As opposed to what if Gore was in power ??

Gore isn't great either, but he certainly has a reduced ignorance and stupidity.

Re: who do you guys hate the most
 

agreed.
also, royalty,
most MP's,
snobby people,
street racers/boy racers (i love to see nicely modded cars, but when they get driven like assholes it pisses me off, and bumps up our insurance)
some guy called Jamie who stole my ex.......also dislike my ex too now.
People who look down on you, when they havnt even looked at themselves.
Oasis
Peados, perverts, rapists, etc
and the Human rights activists who stop those criminals being treated badly.
Religous Preachers.- the place for god is in church, not at my front door :evil:

is it me or does bush not do anything besides make threats gold and take a vacation instead of WORKING LIKE HE SHOULD i mean come on you gotta do some work at least half the time not spend it all playing with your texas dick and golfing

i cant stand that dorky Harry Potter kid

im really sick of that little pepsi girl :roll: "ba ba ba ba...the joy of pepsi :roll: "

yes i agree with "bow wow" who are the geniuses who allowed the greenlight to the "Like Mike" motion picture (sad, just sad)

tk'ers and ppl with offensive names (these two are closely related)

people who disagree with you, who have know real valid point to argue on the subject

i will stop there :)

*oh yeah this whole pop music craze....man i was just getting used to having no new kids on the block then BAM now you got all those annoying n-sync (btw is it cool to not spell things right ? n-sync? isnt it in synch?)
oh man those boy bands really tick me off :roll: :roll:

Re: who do you guys hate the most
 

Now where they're concerned, HATE is definately the correct word to use.
^^^^I've edited in my opinions of each one.^^^^
The thing that depresses me to the limit these days is the music charts. The media controls too much of people's opinions and because people are generally too dumb to have real views and stances on what they believe could be possible with music and its popularity, they jus go and buy whats on the supermarkets music section shelves. If they were to just for once think to themselves 'is this really all thats out there?' and go and search a lil harder for different music they'd realise what they were missing.
Record companies i hate with a passion.
Have you ever been listening to an album and thought to yourself "why didn't they release this as a single?!!!? its way better than the one they did release", if alot of artists and real music lovers had the choice and chance to release the music they wanted to off albums, then i'm sure the world would be a better place! record companies only really release what they think to be commercially successful in the short term. thats why so much great music goes unlistened and pretty much forgotten.

why, why!! WHY!!! :cry:

All he can talk about is how Bush :roll: "stole" :roll: the election.

Re: who do you guys hate the most
 

[quote="Captain Bunny":27f22]
also, royalty,
Religous Preachers.- the place for god is in church, not at my front door :evil:[/quote:27f22]

Ohh yes. How I dislike the royals and organised religion.

[quote="Pfc.Green":5fbf1]
All he can talk about is how Bush :roll: "stole" :roll: the election.[/quote:5fbf1]

Maybe that's because he did...

Anyway, I see him out on the trail again. Admittedly I've never met the guy so maybe that is all he talks about. Either way, I'm not a fan of either, but Gore would certainly be my choice out of the two and at least he knows where Europe is.

hmm
 

well this is gonna be the only diffrent post here it seems
i basicly hate yaser araft and is corrupted regim i also hate most of the palastines but i can't blame them for being the ignorent fucks they are.

and yes i should know more then most of u about this saince i live in israel

Re: hmm
 

:roll: Go away.

[quote:a9d69]and yes i should know more then most of u about this saince i live in israel[/quote:a9d69]

lol. You should do stand-up.

wait u mean u acctuly don't bealive me? yes i do live in israel or maybe u "lol" beacue i said i should know more then u whice i have no response for that

and by the way did u acctuly take arafts side on this? he is no better then bin laden

I believe you are in Israel but that certainly doesn't mean you know what is going on better than the rest of us. In fact I'd be inclined to believe that you'd be very bias. I have mates there and I've heard of the propaganda crap fed to kids (on both sides).

