[quote="Doctor Duffy":f12ac]Patchings not a bad thing, sure, it fixes bugs and all, but half of the time you've always gotta restart the game all over. And if a game is in need of patching before it's released, I probably wont even buy it.[/quote:f12ac]

Fact of the matter is this, even on xb live people develop cheats, ive seen videos of rtcw going completly batshit on xbl with super speed players super high jumping and all this other mad shit. I don;t think these days a game exists that won't need a patch especially when it has a multiplayer component. When you think about it virtually every game needs patched before its released, just usually the patches follow later when the developers figure out how exactly the hacks are working and try to work around them.

Thats only because 10% of all computer owners have rigs that can handel games and have intelligence to use them. Most everyone i know has a console of some sort. Everyone i know has a PC, but they are to stupid to figure out how to play/ load games on a computer, much less have a computer that will handel say HL2 or Doom 3.

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