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Tystnad 05-15-2004 01:41 PM

[quote=Eames]
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Originally Posted by "[2ss
Panzer":fe1b8]
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Originally Posted by bukdez
1st off -- this is NOT a war on Islam; its a war on a fanatical group of Muslums...

2nd -- I've read the Quran, the entire Bible, the Dhammapada, and the Bhagavad-Gita... but that doesn't mean I know what it is like to be part of any of those faiths... only what they say, and how I interpret it as a white, westerner.

Iv'e known, and still do, many Muslim people, men and women... I have yet to meet any that support Bin Ladin, Saddam, Al-Queda, Baath, or any of the fanatical muslim groups, they also don't support Hammas, the Taliban, or any form of suicide attacks or terrorist actions... these people dont hate the US or the Western world, they see it as a place that offers them a chance at educational and economic growth, and are more than happy to be here...

i don't agree with terrorism or the acts of millitant fanatical islamic groups... but people cant blame every muslim for this situation...

saying all muslims are at fault or lumping thier thoughts into one mind-set, is as bad as the fanatics actions of deeming all westerners as infidels and anti-muslims...

well said...I do not support any of these groups except the Hezbollah for they are not known as a terrorist group. Hezbollah has even called for other muslims to not follow these groups for the way they are. Hezbollah denounced the beheading 1 hour after it was released calling it "haram wa mosh islam." which practically means islam forbids it.

John J. I have seen that website many times and i laugh everytime someone tries to use it for facts. That site couldnt be bias oOo:

whats bias about it??? its what your fucking quran says, i cant believe anyone can actually follow islam its one of the biggest scam religions ever devised, if anyone wants to learn about the true aspects of islam i suggest you read robert moreys "the islamic invasion"[/quote:fe1b8]

Or even better, you hick, read the quran yourself.
Ive read it, and its all about how you think that decides what the shit in it means.
I mean, if we wanted to, we could find "legal" ways to execute all the horses in the world in the Bible.
Now stfu you rasial fuck.

Old Reliable 05-15-2004 02:37 PM

where does it say in the bible "thou shalt kill muslims to reap in favors of land and business"

Tystnad 05-15-2004 02:39 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":8ed7a]where does it say in the bible "thou shalt kill muslims to reap in favors of land and business"[/quote:8ed7a]

Who are you talking to?

Old Reliable 05-15-2004 02:39 PM

eames biblethumper

SoLiDUS 05-15-2004 02:54 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":3708b]
if this is true, then why is bush trying to americanize iraq?[/quote:3708b]

Forcing americanization down their throats won't make them any more
civilized if they had no intention of doing so by themselves in the first
place: all we're doing is fueling the fire...

Not the best example in the world, but try teaching an average 6 year old
child calculus. Try to force him to learn: chances are he'll crack before you
make any significant progress. There's a time and place for everything.

Besides, you think Bush has THEIR interest in mind when he thinks Iraq ?
Nigga please.

Himmler 05-15-2004 03:44 PM

Noctis, support you 100% on this issue. Fuck you muslims.

What is the point of sending a child straped with 20lbs of C4 into a cafe killing hundreds of innocent people that didn't do shit to anyone else?

Tystnad 05-15-2004 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmler
Noctis, support you 100% on this issue. Fuck you muslims.

What is the point of sending a child straped with 20lbs of C4 into a cafe killing hundreds of innocent people that didn't do shit to anyone else?

And thats a faulty expression. Fuck you Islamistic Extremists.
The people in the cafe are most likely around 95%, at the very least, muslim aswell.
Other than that, i couldnt agree more..

Himmler 05-15-2004 04:42 PM

So your saying when 9/11 happened, everyone in the WTC were muslim?

Old Reliable 05-15-2004 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmler
So your saying when 9/11 happened, everyone in the WTC were muslim?

dumbest post ever

Eight Ace 05-15-2004 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmler
Noctis, support you 100% on this issue. Fuck you muslims.

What is the point of sending a child straped with 20lbs of C4 into a cafe killing hundreds of innocent people that didn't do shit to anyone else?

The same point a shooting four children in front of their pregnant mother before shooting her...
then coming back dressed as women to shoot at people attending their funeral service a few
days later...its a muslim thang...eek:

mr.miyagi 05-15-2004 06:57 PM

Rant Runt
 
Well I see it as alot of Arab countries have always had pretty terrible rulers and leaders and with all the bad shit at the top levels, it goes down and affects the lower levels, it influences and affects the people, the lack of respect, the lowering of morals, common things you'd expect from civalised countries.......it becomes a vicious cycle and that can last centuries.

All the bad shit, the bad attitudes gets related to religion, then certain things are misunderstood, misconstrued and twisted so that various parts and sayings for example, could mean something completely different.

