...


Well like Axe said, what do you consider an assault rifle?

imwithstupid:

Maplegyver 12-03-2004 05:07 PM

An assault weapon. a gun designed for military and law enforcement use, lets see what the dictionary says.




Assault rifle

n : any of the automatic rifles or semiautomatic rifles with large magazines designed for military use [syn: assault gun]

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:28 PM

Accorindg to [url=http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html:4da6b]this[/url:4da6b], non-military style semi-automatic firearms are just as powerful military-style semi-automatic firearms.


Heres another thing:
[quote:4da6b]In fact most assault weapons are less powerful than hunting rifles.[/quote:4da6b]

Another:
[quote:4da6b]Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes. It is estimated that from one to seven percent of all homicides are committed with assault weapons (rifles of any type are involved in three to four percent of all homicides). However a higher percentage are used in police homicides, roughly ten percent. (There has been no consistent trend in this rate from 1978 through 1996.) Between 1992 and 1996 less than 4% of mass murders, committed with guns, involved assault weapons. (Our deadliest mass murders have either involved arson or bombs.)[/quote:4da6b]

[quote:4da6b]There are close to 4 million assault weapons in the U.S., which amounts to roughly 1.7% of the total gun stock.[/quote:4da6b]

[quote:4da6b]However, current "assault weapon" legislation defines certain semi-automatic weapons as "assault weapons.[/quote:4da6b]
Certain, not all.

[quote:4da6b]An example of assault weapon legislation is the Federal 1994 Crime Bill. The bill in part outlaws new civilian manufacture of certain semi-automatic assault weapons. It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:

A folding or telescoping stock
A pistol grip
A bayonet mount
A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
A grenade launcher.
(For the Crime Bill's definition of assault shotguns and pistols, a list of assault weapons, and further legal issues see Crime Bill FAQ.) [/quote:4da6b]

Plus there is much more.

You can hunt with some, but few, assault rifles. [AR-15 = .223 which you can hunt prarie dog] Which gives citizens a purpose to own them.

Also, if there is no need for a civilian to own a assault rifle, then there is no need for a civilian to own a glock, beretta ect. You can do just as much if not more with an assault rifle than a pistol.

Maplegyver 12-03-2004 05:35 PM

you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by maple
you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

TonyMontana 12-03-2004 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawke
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Originally Posted by maple
you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

10 posts a day can be accomplished in a span of 5 minutes

Hawke 12-03-2004 05:42 PM

But 6848 posts can't. [Unless you're Sclass]

Maplegyver 12-03-2004 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawke
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Originally Posted by maple
you have to much time on your heands. your 13 why do you care about owning a gun?

You have posted 6848 [10.01 posts per day] times and I have to much time on my hands?

I plan on owning guns in the future. I am just saying not every assault rifle is useless and meaningless.

thanks for checking me out

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:16 PM

Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Hawke 12-03-2004 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Yes but not all Assault Rifles are banned.

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawke
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

Yes but not all Assault Rifles are banned.

which is why i said you can't compare hunting animals to drugsm because one actually is illegal. Actually fine, if weed was legalized i would be ok with hunting being acceptable.

Hawke 12-03-2004 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

It may not be necessary but people like to do it. Which gives a reason why people would use an assault rifle.


I see what you are trying to say. There is absolutely no need which is true. But they can be used legally which is why people have them. [Prarie dog,practicing]

Pyro 12-03-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawke
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Hunting for sport isn't necessary, commuting on a train for work is. Drusg are ILLEGAL, i don't see how anyone can make an argument for ILLEGAL stuff, cuz techically they are banned. Hell in ontario you get more shit for smoking than shooting a gun with our laws.

It may not be necessary but people like to do it. Which gives a reason why people would use an assault rifle.


I see what you are trying to say. There is absolutely no need which is true. But they can be used legally which is why people have them. [Prarie dog,practicing]

but there are ways to do it...like joining the military, if you're so inclined to shoot guns, become a cop or join the military where it can have more use.

Short Hand 12-03-2004 07:21 PM

[quote=Hawke]
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":fc727
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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

You get a thrill out of using something designed to kill people ?

It's not like I'm trying to go out and murder people. Anything could have made to kill people.


You play a game made about a war that killed millions. Is that any better?

Thank you and stfu.[/quote:fc727]

A CD ROM, is not a lethal weapon, that comparision is horrible. Die.

Mr.Buttocks 12-03-2004 07:21 PM

GunsRcooL

Sgt>Stackem 12-03-2004 08:26 PM

Hawke +1

Hawke 12-03-2004 09:15 PM

[quote="Short Hand":1df64][quote=Hawke]
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":1df64
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Originally Posted by Hawke
They're just as fun as shooting a Glock. I've shot an AK-47, SKS and Glock and they are all equally fun. Once you fire off 30 from an AK, you'll change your mind.

You get a thrill out of using something designed to kill people ?

It's not like I'm trying to go out and murder people. Anything could have made to kill people.


You play a game made about a war that killed millions. Is that any better?

Thank you and stfu.[/quote:1df64]

A CD ROM, is not a lethal weapon, that comparision is horrible. Die.[/quote:1df64]
I am shooting a gun, as you say it "made to murder" but not actually murdering and in no way am pretending to kill a human.

You are playing a game with these terrible murderous weapons and pretending to kill people and virtually are.

If what I'm doing is bad then what you're doing is just as bad.

Hawke 12-03-2004 09:15 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":5deef]Hawke +1[/quote:5deef]
right back atcha bucko rock:


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