Im looking to get another computer because my current has just seen better days. Its units are no longer top of the line and need a new list of computer parts to get :ie video card, motherboard, processor etc etc. Price range isnt that big of a concern but wanna be realistic. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

If it was me and I was buying right now, I'd go with AMD. I know Gerv will tell us that Core 2 Duo kicks AMD's booty which is true however till the price gouging (180.00 processor cost 260.00) dies down I'd look at AMD. More than likely you'll see an improvement over what you have either way you go (AMD or Intel). So whit that said:

SLI Capable
Processor: AMD X2 3800 (skt AM2)
Motherboard Nvidia: Asus M2N-SLI Delux (Nvidia 570 SLI chipset)
Video Card: Nvidia 7600 GT
DDR2 800 RAM (Corsair, Mushkin, Patriot, G-Skill, OCZ)

Crossfire Capable
Processor: AMD X2 3800 (skt 939)
Motherboard ATI: Asus A8R32-MVP Delux (ATI XPRESS 3200 chipset)
Video Card: ATI x1800GTO
DDR 500 RAM (Corsair, Mushkin, Patriot, G-Skill, OCZ)

Both of these will need a newer power supply. If you're going cheap then look at the FSP supplies([url:a2d2b]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104954[/url:a2d2b]). If you can spend some cash then look at the PC Power and Cooling supplies ([url:a2d2b]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058+50009830&S ubcategory=58&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&m axPrice=[/url:a2d2b]). The Silverstone SST-ST56ZF ([url:a2d2b]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817163111[/url:a2d2b]) is great at the moderate price range

[url:69e6a]http://www.killdisk.com/[/url:69e6a]

With Conroe out and widely available on Monday you would have to be a complete fool to go with AMD at this time. The prices are not gouged at some places, some places they are. Just wait a few weeks and the prices will be normal.

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I'll stop now. happy:

Holy fuck!...LOL!

[quote="Mr_Gl@ss":4f980]If it was me and I was buying right now, I'd go with AMD. I know Gerv will tell us that Core 2 Duo kicks AMD's booty which is true however till the price gouging (180.00 processor cost 260.00) dies down I'd look at AMD. More than likely you'll see an improvement over what you have either way you go (AMD or Intel). So whit that said:

SLI Capable
Processor: AMD X2 3800 (skt AM2)
Motherboard Nvidia: Asus M2N-SLI Delux (Nvidia 570 SLI chipset)
Video Card: Nvidia 7600 GT
DDR2 800 RAM (Corsair, Mushkin, Patriot, G-Skill, OCZ)

Crossfire Capable
Processor: AMD X2 3800 (skt 939)
Motherboard ATI: Asus A8R32-MVP Delux (ATI XPRESS 3200 chipset)
Video Card: ATI x1800GTO
DDR 500 RAM (Corsair, Mushkin, Patriot, G-Skill, OCZ)

Both of these will need a newer power supply. If you're going cheap then look at the FSP supplies([url:4f980]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104954[/url:4f980]). If you can spend some cash then look at the PC Power and Cooling supplies ([url:4f980]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058+50009830&S ubcategory=58&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&m axPrice=[/url:4f980]). The Silverstone SST-ST56ZF ([url:4f980]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817163111[/url:4f980]) is great at the moderate price range[/quote:4f980]
thanks for the info man greatly appreciated beer:

My build is complete - just waiting for the CPU which is expected Thursday or Friday. biggrin:

LMFAO

Thats 100x better then bigdickmilla.jpg.

I used to have a prog on a disc I got with my HD which basicly writes 0's to the hd. It was Western Digital drive so their site maybe?

Other than that I doubt you can be as clean as possible but would suggest
doing a full format then going in and deleting the partions. it all depends on the work you want to put in.

http://www.killdisk.com/

free version on there is sufficient, i did it with an old laptop i sold a while back.

1337 thx all for the help +1

so when are you upgrading gerv?