Everyone is capable of being peaceful, caring, creative and communicative. Its just down to the evolution of various cultures, some are more backward, violent and seem like a lost cause......but.......i tend not to see it as the person, the human themself as being less evolved, its just the 'current' culture that is fucked up.

Potential is the key word for islamic countries, you see, with a bastard like saddam gone things could get so much better but if mishandled- things could turn pretty desperate. Eventually everything need to be handed back to the people of Iraq, they need to be in full charge and they need to get saddam in a public trial as soon as possible. After that things can change so much its hard to comprehend, it'd be like starting again without all the badness, all the mistakes and hurt that the previous bastard governments made them go through.

It all depends on americas commitment to the situation, the choices they make now could impact the rest of the world for many years tocome.
Islam is actually a peaceful religion but over so many years the lack of progression in the islamic countries has meant its gotten a bad reputation, like with extremists misinterpreting parts of it and using it against others.....

Dunno if you got my drift, hope ya did..

[2ss]Panzer 05-15-2004 08:02 PM

i got ur drift and i tend to see it like that too

Zap. USMC 05-15-2004 08:13 PM

*Nods approvingly at Noctis*

Eames 05-15-2004 10:08 PM

Re: Rant Runt
 
[quote="mr.miyagi":1093c]Well I see it as alot of Arab countries have always had pretty terrible rulers and leaders and with all the bad shit at the top levels, it goes down and affects the lower levels, it influences and affects the people, the lack of respect, the lowering of morals, common things you'd expect from civalised countries.......it becomes a vicious cycle and that can last centuries.

All the bad shit, the bad attitudes gets related to religion, then certain things are misunderstood, misconstrued and twisted so that various parts and sayings for example, could mean something completely different.

Everyone is capable of being peaceful, caring, creative and communicative. Its just down to the evolution of various cultures, some are more backward, violent and seem like a lost cause......but.......i tend not to see it as the person, the human themself as being less evolved, its just the 'current' culture that is fucked up.

Potential is the key word for islamic countries, you see, with a bastard like saddam gone things could get so much better but if mishandled- things could turn pretty desperate. Eventually everything need to be handed back to the people of Iraq, they need to be in full charge and they need to get saddam in a public trial as soon as possible. After that things can change so much its hard to comprehend, it'd be like starting again without all the badness, all the mistakes and hurt that the previous bastard governments made them go through.

It all depends on americas commitment to the situation, the choices they make now could impact the rest of the world for many years tocome.
Islam is actually a peaceful religion but over so many years the lack of progression in the islamic countries has meant its gotten a bad reputation, like with extremists misinterpreting parts of it and using it against others.....

Dunno if you got my drift, hope ya did..[/quote:1093c]

read the quar'an its not a peacful religon. no religon that promotes "jihad" and any sort of killing and looting could possibly be deemed a "peacful" religon.

Madmartagen 05-15-2004 10:55 PM

Re: Rant Runt
 
[quote=Eames]
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Originally Posted by "mr.miyagi":ec285
Well I see it as alot of Arab countries have always had pretty terrible rulers and leaders and with all the bad shit at the top levels, it goes down and affects the lower levels, it influences and affects the people, the lack of respect, the lowering of morals, common things you'd expect from civalised countries.......it becomes a vicious cycle and that can last centuries.

All the bad shit, the bad attitudes gets related to religion, then certain things are misunderstood, misconstrued and twisted so that various parts and sayings for example, could mean something completely different.

Everyone is capable of being peaceful, caring, creative and communicative. Its just down to the evolution of various cultures, some are more backward, violent and seem like a lost cause......but.......i tend not to see it as the person, the human themself as being less evolved, its just the 'current' culture that is fucked up.

Potential is the key word for islamic countries, you see, with a bastard like saddam gone things could get so much better but if mishandled- things could turn pretty desperate. Eventually everything need to be handed back to the people of Iraq, they need to be in full charge and they need to get saddam in a public trial as soon as possible. After that things can change so much its hard to comprehend, it'd be like starting again without all the badness, all the mistakes and hurt that the previous bastard governments made them go through.

It all depends on americas commitment to the situation, the choices they make now could impact the rest of the world for many years tocome.
Islam is actually a peaceful religion but over so many years the lack of progression in the islamic countries has meant its gotten a bad reputation, like with extremists misinterpreting parts of it and using it against others.....

Dunno if you got my drift, hope ya did..

read the quar'an its not a peacful religon. no religon that promotes "jihad" and any sort of killing and looting could possibly be deemed a "peacful" religon.[/quote:ec285]

What about religions that started the crusades and began the construction of 'missions' that were nothing more than concentration camps for native americans? Religious books contain all sorts of violent tales and stories, but its up to the individual to interpret and apply these teachings in their lives. You dont see anyone sacraficing thier children or animals to God anymore, but that was in the bible.


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