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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/csfcf00.pdf but incase you dont feel like scrolling down and finding the stats, here they are: Approximately 46% of all prison inmates (excluding those whose race was not reported) were black; 36%, white; 16%, Hispanic; 1%, American Indian or Alaska Native; and 1%, Asian or Pacific Islander (table 4). Federal Black inmates comprised the largest category (40%), followed by Hispanic (30%), white non-Hispanic (27%), American Indian or Alaska State 47% of inmates were black; 37% were white; 14%, Hispanic; 1%, American Indian or Alaska Native; and less than 1%, Asian or Pacific Islander. Private The largest category of inmates was black (42%), followed by white (32%); Hispanic (22%); American Indian or Alaska Native (2%); and Asian or Pacific Islander (2%). [img]http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/prison%20stats.JPG[/img] there you are, irefutable evidence to what i have been saying... |
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185 6,0 Short Hand In The Otherc Corner 255 6,3 -Starting Offensive Tackle for RFH WolfPack. What a fight........ |
[quote="Cpl. Eames":e05f3][quote="Sgt Stryker":e05f3]it's not about who commits crimes, its about who has more money to buya better liar...uh I mean lawyer.
Most of the time its the white guy that can hire the better lawyer, with the exception of black stars like OJ or gangster rappers PS. it looks like teh Nazi shits are out in force, I'd better warm up the Huey, ninty, want to play door gunner?[/quote:e05f3] oh thats bs and you know it, the over whelming majority of white people couldnt afford to hire a johnny cockren type lawyer to get them outta a crime and you know it, the courts dont care anymore if your black, white or whatever if your guilty your getting busted...unless your a celeberity or extremely wealthy.[/quote:e05f3] are you dumb ? Most blacks are stuck with a public defender which does next to nothing. while the average white person at least has a lawyer which is partially dedicated to his or her case. It is not a sense of them commiting the crime because of skin color and this is all your pointing this to be all about. The fact is that they are commiting these crimes because of their forced pace in fucking society which we "us" fucking white people foced them in to. If you ccan't get that threw your brain washed red neck hill billy fucking head then you are beyond eve being repaired. "By the way when you join Marines i hope you let you mouth slip like it is now so all the Black guyz around you can kick your ass. You are only baseing your points on the up front facts. You have to look a bit deeper and see the proper truth in it all. Why are these charts showing what they are showing ? have you ever asked yourself that ? Have you ever thought i wonder why so many african Americans are in jail and commit crime ? WHY ask you self that one stupid simple question and the answer is so simple that it should smack you right up the face and throw your head over heels into the blitz we call knowledge wisdom and humbleness. As i said before they are left in poverty and well when your down and you want what all the rich people have which is us "whites " thenyour going to of course break the law to get there. Temptation is before us all as I said if things were vice versa then we would be the ones jacking cars ripping stereo's robbing the liqour store more often. Now just sit the fuck back print those charts off and shove them up your KKK ass you Hill Billy Nazi Red NEck mother fucker. thkz you. |
[quote="Short Hand":b6898][quote="Cpl. Eames":b6898][quote="Sgt Stryker":b6898]it's not about who commits crimes, its about who has more money to buya better liar...uh I mean lawyer.
