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[spiewalk] 02-24-2002 08:59 AM

Better lay off the snacks then.. anyway, Yeah I wanna go to Omaha and take as many pictures as I can. My question is that is Omaha really a French name? It sure doesn't sound French.

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Vassili 02-24-2002 10:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stusan:
Yes, but remember one thing: the people that died when we dropped the atomic bombs were civilians, for the most part uninvolved with the war. Had we invaded, SOLDIERS would have died. I'm not saying we should or should not have bombed them, for I do not know enough about it to have an opinion. Just something to keep in mind.

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Not only soldiers would have died. Mass suicide was going on with civilians, as I understand it.Women & children were jumping off cliffs.People hanged themselves. I cant remember exactly why, but I think it was cuz of their religion/beliefs.

02-24-2002 11:06 PM

Yes Great respect to those men that falled at the combat 1944 .. It takes so many deep breaths to get trough few MG-42 and heavy artillery..

-Sorry my bad english.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Flammenwerfer 02-24-2002 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Rickets:
lol i just read my post and i kinda came off wrong there... my whole idea is not to go get shot!!! but if it happens it happens, ive made up my mind i want to go in the army, and no im not brainwashed by computer games or movies, i know i know i know... and im not just some neive little rambo wanna-be, i really want to do this, for myslef and my country not any 1 else



hi,i have absolutely nothing against young guys who want to join the army so feel free to do it (especially since you have "no other abilities) but i really can't understand why you want WAR,for christ's sake.i agree with the guy that made suggestion that you should donate money to charities if you want to do something for your country.
and you may say that you're not brainwashed by movies but i don't believe you.i'd recommend you to watch documentations about war veterans or maybe even talk to a veteran.it might be true that there's a special kind of atmosphere when you're in a war,having a break with your comrades but never forget that you never come back from a battlefield (IF you survived the battle!) the same way you entered it.

P.S. i'm not sure if you get the idea behind my words for i'm not a native english-speaking...sorry for that http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif



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02-24-2002 11:22 PM

Wow! u actually got photos from Omaha beach!? i sit possible to send me som eover email? please =)

Mosquito 02-24-2002 11:25 PM

Actually Flammenwerfer, it's very well written, better than many of the Canadian and Americans writing here (a flaw in our educational system perhaps??). Anyway, it's agreed that you can't leave a battlefield intact (at least not emotionally or psychologically). I for one can at least give Rickets the benefit of the doubt and if he says he's not brainwashed by games and hollywood then perhaps he isn't. Who are we to say so. I know several people who are in the military, including my father, who are not brainwashed or even into killing. Most wackos wouldn't get through the psychological profiling to begin with. Anyway, if he wants to join the Military and serve his country in that way, who are we to discourage him. If wasn't for a lot of people wanting to serve their countries in more dangerous times (WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, etc..) then where would we all be now? However Rickets, the military is a difficult and demanding career choice, you must choose to leave a lot of yourself behind, and work your ass off. You must also be able to handle being ordered about daily without question or reservation, it's not for everyone. By the way, are you on the OFP forum (Black Knight)?

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truppe 02-25-2002 01:02 AM

Omaha, in fact all of Normandy is a fabulous place. There are still bunkers to see....the cratered landscape hidden under dune stabilisation foliage.....memorials everywhere.

To mention the other side (and no...I am not a Nazi...just a historian...:-)
I had an original funeral card for a young panzer soldier killed around D-Day +6 so I went and foundf his grave in the German cemetary in La Cambe. He is a few blocks from Michael Wittmann's grave. It was very moving...as the card has a picture of him on it.

There are lots of things to see...right through Normandy.....and it is well worth the trip!

Cheers, Truppe.

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coax 02-25-2002 03:16 AM

Untersturmfuhrer Draksen,
I have visited the island of Corregidor in the Philippines in the early 80's. I know the feelings of great awe, & the feelings of respect you are talking about. The island is pretty much unchanged since the early 40's also. The bombed out barracks, the emplacements of the huge guns, the bunkers, etc. The tunnels were sealed off was about the only thing changed.

I remember going down into bunkers & passageways & seeing the walls still pockmarked from machinegun fire. Really sends chills through you.

I think what made the most impression on me was seeing one of the huge 12 inch mortars (13 tons) hurled 150 yards from where it was originally, when a Japanese bombardment set off 1600 bags of 63lb. powder charges.

I got a book with pics. I wish I could get my ancient scanner working...