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3727

Just received the new Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6600 2.4GHz CPU. Will be using it tonight and I'll post my results biggrin:

Specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
mushkin REDLINE 2GB DDR2 1000
ASUS X1900XTX
320GB Seagate + 160GB Seagate + 2xWD 10K Raptors
SB Audigy 2 ZS
ASUS Silver DVDRW x 2
ENERMAX Liberty 620W
Lian Li PC-60A
Dell 2005FPW 20"

not doing crossfire? and why do you need so much hard drive space?

Will do crossfire eventually. The other drives are from my old computer and they have shit on them, got that 320 gig for $90 so i jumped on it and its going to be the fresh hdd

Just to prove he has a bigger ePenis than all of us, Duh.

his dad had a little extra money to blow

Yes, the fact that I had used most of my other space proves that I got the other hard drive so my "e-penis" is bigger. Even though who the fuck gives a fuck about how much hard drive space someone else has? sleeping:

Porn


I'm still trying to find out whether or not my mobo supports Conroe.

what motherboard you got? what is the chipset? what socket?

Why'd you get an asus xtx? Those things generally cost quite a bit more for no real reason aside from a couple of shitty games no-one will ever play.

Good example, over here in the uk the x1900xt is selling for around £211 from sapphire, but the asus one is selling for £281.94. Retarded how they jack their price upto the hilt for something thats no different to any other version. annoy:

For conroe support you need an intel 775 mobo with the Intel 975X chipset. I THINK some 965 chipsets can also support it with a bios update.

Not for a good while, the x1950 is basically just a refresh, core speeds 650mhz like the x1900xtx but the ram is new gddr4 which can run a lot faster. I can see that card having supply problems, ddr4 is pretty new and hasn't been in production for all that long. Either way my crossfire setups not going anywhere for quite awhile, probably around r600 time.

ok so ive googled about but i cannot seem to find a straight answer so;


ive just got a free 250gb ide hard drive, now i already have a 200gb sata hd set up and i am wondering can you raid a sata and ide hard drives together?

I dont think you can raid them together, they have to be the same type

edit:ggnyck

So I decided I was going to rewire the comp sleve the wires and tidy up a bit...

BEFORE PICS:

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[img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1624/img0925sk0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1493/img0933dh4.jpg[/img]


AFTER PICS:

Here's me nearly finished sleeving the wires. Only 4 more hours to go!
[img]http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6586/img1056pz3.jpg[/img]

Me expressing my feelings for the project. I must say that this was the most frustrating experience i've ever had with my computer. Now that i've done it once I think I would do it again, and it would look even better, but man, sleeving this thing pissed me the fuck off. I was ready to punch someone in the fucking face afterwords. Yes, I had all the tools, but I guess it was just inexperience at the task since i've never done it before. next time i'll know better. Getting the stuff back through the hole was a fucking pain in the ass.
[img]http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3170/img1062am5.jpg[/img]

Took everything out because i'm gonna drill some holes to route some of the wires behind the case:
[img]http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9824/img1066hd0.jpg[/img]

Holes drilled, and wires routed. Now I know why I need a motherboard tray:
[img]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4315/img1068sz8.jpg[/img]

Put everything back and hook it up. Looks pretty good to me eh?
[img]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2612/img1076yn0.jpg[/img]

Decided to get rid of the shitty round cables and try some cable folding. Got some double sided tape and I think it looks pretty slick, kinda looks shitty in the pic though:
[img]http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7721/img1104xk9.jpg[/img]

PSU in, looks alright, although I would like it a bit cleaner. I think that maybe if I were to do it again, I would route ALL the wires behind the board, but I don't think this case has enough room behind. It's pretty tight back there. Molexes barley fit:
[img]http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6374/img1114dw6.jpg[/img]


Wires behind the mobo. Fan controller up top so thats where all those wires are going into that bay. You can see the molexes. If I were to route everything back there I would have to take off all the sleeving, and after my ordeal, I wasn't about to do that. Maybe on my next rig.
[img]http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8462/img1117ry8.jpg[/img]

