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Old Reliable 04-13-2004 11:43 PM

and where is heaven located, how does a thing get there. this is getting less realistic

ninty 04-13-2004 11:47 PM

Theres no way any organism is going to start out at 1 - 1.

Humans as we are know today are descendants from Cromags{sp} who lived before us preceding the ice age. They survived the Ice age but then for some unknown reason died off. We were spawned from them some 30,000 years ago if I remember correctly. Upright walking "men" have been around for over a million years on earth. Even them would not have started out 1-1. The first land creature to come out of the sea would have started animals on land, and we would have come from that. Organisms develop and this would have taken thousands of years to create a few hundred "monkeys" (their not monkeys, but there were a bunch of "monkey" type races before humans but I can't reember any of the names of them right now) wich would eventually develop into the Cromags and then into us. There's no way that 1 -1 theory could work. It's scientifically impossible.

If your interested, I suggest "Walking with Cavemen". This is a great look at our existence from a scientific perspective, that is impossible to dispute no matter what you believe. Its a mini series that was aired last year. Very cool stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/cavemen/

As for the incest thing, even if it was 1-1 after thousands of year that wouldn't have mattered. you start out with 1-1 and maybe until you reach a few thousand people after maybe a few hundred years those will be effected by it, but I doubt much after that. I can gurantee that if we were started like that, we would not be suffering the effects 30,000 years later. those things weed themselves out over time.

Coleman 04-14-2004 01:06 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":47065]and where is heaven located, how does a thing get there. this is getting less realistic[/quote:47065]There is no answer for that question. Heaven and religion are based of faith--that's half the problem with people these days imo. Others think that people are brainwashed if they have faith--that's perfectly a legit thought though. Faith is something that you can "blindly" walk into. I've chosen to take on faith. Others haven't and it's their choice...there's nothing I can do to give people faith.

Mr.Buttocks 04-14-2004 05:39 AM

I am Christ, worship me.

Bean 2 04-14-2004 07:06 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":27aa4][quote="Bean 2":27aa4]I myself am agnostic which means that I dont follow any religion but I still believe that their is a God. I cant understand people who think that there is no god and they call themselves atheist. There has to be some higher power who created the universe. It all had to come from somewhere, and yes science can explain the earths creation, but what about before that. Like was said before, the bible only tells stories that shouldnt be taken literally. I dont criticize anyone for believing in a religion but it annoys me when they try to push their religion and beliefs on other people which I think alot of Christians do. The rest of my family are Catholics, yet they dont go to church and from what I see they dont pray. How can you call yourself anything if you dont practice what the religion is based on. And Ive never told them that im agnostic because I know that they would try to convert me back to Catholicism. Believe in what you want but dont force your beliefs on me.[/quote:27aa4]

a higher power creating the universe is beyond comprehension and is only a dream. it would totally deny all scientific findings to this date. how can you believe in something that doesn't exist or doesn't matter? and why need to worship something when it doesn't seem to give you benefits. (my opinion) if a god really paid attention to everyone, then why do good people die? (oh it was just his/her time) oOo:[/quote:27aa4]

The universe in itself is beyond comprehension but science has no explanation for when it all began. Something had to be created to start a chain reaction to forge the universe. So who created that first thing that sparked the chain reaction. Im sure it wasnt put there out of nowhere. Someone or something had to create at least the beginning of the universe. And who has proven that god doesnt exist? No one. And to answer your question on why good people die...Ive often asked myself this question. But you have to realize that no person is truely good. Yes there are people that are better then others but everyone sins. No man is perfect so according to this no person is really good. Christians believe that the only perfect man is Jesus, which like i said before, I dont believe. I dont deny the existence of Jesus, I just dont believe he is the son of God.

Pvt.Pinhead 04-14-2004 04:11 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":06a62]and where is heaven located, how does a thing get there. this is getting less realistic[/quote:06a62]

No living thing goes to heaven...ur soul does..and heaven and hell are from what I believe more of a fealing then a place...not necesarily a place were u walk around and go to God and say wasup, I dont know how to explain it, just have faith and youll understand. And from what Colman was saying, no one know who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, we only know for a fact that Saints go to heaven, everyone else we want to believe goes to heaven but we arent truly sure, I was told a story once about this:

There was a man, a very religous man who lead a good life, caring for ppl and believing, but he often didnt have time to go to church weekly or say prayers, because he always said he was too busy and only went a few times a month. So years later this man dies and when hes in line at heavens gate (this is just so u understand better, I doubt theres really a line were God says ur n heaven or not) and when it gets to the mans turn God says to him "Hmm...Im sorry but I dont see your name on the list..." astonished the man asks why, he lead a religous life, and God simply answers, "I was always meaning to add your name, but I never seemed to have time..."

So really, u kinda have to be more then just say, I believe in God to acually go to heaven...know one really know who will go to heaven and who wont...

Coleman 04-14-2004 04:47 PM

Well, keeping the Sabbath holy is one of the first 5 commandments.

MrLevinstein 04-14-2004 05:06 PM

pyro sucks cock

Never have I ever met someone who thought they were perfect, until I met that little cock sucker. Hop over the boarder and Ill shut your mouth, you whinney little envious CUNT.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 04-14-2004 05:19 PM

I want to be a Canaanite. rock:

Judas 04-14-2004 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
Paganism is gay and trendy and any pretend outkast can join up and feel welcome..

delete that gay vampire boy.

Akuma 04-14-2004 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
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Originally Posted by Akuma
Paganism is gay and trendy and any pretend outkast can join up and feel welcome..

delete that gay vampire boy.

Vampire boy? Did you actually read anything that I wrote, assuming that you can read? I know Pagansim is hard to follow, especially for someone with such low intellect like yourself. But please try to keep up with the conversation and not make your self look imbecilic, like you do on so many occasions.

Coleman 04-14-2004 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
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Originally Posted by Akuma
Paganism is gay and trendy and any pretend outkast can join up and feel welcome..

delete that gay vampire boy.

ed: happy:

Judas 04-14-2004 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
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Originally Posted by Judas
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Originally Posted by Akuma
Paganism is gay and trendy and any pretend outkast can join up and feel welcome..

delete that gay vampire boy.

Vampire boy? Did you actually read anything that I wrote, assuming that you can read? I know Pagansim is hard to follow, especially for someone with such low intellect like yourself. But please try to keep up with the conversation and not make your self look imbecilic, like you do on so many occasions.

zz. go put on make-up, paint your nails, and follow your leader. Do exactly what he says and do not , i repeat, do not, think for yourself. Be as unoriginal as you possibly can and in the meantime SHUT YOUR GAY ASS TAP.

MrLevinstein 04-14-2004 06:51 PM

I feel honored to be sigged rock:

Coleman 04-14-2004 07:40 PM

eek:


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