[quote:e8581]and by the way did u acctuly take arafts side on this? he is no better then bin laden[/quote:e8581]

Arafat? I don't think so. Sharon, definately.

You're pointing fingers at the wrong Palestinians. There are certainly those who are "evil", but I don't believe Arafat is one of them. But I'm not going to get into an argument with you because you're initial post has already given me an inkling as to what this will burn down to.

My question is how do the palestines see you. And how do they feel about Sharon(sp?).

As for the rest of you arguing about Bush/Gore is a waste of time. Bush is the President, Gore was not elected would he been better, we will never know. It's no secret I don't care for Bush, but he is the President so I have to put up with him until the next election. As far as call him a stupid redneck, thats a little much, he may not be to bright, but Cheney, the one who is really in charge is smarter than a whip, and know how to get what he wants.

hmmm
 

well my inital post is what i think in todal but understand i don't bealive in anything like killing them or something like that i toddaly support palastines having a country
and araft is a terroist that is a fact before having leadership over the palastien ppl he was the leader of a terroist group who was call (ash"f)
and bealive my i know very well what is going on it's not like i am 3000 km away
i have tul carem (a palastinen city that had alot of terroist suiside attackes come out of it) 10 km from my home
and i have been to the army and my brother is in the army now
and my sister is military intlagence.
and by the way how is sharon a terroist (not that i support the crazy old ass) the sabra and shatila killing that append like 20 years ago was not israels responsiblty we didn't kill thoso ppl we just didn't stop it (we were too busy retreating from the labense lands)


well and how do the palastines see me? the educated palastines (how very little they are) don't really care they just live there life the rest of the palastines are bitter now cause they have no work (as soon as the terror started israel stoped letting palastines work in israel)
and they are fed with stories myth of things that never append or will ever appen israel is a democratic country sharon can't make choises alone arafat can make choises (not any more i bealive and so do alot of ppl that araft lost countol over the country now the hamas is in countrol)
so in short most palastines would be happy to see me dead and the americans dead too (u should of seen the partis in 11 in sep)
i have been to sevral bomings got hurt in a few i lost my hopes too a pecful ending (do u acctuly belive that if israel backs of out of the land there they will stop? they won't stop till the last jewish person as left all of israel and that is a fact)

Thanks for the reply reshef. Being far away from the Middle East give a different view of the situation there. But I think alot the Palestine population hate Israel and the U.S.

So my next question, is what do you think should be done, to change their opinion of our countries?

lol
 

well nice question
and rather immposible to answer for ameircans it's simple they will forget u sooner or later israel has somewhat a bigger problam something like 21 arab countris of a problam one thing for sure they ain't gonna let us live in peace anytime soon if it's not the palastines it's the lebanse if not the labanse the iran's if not the iran's the iraqis and i am sure some qute little know it all europ country like the swis will think we should leave too

poaac

Re: lol
 

Europe doesn't think you should "leave". Israel is there is stay, whether you agree with it have being formed in the first place or not. The problem is its current policy towards the Palestinians.

I would never support the destruction of Israel.

ok now were talking
 

well...
israel's policy to the palastines changed saince the start of the intifada only before the intifada 95% of all palastines worked in israel and made a good living (now they reacive approximly 250$ for 2 month per a family)
israel gave alot of money to the palastines bringing technoalgy and prosperaty to the gaza strip
it was a knowen to be a nice afternoon to go sit in a palastinen resturant eating arabs dishes and buying arab looking things for decoration until in the year 2000 2 israelis eating at a restrunt were taken away by 5 palastines in sky maskes and were shot in the town square after that no more israelis were allowed in.
and back to araft, araft supported the intifada saince he saw he was close to an aggremunt with the israelis (1 week before the intifada start israel as offerd 95% of the terrtoris the palastines asked for) he knew that if the palastinen ppl would go smarter richer happier they would no longer support his dead end regim . it's all over the papers now the the american and israeli intelgance now know that araft has 1,300,000,000$ and i didn't make mistake with the zeros think of that for a while and then come back

Re: ok now were talking
 

They want to be independent, not under Israeli control, so it is irrelevant as to whether "wealth" was brought to the area. And I strongly doubt there was equality. People rise up for a reason.