Looks decent, but does it post?
[img]http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7527/img1127lw6.jpg[/img]


Well after freaking myself out because I had the power switch one pin off, it ended up working pretty well. I'm pleased with what came about, but would like to clean up the PSU wires a bit still. Maybe when I get some more time i'll open it up and take a look, but for now it's good enough. Suggestions welcome.
[img]http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9663/img1135ps9.jpg[/img]

All in all this project probably took 15+ hours. I had to do it over a few days after work. It took a lot longer than I thought it would, and really, all I had gone into do was sleeve it. then I decided to drill holes etc, which took a bit more time. I'd say sleeving alone took 8-10 hours for various reasons. After the sleeving was done, I had fun. I liked doing this very minor mod, I don't even know if i'd call it a mod, but it was good, and I think on my next rig i'll ahve some good ideas about how I want to wire it up, and i'll do it right from the get go.

hm, thats a pretty good idea have some wires behind.

I did a little case project of my own earlier in July, cut out a new fan hole from my case for the spare 120mm fan I had lying around. Looks pretty good but I still need to figure a better looking holding system. Right now it's just scotch tape.

Also I need to fix this shit...
[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/Stammering/crap.jpg[/img]

Everything in every game I play looks like its at ultra low-res, with shite textures despite having the options saying otherwise. Not to mention they seem to run like shit. Empire Earth 2 is the worst of them all, it looks pretty good but when there are more then 100 units in the entire map not even on screen my game will freeze+chug+normal+freeze+chug+normal no matter how low I set the options.

Specs-
Mobo: BIOSTAR TForce4U-775
GPU: ATI X800XL 256MB GDDR3
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz HT Enabled
Sound: On-Board RealTEK
PSU: AeroPower II+SE 550W
RAM: Value Selecet 1GB Module 240-PIN DDR2 DIMM
HHD: Maxtor 200 some odd GBs

Finished building my rig like 2-3 weeks ago. So happy with it, Conroe is amazing, especially oc'd to 3.15ghz

Intel Core 2 CPU 6600 @ 3.15GHz
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
mushkin REDLINE 2GB DDR2 1000
320GB Seagate + 160GB Seagate + 2xWD 10K Raptors
ASUS Radeon X1900XTX
Dell 2005FPW
Sennheiser PC165USB Headset

My next system which i hope to be core 2 im not gonna bother with clocking it. Just gets to be a pain in the ass having to have all these extreme cooling methods in place for marginal performance gains while having to fight with the system to get stability.

Hopefully this time next year ill have this current system setup alongside my new system for lan games of c&c3. happy:

but how can you not oc a conroe? its so easy...

Easy to overclock any cpu, but the problem lies in the fact that the more cores a cpu has the more likely one of them wont scale to higher clock speeds as well as the other.

Can end up being a pain in the ass seeing one core failing prime 95 and the other chugging along with no worries. Ends up usually people just send more voltage through the cpu, ive seen people run core 2 setups on watercooling overclocked hitting 70c @ load which is even worse than the prescotts on watercooling.

Next time round its gonna be all stock for me, overclocking is handy and all but some games and apps are more sensitive to it than others, even if prime goes through a 12hour stress test theres no guarantee that certain games or programs won't go haywire with the overclock.

Well my computer of 6 years finally shit the bed the other day. IT was an emachines with the following
1.7ghz Celeron
40gb HDD
768mb DDR
and an ATi Radeon 9250 256mb Graphics card

I bought a Compaq presario SR1930NX with
3.06ghx P4 HT
200gb HDD
DVD R/RW w/Light Scribe
1GB DDR
9 in 1 MEmory card reader
And the Ati Radeon 9250 256mb
All I can say is this is a huge upgrade that didnt cost a kidney.

Two things..

Why wouldnt you go intel core 2 duo?

Why the worst video card in production today?

oOo:

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HI SON!

Tripowned.