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Innoxx 05-23-2003 11:21 AM

[quote=pest]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":76cc2
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Originally Posted by LoneGunner87
I would have rather gotten a thompson or a bar gun rather then a garand.

you need a class 3 license for one of those and they cost a shitload in money and paperwork, plus nearly impossible to get in some states

Only if they are full auto. You can buy both in semiauto in any state you like. Long live the 2nd amendment![/quote:76cc2]

The semi-auto thompson looks like shyte though with the longer barrel and whatnot.Though it would be cool to own the 1928 model with the forward pistol grip and drum magazine. I'd wanna own Bren gun most of all though since it was hailed as the best LMG design of ww2.

pest 05-23-2003 11:32 AM

Which one was the Bren?

geRV 05-23-2003 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pest
Which one was the Bren?

This one

[img]http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/bren1.jpg[/img]

Never liked the look of it myself, the barrel at the front looks like an afterthought like they decided to extend it by welding another piece onto it. eek:

Innoxx 05-23-2003 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pest
Which one was the Bren?

Freakin' yanks

[img]http://world.guns.ru/machine/bren.jpg[/img]

pest 05-23-2003 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by pest
Which one was the Bren?

Freakin' yanks

[img]http://world.guns.ru/machine/bren.jpg[/img]

Not very sexy, is it?

I prefer the american and german weapons mostly.

cmelton 05-23-2003 12:52 PM

here you go




http://www.impactguns.com/store/m96_topfed.html

Office Depot 05-23-2003 01:04 PM

i got the competition grade or match grade or something like that..whichever is the best, plus the engraving it added up to about $2500.

cmelton 05-23-2003 01:33 PM

so you paid $1400 more dollars for your sub MOA rifle to be extra sub MOA ?



Are you going to be shooting in national match competitions with this rifle ?


sounds like a fine gun.



AOBTC

Innoxx 05-23-2003 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by pest
Which one was the Bren?

Freakin' yanks

[img]http://world.guns.ru/machine/bren.jpg[/img]

Not very sexy, is it?

I prefer the american and german weapons mostly.

Of course you do. If I want something sexy I'll play around with my girlfriend. If I want the best LMG of ww2 I'll get the bren. If firearms arouse you maybe you're even more fucked up than my panty-sniffing, brown-hatting roommate.

cmelton 05-23-2003 01:59 PM

why are you so offensive towards peeps. You must be picked on in real life and feel the need to strike back here. you are sir..... a sad individual.


innox = dork

Office Depot 05-23-2003 02:02 PM

yeah...


Anyways, I just wanted to get the best type of gun I could, who knows, if I'm good enough maybe I will go into some competitions.

cmelton 05-23-2003 02:13 PM

I reccomend that you pick up a couple of these for plinking with as these rounds come allready in garand clips.


http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/30_06.html



good luck

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmelton
why are you so offensive towards peeps. You must be picked on in real life and feel the need to strike back here. you are sir..... a sad individual.


innox = dork

What?

Office Depot 05-23-2003 02:24 PM

thanks man, i'll check it out

pest 05-23-2003 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
Of course you do. If I want something sexy I'll play around with my girlfriend. If I want the best LMG of ww2 I'll get the bren. If firearms arouse you maybe you're even more fucked up than my panty-sniffing, brown-hatting roommate.

Feeling a little frisky today, huh?

It is pretty obvious to prefer the best, what can I say? And you know the expression as well as I do. Calling a gun sexy hardly compares to your confused, fetish driven, butt pirate of a roommate. It doesnt even compare to having a roomy like that.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
Of course you do. If I want something sexy I'll play around with my girlfriend. If I want the best LMG of ww2 I'll get the bren. If firearms arouse you maybe you're even more fucked up than my panty-sniffing, brown-hatting roommate.

Feeling a little frisky today, huh?

It is pretty obvious to prefer the best, what can I say? And you know the expression as well as I do. Calling a gun sexy hardly compares to your confused, fetish driven, butt pirate of a roommate. It doesnt even compare to having a roomy like that.

I know, I was just fucking with ya to get an response like this since I am quite bored today and I need entertainment. Now, best? It depends what grounds you base this on, the class of the weapon and a whole slew of other shit. You name a firearm of your choice and I'll gladly tell you about it.

