Originally Posted by "mr.miyagi":bad36

Well I see it as alot of Arab countries have always had pretty terrible rulers and leaders and with all the bad shit at the top levels, it goes down and affects the lower levels, it influences and affects the people, the lack of respect, the lowering of morals, common things you'd expect from civalised countries.......it becomes a vicious cycle and that can last centuries.

All the bad shit, the bad attitudes gets related to religion, then certain things are misunderstood, misconstrued and twisted so that various parts and sayings for example, could mean something completely different.

Everyone is capable of being peaceful, caring, creative and communicative. Its just down to the evolution of various cultures, some are more backward, violent and seem like a lost cause......but.......i tend not to see it as the person, the human themself as being less evolved, its just the 'current' culture that is fucked up.

Potential is the key word for islamic countries, you see, with a bastard like saddam gone things could get so much better but if mishandled- things could turn pretty desperate. Eventually everything need to be handed back to the people of Iraq, they need to be in full charge and they need to get saddam in a public trial as soon as possible. After that things can change so much its hard to comprehend, it'd be like starting again without all the badness, all the mistakes and hurt that the previous bastard governments made them go through.

It all depends on americas commitment to the situation, the choices they make now could impact the rest of the world for many years tocome.
Islam is actually a peaceful religion but over so many years the lack of progression in the islamic countries has meant its gotten a bad reputation, like with extremists misinterpreting parts of it and using it against others.....

Dunno if you got my drift, hope ya did..