[quote:93f15]it was a knowen to be a nice afternoon to go sit in a palastinen resturant eating arabs dishes and buying arab looking things for decoration until in the year 2000 2 israelis eating at a restrunt were taken away by 5 palastines in sky maskes and were shot in the town square after that no more israelis were allowed in.[/quote:93f15]

Nice for who? Israelis maybe, but not for Palestinians. I'm sure they'd see it quite differently.

[quote:93f15]and back to araft, araft supported the intifada saince he saw he was close to an aggremunt with the israelis (1 week before the intifada start israel as offerd 95% of the terrtoris the palastines asked for) he knew that if the palastinen ppl would go smarter richer happier they would no longer support his dead end regim . it's all over the papers now the the american and israeli intelgance now know that araft has 1,300,000,000$ and i didn't make mistake with the zeros think of that for a while and then come back[/quote:93f15]

Can you provide a source for that?

Even if you are telling the truth, that's nothing compared to how much Israel gets from America in arms.

hmmm
 

well i don't normally read news online so i know from news papers i buy (israeli and internainoal alike) and i meant the whealth was brought there while discussing peace and a palastien country with out attacks but use comman seanse do u think that ppl who make money,have food,and will soon have a country will suppout groups like hamas and araft? (i know u think diffrently about araft but still) it makes sanse that hamas and all thoso groups would want to sabotage the peace process if there is no peace the hamas reacive funds from country and from araft how ever i can't prove that saince i see it in the israeli news papers that u say are full with propaganda

oh forgat to talk about what u said in israel reciving arms for the USA well look israel has once gave the palastines gun 33,000 rifles in number
to the palastines police after giving the rifles israel has backed out of all the terrtoirs while thinking the palastines will keep there word and not attack us we were wrong in sep 2000 while the intifnade broke out they pointed the rifles at us and should i remind u the americans give us weapons not only to deffend our self but also as a peace keeping force for example when israel blew up the iraqi nucler ractor in 1991 i belive in opertaion "opera"
the weapons we reacive is not a one side deal

Here's my list:

Employees in McDonald's commercials that are actually good looking
Barry Bonds
Blacks who make fun of whites even though we can't say a word about them
Environmentalists (basically alot of people in California) AKA Tree Huggers
Child Molestors(you can't walk down the street these days without getting picked up by some guy with a mustache and some 80's sunglasses)
Chris Rock (Racist comedian)
some more that i can't think of at the moment

Chris Rock is cool as hell, and Barry is the man

Re: hmmm
 

Well you admit yourself, your sources are Israeli. As for international papers, which ones are we talking about. Can you provide a source?

[quote:76bff]but use comman seanse do u think that ppl who make money,have food,and will soon have a country will suppout groups like hamas and araft? (i know u think diffrently about araft but still)[/quote:76bff]

If they have their country, no, you're right. Which begs the next question, why did they support it? It takes two to tango. I'm not suggesting either side here is innocent, but the Israeli response has certainly fuelled support for the bombers and reduced international support. You guys are a country, you have a governmental structure, are organised. You are expected to act within the laws of the international courts. Lowering yourselves to the levels of a few select Palestinians is not the way to go. And we're not just talking using tanks. Israel does alot more than that, for example it enjoys stealing all the Palestinian water supplies.

[quote:76bff] it makes sanse that hamas and all thoso groups would want to sabotage the peace process if there is no peace the hamas reacive funds from country and from araft how ever i can't prove that saince i see it in the israeli news papers that u say are full with propaganda[/quote:76bff]

Yes, you are right, but Hamas are not the general population and treating them as such is not the way to go about it.

