[quote="Jin-Roh":36cd6]An interesting thing to think about: There was more than just one "big bang", but many. ed:[/quote:36cd6]

Do you mean multiple big bangs during the same time? Thats theoretically impossible. However, the universe collapsing on itself and expanding again is totally legit.

Read this on that Flying Spaghetti Monster site and i thought it is quite true/humorous.

[code:9de40]I don't have a problem with religion. What I have a problem with is religion posing as science. Teach creationism in school, fine, but DON'T teach it in a science classroom. Science = the study of repeatable, observable, natural phenomena. Accepting a supernatural explanation is a cop-out. It's faith, NOT science.

Religious nuts: please stop emailing me about that. No I can't "repeat" evolution for you, so stop asking. But if you doubt the science that allows us to guess the age of the earth, then please stop using your computer, cell phones, and TV. The same methods of science that brought you those are the same methods we use for these evil evolution theories. Science is NOT truth, it's the search for truth, fact.[/code:9de40]

I havent read this entire thread. However, this is where I stand on this issue. Number one, people bring up that evolution is only a theory. Biology is a branch of the sciences where everything is a theory. Even if we were 99.999999999% sure that it was true, it would still be refered to as a theory. Now, if religious schools want to teach that kind of stuff in addition to science, that is fine. However, by no means should this be considered part of science. We can back up evolution quite a bit, there is nothing to back up that a higher being created everything. And I will tell you this, most likely, when I get around to having a kid, he/she will be sent to a public school. If I wanted him/her to be taught about religion/god, then I would have sent him/her to a religious school. Or I would have him/her go to sunday school. That is my stance. And also, intelligent design interferes/contradicts other religions such as Daoism, etc, so it would be unfair to teach it in public schools.

[quote=KTOG]Do you mean multiple big bangs during the same time? Thats theoretically impossible. However, the universe collapsing on itself and expanding again is totally legit.[/quote:8cf9b]
Nein... universe is even 90,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times larger than what we could imagine. Many big bangs in many different areas. Causing the universe to be... extremely large. eek:

Nope.

Yeah, I posted about it:

http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ins#949616

I love Nova

Evolution is about as evidence based as creationism. again, it is a question of faith.

Furthermore, the bible is not meant to be taken literally in all cases. Much of it is metaphorical. any sensible christian can tell you that.
For instance, god did not make the earth in what we would consider to be seven days. What is a day to a great, omnipotent being who has existed for all eternity and will? Seven days very easily could be biliions of years. But theres no convinving the faithless. At least while they're still alive hellfire:

oOo:

Evolution for one has historical evidence, such as the bones of Homo Habilis, and Homo Erectus. Secondly you can't get real-time evidence for evolution because no one would be alive long enough to see it happen.

Belief in evolution isn't a matter of "faith" but more a matter of logic and reason, creationism is pure faith. To say the two are one in the same is like saying cream cheese is a good substitute for concrete.

To bad that’s your interpretation, and I could guarantee you a lot of Christians would disagree with that. For the most part among people with strong Christian beliefs the Earth is only 5,000 years old.

Anyone who hides behind the cloak of faith is oOo: .

I see youve never left chream cheese to sit on the counter for three weeks...

well said stammer, evolution is the way animals adapt to their envirement, and it is based on scientific evidence. Here is just one example, I have been using this example very often in the past few days. A species of birds is living on an island. Most of them have lots and lots of feathers, but due to a genetic anomaly, 1% are born with very few feathers. As temperature rises due to global warming, the birds with more feathers will die out while birds with less feathers will survive, and reproduce. Birds that have favorable traits that enable them to adapt to the envirement will survive, and over time, millions of years possibly, the birds will be so different from their many feathered anscestors that many will claim the two have no relation to each other. Sound familiar?

Oh wait this relates to animals as well? Well no doubt some animals have evolved to a degree... Dinosaurs didnt become birds, for instance, but birds might have minor changes to there physiology over time.

we are animals.

No we're higher than animals. We...

Fuck it, this is going to turn into bible thumping, which I know you wont give a damn about. Lets just say based on your faith, you could be an animal or a higher lifeform.

Honestly, explain to me how we are higher than animals? There are five kingdoms which living things belong to, Monera, Protista, Fungi, animalia, and plantae. We belong to the kingdom animalia, therefore we can consider ourselves animals.