Most of the time its the white guy that can hire the better lawyer, with the exception of black stars like OJ or gangster rappers PS. it looks like teh Nazi shits are out in force, I'd better warm up the Huey, ninty, want to play door gunner?[/quote:b6898] oh thats bs and you know it, the over whelming majority of white people couldnt afford to hire a johnny cockren type lawyer to get them outta a crime and you know it, the courts dont care anymore if your black, white or whatever if your guilty your getting busted...unless your a celeberity or extremely wealthy.[/quote:b6898] are you dumb ? Most blacks are stuck with a public defender which does next to nothing. while the average white person at least has a lawyer which is partially dedicated to his or her case. It is not a sense of them commiting the crime because of skin color and this is all your pointing this to be all about. The fact is that they are commiting these crimes because of their forced pace in fucking society which we "us" fucking white people foced them in to. If you ccan't get that threw your brain washed red neck hill billy fucking head then you are beyond eve being repaired. "By the way when you join Marines i hope you let you mouth slip like it is now so all the Black guyz around you can kick your ass. You are only baseing your points on the up front facts. You have to look a bit deeper and see the proper truth in it all. Why are these charts showing what they are showing ? have you ever asked yourself that ? Have you ever thought i wonder why so many african Americans are in jail and commit crime ? WHY ask you self that one stupid simple question and the answer is so simple that it should smack you right up the face and throw your head over heels into the blitz we call knowledge wisdom and humbleness. As i said before they are left in poverty and well when your down and you want what all the rich people have which is us "whites " thenyour going to of course break the law to get there. Temptation is before us all as I said if things were vice versa then we would be the ones jacking cars ripping stereo's robbing the liqour store more often. Now just sit the fuck back print those charts off and shove them up your KKK ass you Hill Billy Nazi Red NEck mother fucker. thkz you.[/quote:b6898] again more bs excuses your trying to make for your failed stance, trying to make it look like they are forced to commit crime, again coming from a stupid foreigner who knows nothing of what its like here in the states, let me educate you, again. When my ancestors came to america 400 years ago there was nothing but forest, savages, and disease. We had to start with nothing and work hard to create a prosperous nation, millions upon millions of imigrants came to the united states and wound up on the bottom of society, but they worked hard and over came their circumstances and were able to prosper. The problem with most minorities and new imigrants is this, they see all these white people with living prosperous lives and they think its not fair, they dont stop and realize that the only reason they are where they are now is through generations of hard work and toil...most white people in the united states didnt even go to college untill after ww2 b/c the gi bill gave them the oprotunity too. And don't tell me that minorities don't have the same oprotunities as white people because again thats bull shit...I know plenty of minorities who over came their situation and suroundings to create a better life for themselves and their familiy, and you want to know how they did it??? The same way everyone else who has something did it HARD WORK!! The problem is that most minorities as shown by these statistics are to influenced by their gangster rap culture that they have tried to create for themselves so they would rather try to be "hard thugs" smoking crack and comiting crimes, thats the reason why there is such a high minority crime rate, not because there forced to comit crime thats the biggest load of shit ive ever heard, minorities here have more rights then white people now, they have acess to all sorts of free hand outs and affirmitive action programs, and thats the problem with americas minorities, they are having everything handed to them on a silver platter all they have to do is show some inititive and work for it, but they dont want to, their used to hand outs, and politicians especially the liberals here love catering to this to get the minority vote by offering handouts. And if you still dont believe me go and ask any educated minority who has made something of themselves and are prospering here how they got where they are, and they will tell you, "i busted my ass and spent all my time working, studying, and managing my time, i got here because of my own merits not because of afirmitive action or any hand outs" Even educated minorities will tell you the problem with americas minorities isnt because of white discrimination, whites are the ones being discriminated against with our afirmitive action programs, its because of lack of initiative, they expect everything to be handed to them, and when its not they blame it on white racism. oh and btw if you read anything I have written here, i havent made one racist comment, you play the racist card just like minorities do, to justify their failure. |
Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.
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I'm not going to jump headlong into this flame-fest, but I'll say this about people tossing about insults regarding crime, etc in the US compared their Euro countries:
- We have one state that is larger than almost every European country. - We have fifty states. - More than two thirds of our States have the same land area as several European countries combined. - We have fifty states. - We have states bigger than Sweden. - Oh yeah.. we have fifty states. - I'm calling this off the top of my head, so I can't remember if it's 3 or 4, but there are only 3-4 countries in Europe considered to have more freedoms than the United States by the UN. That's it. And don't go on about drug laws, etc. Having slack drug laws doesn't make up for all the other Socialist policies (let's not forget Hitler was a Socialist). |
[quote="Short Hand":7f915]Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.