[quote:76bff]oh forgat to talk about what u said in israel reciving arms for the USA well look israel has once gave the palastines gun 33,000 rifles in number
to the palastines police after giving the rifles israel has backed out of all the terrtoirs while thinking the palastines will keep there word and not attack us we were wrong in sep 2000 while the intifnade broke out they pointed the rifles at us and should i remind u the americans give us weapons not only to deffend our self but also as a peace keeping force for example when israel blew up the iraqi nucler ractor in 1991 i belive in opertaion "opera"
the weapons we reacive is not a one side deal[/quote:76bff]

I'm sorry, but it is. The Palestinians are legally not allowed to purchase arms, there is a blockade (although I'm sure it isn't followed it does make it harder for them to get convential weapons and fight a convential war, thus they resort to bombs). You can hardly compare the billions Israel receives from the US on the same level as the support the Palestinians get.

For every event you name against Israel I can probably name ten against Palestine.

-Willa Ford (she's the one people should call slut, not Britney)

-idiot ricers that spend 20,000 dollars to soup up their Honda Civic so that it still runs like a piece of crap

-Bow Wow (I dunno why, I just think he's stupid)

-Like somebody else said, arrogant black people that are racist

-Tom Daschle

-Phil Donnahue

-lots and lots of other people

Basically, I hate everybody :)

The McDonalds worker with a huge mole just like the one is Goldmember except she don't speak english heh j/k

Probably somebody really rich being a snob or an athlete with an attitude.

see now your overdoing it
 

ok now you are truely wrong the israeli response got stronger during the years but at the start we hardly did any response palastines murdered innocent civilens with there bombings while israel attacks only known terroists (yes i know there have been cases where israel killed civileins in accident) and another thing israel does not reacive billions and there are problames with that money too we can't just buy anything we need US approval and should i remind u that the palastines have alot of weapon israel catches alot of rifles all the time not too long ago the was a capturing if a palastines ship the KARIN A that was about to deliver tons of weapons we are talking about rifle,anti tank missle,anti air missles,mines, everything u can think of and if u are so sure the palastines are so deffance less would u tell me how did the blow up 2 israeli tanks? israel is known by it's tanks that are the most advansed in the world (that also makes us look bad) the palastines blew the turrets right off the tanks killing the crews inside

and i have read in the new york times about araft having that little fourtune it's known he is not passing money to the ppl common do me a favor do u acctuly belive the he can have all thoso cars and not have money do u acctuly belive his wife is living in france with out money?

and for the power israel is using in this belive me we are not using so much power if we really wanted to use power israel has the 3rd strongest air force around (suprized?) we would just blow up all parts of the citys and solve the problam

hamas has over 3 million supporters so yes we can treat them as general population but israel does not hunt down ever hamas supporter we hunt known terroists and we rather lock them up more then kill them


and now i have a few questions too how would u solve this
if we retreat right now from all areas they will just come and attack us we can't take that chanse we can't agree for the palastines request of letting all exiles come back to israel (they are over 11 million exailed palastinen they made allllot of children over 50 years as u can guess it's a fake ppl who never lived in israel nor there grandparents want to leave jorden and come here a country that has only 6 million civilens)

and another question look at america and the world look what append in afganistan the USA attacked with out cheking twice if they knew there were terroist in a villge they attack with carpet bomings and blew up the villge what do u have to say for that?

and u say we steal the palastine water? now your just saying nonseanse there is only one water source in the area a small sea called "kineret" and it is in the israeli lands not even the one the palastines want and we supply them with water we are the ones giving water to the palastines using out technoalgy out water sources our pipes our money to give water to basicly the enemy


i'll be waiting for your answer

Any rappers,dictators,racists ,Ben Asslick,Leonardo Decraprio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: see now your overdoing it
 

Ohh please. It goes without saying that the Israelis have been busy assaulting Palestinians, physically, economically and socially for god knows how long.

[quote:872b9]and i have read in the new york times about araft having that little fourtune it's known he is not passing money to the ppl common do me a favor do u acctuly belive the he can have all thoso cars and not have money do u acctuly belive his wife is living in france with out money?[/quote:872b9]

Stop avoiding my request. Provide a source. A link.

