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ninty 03-05-2005 07:04 PM
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wrong post to quote retard.
Id rather quote the wrong post, then blindly follow someones words...that is the truly retarded thing.
thats fortune cookie material

TGB! 03-05-2005 07:58 PM
HAMLETS a better example than MACBETH. HAMLETS not really heroic so much as he is justified in his desire for revenge. . .I mean we root for him because CLEARLY there are enemies around him, but hes the "hero" by virtue of circumstance - not really any actions hes done outside his need for vengeance.

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Macbeth is a hero because he never gives up even when he is completely outnumbed and when all the predictions of his death came true.
So - Hitler than (up until he offs himself) was a "her" because he never gave up and soldiered on?

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It gives the reader a sense of heroism because he always fights on.
Again - he soldiers on because he KNOWS he can not be beaten, not because hes got some inner-strength. "No man born of woman" - THAT is the ONLY reason he continues in the face of overwhelming odds, because he believes in the WITCHES prophecies. . .not his own talent.

And lets not forget the whole sanctioned murder of an innocent family and of the King he supposedly loved. . .

[quote:71213]There are no perfect heros or villians.[/quote:71213]

Sure there are. . .just because someone has REDEEMING qualities (I'm sure HITLER was good for a joke every now and then), does not cancel out overwhelming evidence to suggest otherwise about their character.

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If you read the play and weren't cheering for Macbath at the end even after all the horrible things he's done, then all Shakespeare's work was lost to you.
Ive read SHAKEY since elem-school, trust me I'm not lacking in appreciation of the work. Youre "working definition" of an anti-hero is a vague one that can EASILY be applied to individuals who are CLEARLY villianous with no remorse or desire to rectify their past deeds. . .

To the END - MacBeth stays the course. . .why? Because he "knows" he cannot be beaten and because he is WEAK. He could move BACK to the side of righteousness, but that way is MORE DIFFICULT than the current path of murder and bloodshed he has embarked on. . .he HIMSELF recognizes the villiany of his actions -

"I am in blood / Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er."

He doesnt stop, and he makes every movement to ensure that his children ascend the throne (the murder of Banquo). He COULD attain salvation and penance for his actions, but he DOESNT. . .

If thats heroic. . .

Short Hand 03-05-2005 08:23 PM
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It is like thinking everything Tripper would say about Rap is absolute truth and we should all believe his theories.
A new low for Pyro...

...You lame, pathetic loser of a fuck. I should just call you whiney nerd.
You just happened to be the example I used, which is refering to someone thinking you're the epitome of knowledge for rap. Im not saying you think you are and im saying you're not, im just saying ti is the same as thinking Akuma is the only one who would know about evil or something.

Why do you read everything as a negative...It was just the only example that came to my head at the moment dealing with that you know alot about rap and it is one of the most singled out things here as you're one of the only ones who do...unlike the othe rtopics that people kow about war and guns because that's alot of people and not just a tiny number.

Fuck id of thought my comment was a compliment, only reason it has a sarcastic overtone was because I was addressing acid or whatever and not you.
He is saying he loves you tripper, you kiwi fuck. WHY !!!!!!

Tripper 03-05-2005 10:57 PM
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It is like thinking everything Tripper would say about Rap is absolute truth and we should all believe his theories.
A new low for Pyro...

...You lame, pathetic loser of a fuck. I should just call you whiney nerd.
You just happened to be the example I used, which is refering to someone thinking you're the epitome of knowledge for rap. Im not saying you think you are and im saying you're not, im just saying ti is the same as thinking Akuma is the only one who would know about evil or something.

Why do you read everything as a negative...It was just the only example that came to my head at the moment dealing with that you know alot about rap and it is one of the most singled out things here as you're one of the only ones who do...unlike the othe rtopics that people kow about war and guns because that's alot of people and not just a tiny number.

Fuck id of thought my comment was a compliment, only reason it has a sarcastic overtone was because I was addressing acid or whatever and not you.
....The fact that we discussed differing opinions on diss tracks in the what are you listening to thread just a couple of days ago, and it ended with me displaying my points and you with no rebuttle to them makes me think that you were referencing that.
To top it off, someone posted directly after that saying something about how they thought I knew alot about rap. You never replied.

You can't blame me for thinking that you were attempting to fault that view of my "knowledge" (which to be honest, really isn't as extensive as I get the idea people think it is), I got the idea that you were bitter about that and this was a subtle way to fuck with me....It's just too much like something you would do to deny.

...and the last thing I would think it would be is a compliment, I mean coming from you, we're not exactly very chummy....


P.S ShortHand - Die.

Short Hand 03-06-2005 12:25 AM
kiwi kekekekekkekekekekeke

Tripper 03-06-2005 01:05 AM
[quote="Short Hand":3f817]kiwi kekekekekkekekekekeke[/quote:3f817]

oOo:

Oh. God. The Insults are painful. oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

CoMaToSe 03-06-2005 02:37 AM
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So - Hitler than (up until he offs himself) was a "her" because he never gave up and soldiered on?
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Hitler was a woman????

Tripper 03-06-2005 12:05 PM
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So - Hitler than (up until he offs himself) was a "her" because he never gave up and soldiered on?
Hitler was a woman????[/quote:885b6]

You fuck up x1000 more than him. It's just not funny when you try and point out others mistakes.

CoMaToSe 03-06-2005 12:08 PM
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Blase 03-06-2005 12:10 PM
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Then get the fuck out.

CoMaToSe 03-06-2005 12:12 PM
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Then get the fuck out.
heyman, I MADE this thread. you get out

Tripper 03-06-2005 12:37 PM
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Then get the fuck out.
heyman, I MADE this thread. you get out
You suck. You get out. It's our thread now.

*/me revolution*

Jin-Roh 03-06-2005 01:20 PM
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Then get the fuck out.
heyman, I MADE this thread. you get out
You suck. You get out. It's our thread now.

*/me revolution*
happy: happy:
+1

lasagna 03-06-2005 02:16 PM
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adrian shephard
dont forget Barney Calhoun
but Barney Calhoun was a good guy from the beginning

Pyro 03-06-2005 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Pyro
It is like thinking everything Tripper would say about Rap is absolute truth and we should all believe his theories.
A new low for Pyro...

...You lame, pathetic loser of a fuck. I should just call you whiney nerd.
You just happened to be the example I used, which is refering to someone thinking you're the epitome of knowledge for rap. Im not saying you think you are and im saying you're not, im just saying ti is the same as thinking Akuma is the only one who would know about evil or something.

Why do you read everything as a negative...It was just the only example that came to my head at the moment dealing with that you know alot about rap and it is one of the most singled out things here as you're one of the only ones who do...unlike the othe rtopics that people kow about war and guns because that's alot of people and not just a tiny number.

Fuck id of thought my comment was a compliment, only reason it has a sarcastic overtone was because I was addressing acid or whatever and not you.
....The fact that we discussed differing opinions on diss tracks in the what are you listening to thread just a couple of days ago, and it ended with me displaying my points and you with no rebuttle to them makes me think that you were referencing that.
To top it off, someone posted directly after that saying something about how they thought I knew alot about rap. You never replied.

You can't blame me for thinking that you were attempting to fault that view of my "knowledge" (which to be honest, really isn't as extensive as I get the idea people think it is), I got the idea that you were bitter about that and this was a subtle way to fuck with me....It's just too much like something you would do to deny.

...and the last thing I would think it would be is a compliment, I mean coming from you, we're not exactly very chummy....


P.S ShortHand - Die.
You're an intelligent person Andrew.


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