Done Fucking Rant.[/quote:7f915] What is that? You just rambeled on about them being poor as the excuse for their high crime rates, and if you actually read and comprehended what i wrote before then you would have under stood why alot of minorities are in the position they are in right now, they dont want to work hard to pull themselves out. And if our society is so racist like you make it seem then why are there some sucessful minorities, not celelberties...but just normal people who live the normal middle class american life?? There is no racist conspiracy holding minorities down in this country at all you idiot, there are plenty of oprotunities available to everyone here, especially minorities now a days here in the states, the only problem is lack of motivation or will to work hard to better their situation. I will agree prior to the civil rights act of 1964 that minorities were not on an equal playing fields with whites and were being descrimated against severely, but you know what...its been 40 years, and so much things have changed, theirs now plenty of oprotunities for them to over come their current situation, all they have to do is work hard for it, like every other american who has something. In addition, there are no starving people in the united states...if you would take a look a the charts i provided on the types of crimes being comited, they weren't "survival crimes" like stealing so you can feed your family, they were violent crimes like rape, murder, and armed robbery. True in history the lower echelons of society who were denied basic services and had no other oprotunity but to steal to feed their families is one thing, but selling drugs, stealing, and murdering so you can have more "luxuries" like the new nike's or some platinum rims on their car, etc is a completly diferent story. Like I said earlier poverty isnt an excuse, no ones starving or struggling EVERYONE has acess to wellfare, food stamps, and medicare which provide food and medical service to all us citizens, public schools and afirmitive action programs provide the oprotunity for minorities to get an education and improve their status, all they have to do is take advantage of them and work hard in school, the ball has been in their court for a while, the oprotunities for them to suceed have been there...and some have taken advantage of it and are prospering here, while sadly the majority continue to sit around and commit crimes and collect hand outs because, hey...why work when uncle sam will feed you, and the extra cash you get from selling drugs will pay for your other needs? |
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How does the amount of states affect anything? You could have 5 million states. What difference does it make. And the largest state is California with about 30 million people. Many european countries are larger than 30 million with the exception of luxembourg and other countries similar. Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Poland, Spain, Russia, Ukraine all have more than 30 million people.
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[quote="Cpl. Eames":f405e][quote="Short Hand":f405e]Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.
Done Fucking Rant.[/quote:f405e] What is that? You just rambeled on about them being poor as the excuse for their high crime rates, and if you actually read and comprehended what i wrote before then you would have under stood why alot of minorities are in the position they are in right now, they dont want to work hard to pull themselves out. And if our society is so racist like you make it seem then why are there some sucessful minorities, not celelberties...but just normal people who live the normal middle class american life?? There is no racist conspiracy holding minorities down in this country at all you idiot, there are plenty of oprotunities available to everyone here, especially minorities now a days here in the states, the only problem is lack of motivation or will to work hard to better their situation. I will agree prior to the civil rights act of 1964 that minorities were not on an equal playing fields with whites and were being descrimated against severely, but you know what...its been 40 years, and so much things have changed, theirs now plenty of oprotunities for them to over come their current situation, all they have to do is work hard for it, like every other american who has something. In addition, there are no starving people in the united states...if you would take a look a the charts i provided on the types of crimes being comited, they weren't "survival crimes" like stealing so you can feed your family, they were violent crimes like rape, murder, and armed robbery. True in history the lower echelons of society who were denied basic services and had no other oprotunity but to steal to feed their families is one thing, but selling drugs, stealing, and murdering so you can have more "luxuries" like the new nike's or some platinum rims on their car, etc is a completly diferent story. Like I said earlier poverty isnt an excuse, no ones starving or struggling EVERYONE has acess to wellfare, food stamps, and medicare which provide food and medical service to all us citizens, public schools and afirmitive action programs provide the oprotunity for minorities to get an education and improve their status, all they have to do is take advantage of them and work hard in school, the ball has been in their court for a while, the oprotunities for them to suceed have been there...and some have taken advantage of it and are prospering here, while sadly the majority continue to sit around and commit crimes and collect hand outs because, hey...why work when uncle sam will feed you, and the extra cash you get from selling drugs will pay for your other needs?[/quote:f405e] IYou call me the rambling idiot ? Or is that because you only read the last line of my whole post. Read before you whine you fucking red neck. Im talking about per capita not just the whole danm country. |
[quote="Short Hand":7408b][quote="Cpl. Eames":7408b][quote="Short Hand":7408b]Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.