[quote:872b9]and for the power israel is using in this belive me we are not using so much power if we really wanted to use power israel has the 3rd strongest air force around (suprized?) we would just blow up all parts of the citys and solve the problam[/quote:872b9]

Which is what you're virtually doing now anyway.

[quote:872b9]hamas has over 3 million supporters so yes we can treat them as general population but israel does not hunt down ever hamas supporter we hunt known terroists and we rather lock them up more then kill them [/quote:872b9]

Ok, we'll use your logic. The Israel population supports the government that assaults the Palestinians. That makes them legitmate targets for the bombers. Fair?

[quote:872b9]and now i have a few questions too how would u solve this
if we retreat right now from all areas they will just come and attack us we can't take that chanse we can't agree for the palastines request of letting all exiles come back to israel (they are over 11 million exailed palastinen they made allllot of children over 50 years as u can guess it's a fake ppl who never lived in israel nor there grandparents want to leave jorden and come here a country that has only 6 million civilens)[/quote:872b9]

Territories you have no right to control. I didn't say I have all the answers, but a withdrawl is a good start. And stop building.

[quote:872b9]and another question look at america and the world look what append in afganistan the USA attacked with out cheking twice if they knew there were terroist in a villge they attack with carpet bomings and blew up the villge what do u have to say for that?[/quote:872b9]

I didn't and don't support the US action.

[quote:872b9]and u say we steal the palastine water? now your just saying nonseanse there is only one water source in the area a small sea called "kineret" and it is in the israeli lands not even the one the palastines want and we supply them with water we are the ones giving water to the palastines using out technoalgy out water sources our pipes our money to give water to basicly the enemy [/quote:872b9]

http://www.codoh.org/revisionist/comment/tr09water.html
http://www.caa.org.au/publications/brie ... ne-israel/
http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~wws401c/geography.html
In sum, Israel diverts 640 MCM/yr from the entire Jordan River basin. Syria diverts approximately 170 MCM/yr from the Yarmouk River, and Jordan receives 140-150 MCM/yr from the Yarmouk basin and 40 MCM/yr from the Lower Jordan. The West Bank does not receive any water from the Jordan basin.

Israel currently uses 93 percent of the annual recharge to the aquifer; Palestinians receive only about 17 percent of the water supply underlying West Bank territory and nothing from the Jordan River.


http://www.newint.org/issue199/facts.htm
Israel takes one-third of its water from the West Bank: 1.9 billion cubic metres annually. Palestinians in the West Bank have been prohibited from drilling wells without permission while over 17 new wells have been sunk to supply Israeli settlers.11

All pretty independent sources.

I can provide you with plenty of sources on this as I did a paper that linked into it about 3 years ago.

A few people already mentioned and some others to add to my list:

Chris Rock
Eminem
Leo Dicaprio
Kids who think its cool to do weed or any other illegal/underage thing
Kids who think its cool to have "bad attitude"
Kids who think eminem is cool
Adults who think eminem is cool
Girls who stand up for "girl power"
The people who stopped making Tiny Toon and Animaniacs cartoons
The people who invented teletubbies, bob the builder, and all the modern day kiddy rubbish.
Hollywood producers who give the impression all americans high school are full of hot cheerleaders, and hunky lacrosse/american footballers, that every high school day is sunny, and everyone owns a flash car.
Hollywood producers who never make films where America lose the vietnam war in a really bad way......they only make films where they win battles and then evac and maybe put up some text at the end over a black background about how the war ended.
Game companies that persistantly release unfished games and charge full price, very little tech support, and lose interest when so many people complain.

