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antihero n: 1. A protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make him a hero. 2. A main character in a dramatic or narrative work who is characterized by a lack of traditional heroic qualities, such as idealism or courage.[/quote:dd222] [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antihero:dd222]antihero @ dictionary.com[/url:dd222][/quote:dd222] Erm... That pretty much sums up Macbeth.[/quote:dd222] exactly... |
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MacBeth has neither "idealism" or "courage" - his "strength" isnt derived from personal fortitude but his CONFIDENCE in the prophecies of the three witches. MacBeth is a villain. . .bottom line. As is his wife. >>A protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make him a hero. But they are still "heroes" - albeit not in the traditional sense. MacBeth does NOTHING heroic. Youre taking the definition far to plainly and literally. . .if this were the case EVERY villain would be an "anti-hero". . . |
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MacBeth has neither "idealism" or "courage" - his "strength" isnt derived from personal fortitude but his CONFIDENCE in the prophecies of the three witches. MacBeth is a villain. . .bottom line. As is his wife. >>A protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make him a hero. But they are still "heroes" - albeit not in the traditional sense. MacBeth does NOTHING heroic. Youre taking the definition far to plainly and literally. . .if this were the case EVERY villain would be an "anti-hero". . .[/quote:1f8a6] would Hamlet be a better example?... |
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MacBeth has neither "idealism" or "courage" - his "strength" isnt derived from personal fortitude but his CONFIDENCE in the prophecies of the three witches. MacBeth is a villain. . .bottom line. As is his wife. >>A protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make him a hero. But they are still "heroes" - albeit not in the traditional sense. MacBeth does NOTHING heroic. Youre taking the definition far to plainly and literally. . .if this were the case EVERY villain would be an "anti-hero". . .[/quote:6ef49] Was he not "somewhat good" at the start of the play, I am quite sure he was fighting on the good guys side while the 3 witches watched the battle in the opening of the play. Not to mention you see signs of remorse from him threwout the play, until evil consumes him. but, meh what ever. |
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MacBeth has neither "idealism" or "courage" - his "strength" isnt derived from personal fortitude but his CONFIDENCE in the prophecies of the three witches. MacBeth is a villain. . .bottom line. As is his wife. >>A protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make him a hero. But they are still "heroes" - albeit not in the traditional sense. MacBeth does NOTHING heroic. Youre taking the definition far to plainly and literally. . .if this were the case EVERY villain would be an "anti-hero". . .[/quote:0470b] Macbeth is a hero because he never gives up even when he is completely outnumbed and when all the predictions of his death came true. It gives the reader a sense of heroism because he always fights on. You're looking at this play far to linearly. There are no perfect heros or villians. If you read the play and weren't cheering for Macbath at the end even after all the horrible things he's done, then all Shakespeare's work was lost to you. |
TGB, you have to understand that when it comes to evil and shit, Akuma's word is golden.
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Alex from Final Destination is a good anti-hero |
Batman.
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It is like thinking everything Tripper would say about Rap is absolute truth and we should all believe his theories. Kinda like believing Hitler...and you see what happened because of that. |
wrong post to quote retard.
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...You lame, pathetic loser of a fuck. I should just call you whiney nerd. |
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i understood it .... but was still boring as fuck. |
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Why do you read everything as a negative...It was just the only example that came to my head at the moment dealing with that you know alot about rap and it is one of the most singled out things here as you're one of the only ones who do...unlike the othe rtopics that people kow about war and guns because that's alot of people and not just a tiny number. Fuck id of thought my comment was a compliment, only reason it has a sarcastic overtone was because I was addressing acid or whatever and not you. |
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HAMLETS a better example than MACBETH. HAMLETS not really heroic so much as he is justified in his desire for revenge. . .I mean we root for him because CLEARLY there are enemies around him, but hes the "hero" by virtue of circumstance - not really any actions hes done outside his need for vengeance.
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And lets not forget the whole sanctioned murder of an innocent family and of the King he supposedly loved. . . [quote:71213]There are no perfect heros or villians.[/quote:71213] Sure there are. . .just because someone has REDEEMING qualities (I'm sure HITLER was good for a joke every now and then), does not cancel out overwhelming evidence to suggest otherwise about their character. Quote:
To the END - MacBeth stays the course. . .why? Because he "knows" he cannot be beaten and because he is WEAK. He could move BACK to the side of righteousness, but that way is MORE DIFFICULT than the current path of murder and bloodshed he has embarked on. . .he HIMSELF recognizes the villiany of his actions - "I am in blood / Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er." He doesnt stop, and he makes every movement to ensure that his children ascend the throne (the murder of Banquo). He COULD attain salvation and penance for his actions, but he DOESNT. . . If thats heroic. . . |
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To top it off, someone posted directly after that saying something about how they thought I knew alot about rap. You never replied. You can't blame me for thinking that you were attempting to fault that view of my "knowledge" (which to be honest, really isn't as extensive as I get the idea people think it is), I got the idea that you were bitter about that and this was a subtle way to fuck with me....It's just too much like something you would do to deny. ...and the last thing I would think it would be is a compliment, I mean coming from you, we're not exactly very chummy.... P.S ShortHand - Die. |
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So - Hitler than (up until he offs himself) was a "her" because he never gave up and soldiered on? [/quote:43f97] Hitler was a woman???? |
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You fuck up x1000 more than him. It's just not funny when you try and point out others mistakes. |
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