Done Fucking Rant.[/quote:7408b] What is that? You just rambeled on about them being poor as the excuse for their high crime rates, and if you actually read and comprehended what i wrote before then you would have under stood why alot of minorities are in the position they are in right now, they dont want to work hard to pull themselves out. And if our society is so racist like you make it seem then why are there some sucessful minorities, not celelberties...but just normal people who live the normal middle class american life?? There is no racist conspiracy holding minorities down in this country at all you idiot, there are plenty of oprotunities available to everyone here, especially minorities now a days here in the states, the only problem is lack of motivation or will to work hard to better their situation. I will agree prior to the civil rights act of 1964 that minorities were not on an equal playing fields with whites and were being descrimated against severely, but you know what...its been 40 years, and so much things have changed, theirs now plenty of oprotunities for them to over come their current situation, all they have to do is work hard for it, like every other american who has something. In addition, there are no starving people in the united states...if you would take a look a the charts i provided on the types of crimes being comited, they weren't "survival crimes" like stealing so you can feed your family, they were violent crimes like rape, murder, and armed robbery. True in history the lower echelons of society who were denied basic services and had no other oprotunity but to steal to feed their families is one thing, but selling drugs, stealing, and murdering so you can have more "luxuries" like the new nike's or some platinum rims on their car, etc is a completly diferent story. Like I said earlier poverty isnt an excuse, no ones starving or struggling EVERYONE has acess to wellfare, food stamps, and medicare which provide food and medical service to all us citizens, public schools and afirmitive action programs provide the oprotunity for minorities to get an education and improve their status, all they have to do is take advantage of them and work hard in school, the ball has been in their court for a while, the oprotunities for them to suceed have been there...and some have taken advantage of it and are prospering here, while sadly the majority continue to sit around and commit crimes and collect hand outs because, hey...why work when uncle sam will feed you, and the extra cash you get from selling drugs will pay for your other needs?[/quote:7408b] IYou call me the rambling idiot ? Or is that because you only read the last line of my whole post. Read before you whine you fucking red neck. Im talking about per capita not just the whole danm country.[/quote:7408b] I dont even know what your talking about, I answered your question of "why minorities arent as prosperous in the united states?" and i debunked your "their impoverished thats why they comit crime" argument. And you think im whining? I'm defending my position from the attacks of whiney liberals like yourself whose best argument against me is "im racist" "minorities fail because your racist" which is complete bull shit...just admit it, ive owned you in this just like i owned stryker on the iraq issue. |
You debunked nothing. You only furthered the hate everyone has for you even more on this board. Please tell me again how did you refer to the native Americans ? Savages ? Wow thats not racism is it ? So don't go on saying your not because you are. You also refer to muslim's as rag heads. WHich again...get this .. IS a racist term. Just shut up and die. Your worse then fucking hayward.
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Ohh and to add. You have owned nothing. Only yourself by revealing the true racist hateful person that you are. Have you ever watched American History X ? Please do and maybe youll see the real fucking truth and start to comprehend what the real world is.
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[quote="Short Hand":f5f2f]Well lets see if you discriminate a people force them into the lower ends of society of course crime will occur at a higher rate with them. The highest crime rate happens to always be in the poorer group. The only reason African Americans and other minorities are in this lower class is because "US" the white people forced them into it with centurys of hatred discrmination etc etc. So therefore this whole problem started because of racism on us white people's behalf. I can assure you if it was vice versa then we would be the ones commiting the crimes.