wait wait wait
 

don't talk about what the population supports right now there is a left wing person heading to the prime minister postion and ellection will appen in about 5 month
and lets go over somethings u said

i do not support living in thoso places from my side israel should retreat and leaving thoso ppl to fend for the self i didn't like risking my ass guarding some fucks who just had to live there

and do me a favor israel is not attacking the palstines phyicly only the terroists as i said i was in the army i had my orders and orders were allways "no civilens are to be hurt avoid all unnessercy killing" and econmicly they are hurt because we can't just let them work in our country u they bring in susiside attackers like that and the money the recive from the red cross and the US we never stoped the are still reaciving it only problam araft is not giving it away and i allready said that
and how are we attacking them sociely?
and i am not avoiding your request i am just don't read thing over the net and i do not know to use reliable sources so i can't bring u something thats not realible u seem to know your war around searce for it and u will find it
and about the water i tell u again if u don't know how the things go around here don't say anything israel is not stealing water it's the way things allways been here israel has one sea of safe to drink water that is fiiled by the rivars u said israel has once went to war becuse syria diverted the main river and by the way israel hardly survives with the water it has the "kinert" is 8 meters below the red line

and u cannot say things with out cheking the history of things

for example let me ask u something
all the palastine exailes did israel make them exailes? did we load them to trains and sent them away?
this will be a real test of what u know on the middle east crisis




due to the request of one person and the thoughts of other that i can sense stabbing in my neck i will no longer post about my peddy problams in this topic and will get back to the reall topic

i hate ppl like me that take over topics to do politics

Re: wait wait wait
 

reshaf,

All you've done so far is made some wild accusations with no evidence. I asked you for a source on Arafat, you've now decided to ignore me. I provided you evidence for Israel stealing water, you've ignored it and continued with your babbling. If you don't know how to debate, don't bother. Offer some valid links (not Israeli) and then we can talk. I want to see sources for:

Arafat
Israel water supplies

I also want to see something criticising what I've posted and not you making poorly thought out and clearly bias comments. Don't give me an excuse that you can't find it... that's just lame. Don't tell me to go and research it. It is your viewpoint, YOU find the eveidence. I've been kind enough to take some time out to present you with some and I find it insulting that you cannot be arsed. The internet is a rice source of information.

Finally, and no offense, but I can barely understand what you're saying. That is no attack on you, but it makes it difficult trying to reply. Your English is better than my Hebrew though.

one last post
 

well i see i must do one last post on the subject too

well my english spelling rather bad i admit i speck much better then i type sorry bout that

and also from my point of u i made vaild argument while you accused uncorreclty of israel attacking the palastines people and not only terroists a think that is completly incorrect if u want sources that much
look me up on icq 36933811
i will send a buddy of mine that messes around with the internet alot to look for it

Re: one last post
 

I didn't mean it as an insult, just that it presents a challenge to us communicating, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't quite get what you're saying. But like I said, your English is certainly better than my Hebrew. :)

[quote:3801c]and also from my point of u i made vaild argument while you accused uncorreclty of israel attacking the palastines people and not only terroists a think that is completly incorrect [/quote:3801c]

I'm not accusing. I'm sorry but it seems pretty damn clear to the world community (and even some Israelis - 50,000 were protesting in Israel two months ago) that the Israel is not waging a "legal" war.

[quote:3801c]if u want sources that much look me up on icq 36933811
i will send a buddy of mine that messes around with the internet alot to look for it [/quote:3801c]

Sadly I'm not an ICQ user, but I think you can access smy e-mail from here, or just PM me if you can't.

Lisa Riley :evil:
Every contestant who has been on big brother, especially jade ...eww...

my one true love.... my computer. its a love hate relationship

[quote:812ea]my one true love.... my computer. its a love hate relationship[/quote:812ea]
lol good one anti

People who think any music artist is cool, except OLP cuz they are cool

What happened to when kids grew up with Mr. Dressup, Mr. Rogers and that Fred Penner guy, we watched Sesame Street and watched Bugs Bunny

Now we have Teletubbies and Blue Clues (I want to KILL that guy with Blue on that show so MUCH)

and I forgot, Winnie the Pooh RULED

anyways......you think violence in video games and and adult type shows on TV will harm your little kids future.....these shows will fuck them up more

Watch Sopranos, and play SOF II and live a nice life