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02-25-2002 05:41 AM

my every male and a few females in my family have either served in military or police force since WWI, its kinda my family haritage, and dont get me wrong im not stupid, i could hold a desk job, i just wouldn't want 2. i have seen war documentary's and i have books, very graphic books from WWII and NAM, i dont know, i guess im just looking for the brotherhood and close bonding that solders share with each other, ive never really been close 2 somone and would like to be able to have a fun career as well, and thank you for not criticising me further (whoever it was that gave me the benifit of the doubt)im not crazy and i do know (not personally) but i know of the horible things that happen in war, i would much rather talk to a veteran than a girl, damn... you all know when u were little kids u would make stick guns and run around and shoot ur freinds and blah blah, well i guess i never eally grew out of that, and thats who i am. wow this post has taken a huge turn from the "omaha respect" thing it started out as, and whoever started this post, you are hella cool! anyways, if this makes anysense 2 u guys at all ,thanks for understanding. i guess i leave u with "Im not praying for war, but im training for one, and if there is one, il be the first to get up and go".... Peace

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02-25-2002 05:46 AM

god i cant go one sentence w/o a typo, ... yeah theres alota mistakes, maby i cant hold a desk job lol, sry about my stupid typing skills, maby i should proof read eh? ... im one hell of a good shot tho =P

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02-25-2002 07:02 AM

see, i didn't get this crazy idea to go get shot through playing moh, its what iv wanted to do wince i was just a wee lad, im almost 16 and i'v completly made up my mind i want to do it, im not good at anything else, school is boring, i could never have a desk job o r work construction for 5.50 an hour... i like being outside and i like guns! anyone else have a better idea?

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02-25-2002 07:05 AM

lol i just read my post and i kinda came off wrong there... my whole idea is not to go get shot!!! but if it happens it happens, ive made up my mind i want to go in the army, and no im not brainwashed by computer games or movies, i know i know i know... and im not just some neive little rambo wanna-be, i really want to do this, for myslef and my country not any 1 else

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02-25-2002 07:35 AM

id love to see the real beach some time

Sh3ll_Sh0ck 02-25-2002 07:42 AM

The "fun" of war ends the second a bullet fired in anger zips past your head.

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Mosquito 02-25-2002 09:07 AM

Those who love war and enjoy killing usually make the worst soldiers....no concept of authority.

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Malphal 02-25-2002 10:59 AM

Your post has inspired me. I didn't know that Omaha beach was untouched. Wow. I gotta go. When I played that level I was amazed that anyone could have survived that much gunfire and explosions. It was mostly by chance who died and who did not. Anyway, I have to hand it to them. Those who lived and died there deserve our respect. Someone had to fight so that we could live as we do. I owe them for that.

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02-26-2002 12:04 AM

so RICKETS , you think a job in the army will be fun???think of all you will give up!!!take it you like computers right,and films etc.sure you may get to use/see them,but not as much.you also say you have never got close to anybody,how would you feel when the person you get close to gets wasted on the battlefield,what would you do if it was your fault???just because your family served in WW1 etc. does it mean you have to follow them?hope you see sense man.

Maj.Click 02-26-2002 02:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by QualityControl:
If you don't know anything about World War II, don't try to argue with someone who does.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How old are? http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
warning the japanese government about a weapon and.. throwing it on civilians? how the hell is that related? plz understand our posts before replying shit.
Throwing the atomic bomb on civilians was the best move of the 20th century???? oh boy.
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02-26-2002 06:14 AM

Hehhehee, nice pics http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dustin0096:
Can you please stop talking about this topic i am tired of seeing it refresh.

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QualityControl 02-26-2002 06:49 AM

Maj.Click-

The better question is, how old are you?

Judging by your sentence structure and very primitive grammatical skills, I'm assuming 13 or 14.

I just told you why dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was a good thing. Why won't your read my posts again.

However, I will say this again: if we would've invaded Japan, millions of lives would've been lost. At least 500,000 U.S. casualties, and many times that for the Japanese.

The atomic bombs only claimed a little over 100,000 lives. Plus, it got the war over with a lot quicker, which obviously helped the rest of the world, especially Western Europe, with the bad shape many of those countries were in.

02-26-2002 07:31 AM

yes i do think having a career in the army would be fun, i like guns and i like being outside what better thing would there be to do than combine both... with free housing, free medical, free basically everything, for life, (if i make a career out of it) ??!!

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02-26-2002 07:32 AM

*this is just so i will have twenty posts*

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WolfDeath*187 02-28-2002 08:36 AM

Hey i must say that every one thats complaining about rickets for wanting to go into the army just stop patrinizing him if it wasent for men like rickets we would have lost the war so dont try to make hiom stop insted incorge him because it was ppl like him that fought and died for are freedom so i respect what rickets wants to do.

WolfDeath*187 02-28-2002 08:37 AM

O one more thing can i post a pic of some thin i got off the internet i have a pic of omaha and no its not one of the beach its one of the casulties station just so some ppl can see what happend there.

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Refresh_Deamon 02-28-2002 09:39 AM

I was just wondering...
In the movie Saving Private Ryan once the troops broke over the shingle they appeared to go over the dune where the Gun emplacements were and then fight the Nazis,
(I won't say Germans cos germans are beautiful people)in the trenches at the back.
But in MOHAA they all swooped into the trench leading into the bunker that goes up to the Pillboxes...
Which one was more right?
Did they go OVER like in SPR or
UNDER and UP like MOHAA...

03-01-2002 01:08 AM

Just a word to say that I am now registered in this forum as [ThSkr] Draksen and no longer Untersturmfuhrer Draksen.
104 replies and now 105 with mine (lol).
I'm impressed.
Really impressed.

Thank you !

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03-01-2002 09:47 AM

There is more beaches then just omaha. I want more people to know that..


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