Seriously your racism is starting to piss me off. If you haven't learnt anything from History racism only causes more hate and loss in the end.[/quote:f5f2f] Are you referring to me???You so, I am extremely against racism. I just wish everyone is treated equal and not to be looked at different, In fact, I am one of them. I do not wanted to be treated differently just because the country I'm from or skin color. All I am stating, is, I don't know anything about Bush or what he does. I'm know NOTHING about polititics. I am very sorry for this. calmdown: |
lol, yeah I was sure "owned" when I proved that your idea of murdering all of Mosul would only make Iraq rise up and make a democratic Iraq impossible
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[quote="Short Hand":f2e52]You debunked nothing. You only furthered the hate everyone has for you even more on this board. Please tell me again how did you refer to the native Americans ? Savages ? Wow thats not racism is it ? So don't go on saying your not because you are. You also refer to muslim's as rag heads. WHich again...get this .. IS a racist term. Just shut up and die. Your worse then fucking hayward.[/quote:f2e52]
What do you think indians are? Hmm let me see...minorities and united states citizens, who even have it better because they get all the benifits of us citizenship but can live on a reservation and not pay taxes, again they determine their own destiny by their motivation to improve their situation, its funny how your only arguments can be with my word choice, which Im sorry isnt the currently accepted politicaly correct termanology. |
the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos |
[quote="Sgt Stryker":1a15a]the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos[/quote:1a15a] exactly, but according to shorthand indians are in dire poverty and are starving because of a "white racist conspiracy" thats keeping them down. |
[quote="Cpl. Eames":44a22][quote="Sgt Stryker":44a22]the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos[/quote:44a22] exactly, but according to shorthand indians are in dire poverty and are starving because of a "white racist conspiracy" thats keeping them down.[/quote:44a22] I guess Dirk "Starbuck" Benedict visited one of their casinos and made them go broke biggrin: |
Also, according to shorthand the following people are racist because of their word choice:
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do you know no fucking end ? You never shut the fuck up.
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I would hardly call what you said an opinion, Just a flaming insult about the president of my country. It was not constructive criticism or really within the scope of the discussion. Just a smart ass comment that I didn't find funny. So close minded no, offended at your comment yes. I don't care if you like him or not, just be more mature about it. You don't see me making comments like that about the leader of your country, so why don't you STFU and remember that not all people appreciate that shit even though there seems to be alot of anti-american sentiment on the forums these days. the_finger: the_finger: |
[quote="Short Hand":ed04a]do you know no fucking end ? You never shut the fuck up.
If i remember correctly Zoner used that term to define the murder of the American soldiersi n the supply truck. That was not racist. He was reffering to those specific group of people at that time. They were savage for what they did.[/quote:ed04a] Oh, well, he was replying to the same thread i was...if his comments werent racist then why are mine? And what about what everyone else says? Just admit it you lost move on, none of your points you have been able to back up, all you can do is flame, and now we're resolving whether whose word choice is "racist" and whose isnt, the topic has already gotten extremely offtopic, even for an offtopic section...i have backed up all of my statements with facts and reasonable arguments that you havent been able to discredit at all, so just admit it you were mistaken about the way things are in america and lets move on. |
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I dropped that comment for one single reason.. There is no doubt about the fact that the US is the mightiest country in the world atm, hence, the president is the mightiest man. And since hes got that power, the fact that hes no brighter than a chimp really scares me.. I did not mean it as anti-american propaganda or anything, i just think that you made a bad choice for your leader the last time, and that you guys should think it over more carefully this time.. And that thing about talking bad about our leader.. Go ahead, i dont mind.. Hes been a total asshole since the first day of his regim, and we just cant wait for the next election.. Btw, surprise me and tell me his name.. oOo: |
If you don't like our president, whatever...just say you dont agree with him, don't make stupid comments like this.
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[quote="Cpl. Eames":8a924]If you don't like our president, whatever...just say you dont agree with him, don't make stupid comments like this.