Office Depot 05-23-2003 02:35 PM

I would like to know all about the Klobb, the gun in Goldeneye.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:38 PM

[quote="Office Depot":f9f90]I would like to know all about the Klobb, the gun in Goldeneye.[/quote:f9f90]
Right, since than gun is fictional I can't help you too much. It did look alot like the Czech Samopal 62 "Skorpion" though.

Zoner 05-23-2003 02:47 PM

I wanna know about Han Solo's blaster or Chewie's crossbow.

They're just as real as that Klobb.

pest 05-23-2003 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx

I know, I was just fucking with ya to get an response like this since I am quite bored today and I need entertainment. Now, best? It depends what grounds you base this on, the class of the weapon and a whole slew of other shit. You name a firearm of your choice and I'll gladly tell you about it.

Well, obviouly my statement was purposely overblown too.

I like the tommy. It is a solid, proven gun. Heavy? Yes, but so what? They made shoulder straps for them and many people also said the vietmenese were too small to carry AK47s.

I also like the M1. I would love to have one and some day I will.

The STG was the most revolutionary gun of the war. Made a bit on the cheap side, but the design and performance was solid.

The colt 1911. Bad to the bone, even today. I wouldnt mind adding one of those to my collection.

Bolt action rifles? Whatever. The bren? That top loader is just plain ugly. The mp40 would be a nice gun to own. The grease gun? OK, but basically a cheap stamped version of the tommy. The BAR would be cool. I have always been a bit of a browning fan. The russian stuff? Not really interested, their greatest weapons were the weather and the shear volumn of people they could throw at you. And so on......

I prefer the american and german stuff mostly.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoner91
I wanna know about Han Solo's blaster or Chewie's crossbow.

They're just as real as that Klobb.

You know that blaster was based on the Mauser C96 pistol, Obi Wan's lightsabre was an antique british grenade, The storm trooper blaster rifle dew-hicky was based on the MG34. I there was a site out there that has all this stuff on the star wars movies.

Zoner 05-23-2003 02:52 PM

Qui-Gon Jinn's communicator in "The Phantom Menace" was a ladies Gilette razor. You know that? hee hee

Cheap effects pwn.

05-23-2003 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoner91
I wanna know about Han Solo's blaster or Chewie's crossbow.

They're just as real as that Klobb.

actually the "DL-44" blaster is a cosmetically enhanced Mauser pistol


DL-44:

[img]http://www.lightsabersinc.8m.com/images/dl-44.jpg[/img]

Mauser pistol:

[img]http://www.karamuzejs.lv/bildes/krajums_b/p_mauzers.jpg[/img]


the stormie rifle is a British Sterling Submachinegun, heavily modified of course

05-23-2003 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
. The russian stuff? Not really interested, their greatest weapons were the weather and the shear volumn of people they could throw at you. And so on......

I prefer the american and german stuff mostly.

obviously you know nothing about Russian guns.

the PPSH-41 had twice the range of the various 9mm SMGs and it was more reliable.
(sort of like the P-90 compared with modern 9mm SMGs, same principle smaller round, longer barrel)


Ever hear of the T-34 series? R. Lee Ermey himself said they were probably teh best all-round tank of WWII, and you don't talk back to the Gunny biggrin:

Zoner 05-23-2003 03:03 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":44edf]
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Originally Posted by Zoner91
I wanna know about Han Solo's blaster or Chewie's crossbow.

They're just as real as that Klobb.

actually the "DL-44" blaster is a cosmetically enhanced Mauser pistol


DL-44:

[img]http://www.lightsabersinc.8m.com/images/dl-44.jpg[/img]

Mauser pistol:

[img]http://www.karamuzejs.lv/bildes/krajums_b/p_mauzers.jpg[/img]


the stormie rifle is a British Sterling Submachinegun, heavily modified of course[/quote:44edf]

Wow. That's too cool. The stuff you learn, huh?

Innoxx 05-23-2003 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
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Originally Posted by Innoxx

I know, I was just fucking with ya to get an response like this since I am quite bored today and I need entertainment. Now, best? It depends what grounds you base this on, the class of the weapon and a whole slew of other shit. You name a firearm of your choice and I'll gladly tell you about it.

