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"Ukraine Says Missiles Smuggled to Iran"

[quote:dada8]The X-55 has a range of some 1,800 miles. Launched from Iran, it could reach Israel.[/quote:dada8]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=7946499

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I don't see where I'm putting words in anyone's mouth. All I see is me quoting what people said in another thread in which they were defending the actions of a country that perceives a threat to its security.

Then, in this thread, those same people are calling Israel the bad guy who apparently can be blamed for taking similar actions against a real and proven - not perceived - threat that has existed for decades.

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Alright buddy, u just pissed me off now, cuz I am a jew. Now lets see here

-If one country is allowed to develop nukes, y shouldnt another country, after all, thats pretty much like descrimination against nations, which can be likened to dsicrimination in general, and isnt freedom one of the underlyingfoundations that America was founded on so y is it constantly crossing the lines it set for itself so long ago? If America doesnt want countries to develop nukes, then y doesnt it disarm?
-Sure Iranian's say sh-t like we hate america but do u blame them? After all, we started an unjustified war in Iraq, we never do anything just to help out, if we help out, its only because our interests are involved. We also have a history of prying into other countries affairs, and constantly "sticking our nose where it doesnt belong."
-Sure they hate jews. Big deal. I am a jew. I could care less what iranians think of my religion. They have certain beliefs, and we cant just start a war because we dont like thier beliefs. And if we are gonna invade Iran, we might as well invade 50% of islamic countries as well, becuz they hate jews too. Oh and when were done with that lets invade 90% of the world, after all, they hate America.
-One more thing. Russia is the one who is building a nuclear reactor in Iran. Y not attack them. I mean sure, they have state of the art weapons systems, the largest tank armada in the world, powerful navies and air force, an enormous and well trained army, and talented generals and Admirals, but hey, if tehyre the ones causing the problem then we should invade them right? Oh but wait, America only invades countries who it knows it will win against. oOo:

1. I'm sure you're a Jew rolleyes:

2. There is a SLIGHT difference between the levels of security on such things in places like the United States and China, as opposed to those in Iran. Iran is well-known for exporting government-sponsored terrorism. They cannot be trusted enough to not send a suicide-bomber packing with a thermonuclear suitcase bomb. Nor can they be trusted to insure that nuclear devices would not be stolen. Also, if America disarmed while its enemies maintained a nuclear arsenal, it would be seriously threated. Until all countries agree to unilateral disarmament, it can never happen. So why does America get to hold the cards? Basically, because we're like the nuclear bouncer. By maintaining the arsenal we maintain, no one will attack us or another country for fear of our retaliation. We already maintain the largest arsenal, so if we were in it to nuke half the world away we could've already done it.

3. That's a damn stupid theory for why Iran would wish death upon America, the West and its citizens. Iran HATES Iraq. I'm guessing you're probably in high school and don't even know the Iran/Iraq war ever even happened. And furthermore, why would we help another country if it wasn't in the interest of our citizens? That would just be stupid. Let's go pay billions of dollars to bolster China's security forces so they can focus their funds on bulking up their military. It doesn't make much sense, does it? And sticking our nose where it doesn't belong? If you heard a screaming baby in a burning building, would you rush in to save it? If you heard 500,000 people being murdered in a country, would you rush in to save them?

sorry, labeling people as anti semites becasue they dont agree with the decisions isreal is making, is putting words in other people mouthes. typical conservative youre with or against us behaviour. i dont know one person that hates the american people so you can stop bringing that up in discussions. and last time a checked we were discussing Isreal not The Usa.

it comes down to a simple point iran and north korea shouldnt have nukes simply because they arent truthful about what their nuclear programs are being used for and they wont let it be monitored

i would rather have an evil country with nukes that was open to inspection. Iran cant do anything to stop israel just like iraq couldnt anything to stop america.

ha. u make me laugh. I know all about the iran/iraq war, how america gave iraq weapons becuz of their stance, an enemy of our enemy is our friend. Didnt work out for the US tho now did it. And wat makes the US the international police man huh? Seems to me that should be the job for the UN, not a single country. And Iran might not mind America taking out/invading Iraq, but wat they do hate is the attitude of america. That attitude that lead us to defy the UN, to start an unjustified war. The attitude that says, we are big bad america, mess with us, and well, look at Iraq, thatll tell u all u need to know. And for some reason u never responded to wat i said abouyt russia. I wonder y. rolleyes: BtW, let me tell u something. America could care less if 500k people died, as long as it didnt endanger american interests. In ww2, america knew danm well that jews were being killed by the millions, and yet if they could have avoided the war completely the would have. They only joined in the war after japan attacked pearl harbor, and even then they only declrared war on japan. Only after the germans declared war on America, did the US respond witb its own declration of war.
BTW, oh yea, im some 9th grade christian kid.(sarcasm) oOo:

Russia only provided the necessary equipment for building a nuclear power plant, they didn't drive in with a bmp waving the russian flag and decided to build a nuclear power plant. I think it was a private company. So why even worry about them?

Russia also said that they'd try to get as much nuclear waste back from the Iranians as possible to prevent the production of a nuclear bomb.

So why even ask that type of question?

u seem to be missing my point. Do i want a war with russia? of course not. Im russian, i have family in russia, etc. However, number one, it is not a private compnay. Number 2, I am trying to prove that America only invades weaker countries. And what russians say, well lets just say, if u were in their situation u would say the same thing. "sure well try to get as much of it back as we can. ;)" Bull Sh-t. Just like russia and America plan to go from about 13k nukes each to 2k each. Pure BS.

Well, you're wrong. America does not only invade weaker countries. It just so happens where there interests are there is a weak army. The only example I see is Iraq( Grenada, Panama I consider to be operations not wars. Grenada involving american hostages and Panama with Noreaga. ) The NVA and Vietcong were a powerful enemy, and so were the North Koreans/Chinese. So how is the United States only invading weaker countries? The Russians also have a similar modern history.

really. Well i leave u to tell the families of those who died that it wasnt a war, it was an "operation." And FYI, vietnamese were supposed to have been defeated very quickly. The US believed at the time it declared war that it would decimate the vietnamese forces very quickly, and if they had known the end result ahead of time they never would have attacked. Not to mention that America didnt even stick it out, and ended up withdrawing, and abandoning their south vietnamese allies. And North Korea I admit, was not weak, but Americans knew they were going to win. Especially beause it was not just americans, correct me if im wrong but I believe it was a UN force. Thats like America fighting the entire UN. Sure the US would put up a fight, but in the end it would fall.

Wow, didn't stick it out? How's 6-10 years for you? I think you're definately shitting on some graves with these words of yours.

I apologize that me calling a war that lasted a day an operation seems politcally incorrect to you. anyways...maybe we should get back ontopic

Thats like America fighting the entire UN. Sure the US would put up a fight, but in the end it would fall.



without america there wouldnt be a UN. The un should be disbanned

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