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He went to yale only because daddy had powerful influence. He also had nice little connections so his oil biz would of course be successful. It's incredible the things you can do when you know the right people. It doesn't change the fact that he's a complete idiot, though. Take that b00n. |
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nice little connections so his oil biz would of course be successful. It's incredible the things you can do when you know the right people. It doesn't change the fact that he's a complete idiot, though. Take that b00n.[/quote:ffc3a] Thats nice, if you think hes an idiot whatever...I can't change your opinion but show some respect for the office of president like i said earlier if you don't like him say you don't like him, theres no need to attack the intelligance or other personal traits of the president, attack the issues you disagree with him on instead. |
I am proud to be an american, but im ashamed to have bush as our president. I just hate republicans
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Thats nice, if you think hes an idiot whatever...I can't change your opinion but show some respect for the office of president like i said earlier if you don't like him say you don't like him, theres no need to attack the intelligance or other personal traits of the president, attack the issues you disagree with him on instead.[/quote:7aa51] What are we supposed to say? He's smart? He doesn't look like a monkey? Because neither of those things are true. His intelligence or lack there of leads to those decisions. If he made decisions a majority agreed with, then people wouldn't call him an idiot, right? Another example would be all the words he suddenly creates, like misunderestimate. And how many times did he have to say "evil-doers"? he couldn't think of another term? Finally, who can resist calling him a monkey? |
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Well, it shows that he does not understand the English language, and therefore deminishes his intelligence in the eyes of his people.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm 'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.' 'I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.' 'They misunderestimated me.' 'Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?' |
Everyone makes mistakes, in word choice...even presidents, why didn't anyone give clinton a hard time whenever he fucked up with things such as word choice, i still remember how a few months after the lewenski scandal when clinton started bombing iraq, he made a speech in which he mispronounced iraq, and said "erect", the main stream media, snl, or anything didnt make a big deal about him screwing up, the only place i heard it from was on a local radio show. Almost all of the critiscm that bush faces is directed at from the left, who hate him because hes republican, really hate him for beating their beloved gore, and especially despise how his aproval rating is so high and that most americans agree with him on the war on terror, thats why their is so much critiscm because the liberals can't stand the fact that hes doing a good job and want to point out as much of his mistakes as possible in order to try and take away his public support.
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I don't think clinton made multiple mistakes in every single speech he made.
Isn't Bush's approval rating somewhere around 50%? I thought Bush did a great job with the war on terror. I had no problem with that. But Iraq isn't the war on terror. Thats a defferent agenda. Everyone supported the war on terror. |
Iraq is to part of the war on terror, the mission of the united states from the outset was not only to eliminate al-queda put to eliminate all regimes that were hostile to the united states, iraq is the first country to go down, other countries will be next if they dont cooperate with us.
as for his aproval rating you are correct that his current aproval rating is 52% but thats not because of the war on iraq, because his aproval rating during the war on iraq jumped from 60% to 71% source http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98928,00.html but still he has retained the aproval of the majority of americans despite all of the negative press the liberaly biased media has thrown at him, and it infuriates the liberals thats why there so vicious in their attacks because they cant understand why the majority of americans agree with him. |
So I suppose you think that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11?
9/11 was cause by Osama bin Laden and Al Quedia. Not by Saddam. The purpose of the war on terror was to get rid of bin Laden and the Taliban government that sheltered terrorist training camps. Before the Iraq war, Pres. Bush said that the reason for going to war was that the threat of weapons of mass destruction was high. They even tried to prove it to the world by showing Trucks that were supposedly weapons manufacturing trucks and buildings that were supposed to house WMD. 8 months later there I still have not heard of any WMD that was a threat to the US. The purpose of the Iraq war was to get rid of saddam, and WMD was used as an excuse. Pres. Bush mislead the entire world and lied to its people. Iraq was not a threat to world peace, Iraq was not going to invade another country, and Iraq didn't have any weapons capeable of harming America. |
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i dont even know what your leader looks like. what his name is...nor do i care. i get a kick out of all the other ppl who do care that arent from the US though happy: |
The US is the most powerful leader in the world. I doubt there is a single person who lives in a first world country with a TV that doesn't know who Bush is.
Anyway, what's your point? |
Well, he's smart enough to fly a fighter jet, which isn't an easy thing to do...
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