Well, obviouly my statement was purposely overblown too.

I like the tommy. It is a solid, proven gun. Heavy? Yes, but so what? They made shoulder straps for them and many people also said the vietmenese were too small to carry AK47s.

I also like the M1. I would love to have one and some day I will.

The STG was the most revolutionary gun of the war. Made a bit on the cheap side, but the design and performance was solid.

The colt 1911. Bad to the bone, even today. I wouldnt mind adding one of those to my collection.

Bolt action rifles? Whatever. The bren? That top loader is just plain ugly. The mp40 would be a nice gun to own. The grease gun? OK, but basically a cheap stamped version of the tommy. The BAR would be cool. I have always been a bit of a browning fan. The russian stuff? Not really interested, their greatest weapons were the weather and the shear volumn of people they could throw at you. And so on......

I prefer the american and german stuff mostly.

Well you won't hear any aguements from me about the thompson except for the fact that it was expensive to produce. M1 was good, sturdy weapon but it did have a few shortcomings such as the inability to load loose rounds and that ping noise it made when the stripper got ejected with the last round and it was on the heavy side too. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Now about the Bren.... Most people underestimate the combat effectivness of the firearm in question. Ugly, maybe but to me all guns are ugly unless they design one to look like a pair of nice tits. Anywho the Bren was based on the Czech ZB26. The Bren was alot better than the BAR in alot of ways:

1). It had a 30 round box magazine
2). It's mechanical components were simple and easily understood.
3). It was reliable
4). Fired at a higher muzzle velocity which meant it was more accurate
5). The .303 SAA ball round was alot more powerful
6). The barrel can be easily changed in the field

I think the Bren stood the test of time, the British did make them up until the mid 60's and rechambered them in the 7.62 NATO round. Britan, Canada, France, India, China, Australia, New Zealand and alot of other countries adopted the Bren into sevice. Japan made a few arms that used the mechanics of the Bren.

pest 05-23-2003 03:18 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":67538]
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Originally Posted by pest
. The russian stuff? Not really interested, their greatest weapons were the weather and the shear volumn of people they could throw at you. And so on......

I prefer the american and german stuff mostly.

obviously you know nothing about Russian guns.

the PPSH-41 had twice the range of the various 9mm SMGs and it was more reliable.
(sort of like the P-90 compared with modern 9mm SMGs, same principle smaller round, longer barrel)


Ever hear of the T-34 series? R. Lee Ermey himself said they were probably teh best all-round tank of WWII, and you don't talk back to the Gunny biggrin:[/quote:67538]

I still stand by my statement. What you say may be true, but it doesnt make mine wrong. The russians didnt win the winter war because of the ppsh-41 or the t-34. It was the scorched earth, endless bodies and a very nasty winter.

Office Depot 05-23-2003 03:20 PM

[quote=Innoxx]
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Originally Posted by "Office Depot":e9757
I would like to know all about the Klobb, the gun in Goldeneye.

Right, since than gun is fictional I can't help you too much. It did look alot like the Czech Samopal 62 "Skorpion" though.[/quote:e9757]

Yes, it is based off the Skorpion. It was named the Klobb after Ken Lobb, a Nintendo employee.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 03:24 PM

[quote=pest]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":75971
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Originally Posted by pest
. The russian stuff? Not really interested, their greatest weapons were the weather and the shear volumn of people they could throw at you. And so on......

I prefer the american and german stuff mostly.

obviously you know nothing about Russian guns.

the PPSH-41 had twice the range of the various 9mm SMGs and it was more reliable.
(sort of like the P-90 compared with modern 9mm SMGs, same principle smaller round, longer barrel)


Ever hear of the T-34 series? R. Lee Ermey himself said they were probably teh best all-round tank of WWII, and you don't talk back to the Gunny biggrin:

I still stand by my statement. What you say may be true, but it doesnt make mine wrong. The russians didnt win the winter war because of the ppsh-41 or the t-34. It was the scorched earth, endless bodies and a very nasty winter.[/quote:75971]

Actually during the Finnish Winter War the T-34 and PPSH-41 didn't even exist.


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