[quote="Short Hand":7cdfe]this is the first political thread i have gotten really involved in in a long time here buddy. Spare me your shit. + i kept it civil. rolleyes:[/quote:7cdfe]

I dont, ive had enough of you as the rest of the forums. You dont engage in political debate because your opinion is shit, you cant vote all you can do is turn on youre fucking television. You dont live here you cant appricate our histroy, our lands, our people or anything. YOUR OPINION MEANS DICK.

[quote:7cdfe]That had to do with Noctis and egging him on cuz he mentioned my name at the start.[/quote:7cdfe]

But you said all you did was quote a picture, and no speaking.

[quote=MrLevinstein]I dont, ive had enough of you as the rest of the forums. You dont engage in political debate because your opinion is shit, you cant vote all you can do is turn on youre fucking television. You dont live here you cant appricate our histroy, our lands, our people or anything. YOUR OPINION MEANS DICK.

[quote:abf14]That had to do with Noctis and egging him on cuz he mentioned my name at the start.[/quote:abf14]

But you said all you did was quote a picture, and no speaking.[/quote:abf14]

I forget things.

[quote=MrLevinstein]I dont, ive had enough of you as the rest of the forums. You dont engage in political debate because your opinion is shit, you cant vote all you can do is turn on youre fucking television. You dont live here you cant appricate our histroy, our lands, our people or anything. YOUR OPINION MEANS DICK.

[quote:2de56]That had to do with Noctis and egging him on cuz he mentioned my name at the start.[/quote:2de56]

But you said all you did was quote a picture, and no speaking.[/quote:2de56]

actually I took 2 years of American History (University level threw grade 11 and 12..)

But you know.... that doesn't matter, I have no clue about American history......My opinion means dick.. you know what..


That is not going to stop me from voicing it mother fucker. beer:

[quote="Short Hand":f465a][quote=MrLevinstein]I dont, ive had enough of you as the rest of the forums. You dont engage in political debate because your opinion is shit, you cant vote all you can do is turn on youre fucking television. You dont live here you cant appricate our histroy, our lands, our people or anything. YOUR OPINION MEANS DICK.

[quote:f465a]That had to do with Noctis and egging him on cuz he mentioned my name at the start.[/quote:f465a]

But you said all you did was quote a picture, and no speaking.[/quote:f465a]

actually I took 2 years of American History (University level threw grade 11 and 12..)

But you know.... that doesn't matter, I have no clue about American history......My opinion means dick.. you know what..


That is not going to stop me from voicing it mother fucker. beer:[/quote:f465a]

HAVE YOU LIVED IT FIRST HAND? You can read all you want, you have to live/love in america to truely appricate it. So short hand wheres this fucking jealousy come from. Why must you be such a little cunt and hate everything that we do.

It never has stopped you from talking out of your ass. You pmed me several times during your little fiasco and i almost respected you as a human being, but i forgot how much shit you talked about america and former presidents with alheimerz. I suggest you go toa rux shop and rent some clothes and play 1920's chicago gangsters again. Either that or write your penpail in gana

I Love America. They're definally part of the reason I have the life I have now. Which is also another reason why american politics are maybe even more important to Canada, than our own elections.

wthell is this.. I hate America.. I Never said such a thing. rolleyes:

What Im getting at is, theres a certain sense of pride that you can only feel (to an extent) that youre country men did something.

For instance:Knowing that the Americans beat the British army during the revolutionary war.

Its a great feeling to know that over 229 years ago people who lived on the same soil as you fought and died for what they beleived. Its much harder to look at another countries achievements and feel the same pride knowing that they did something great.

Its harder to look at the Jews and feel pride knowing that they were surrounded by arab countries that wanted to destroy them and all they did was have a handful of settlers and a bunch of brave men with american made weapons.

Having an opinion on a country is something anyone can do. But when you live on this soil and love this country you see things from a differnt perspective.

your a fucking psychopath. eek:

How about you both shut up? Neither of you can carry out a debate without resorting to insults and certainly neither of your opinions are any more worthless than the other.

How about you guys just not create threads or stay out of any threads that have anything political in nature?

Or better yet just grow up, you act like two kids arguing over whos dad is tougher than the other.

syes, i should try and have intelligent debate with this mongrol..... (if you hadnt noticed, he decided to cme into this thread and strut his stuff. As always. I just ride it out.

[quote="Old Reliable":77e0f]um , check your facts bub, by the year 2020 or so, china will be the strongest economic power. their only problem, like us are the environmental concerns. so bascially by 2100 economic growth wont matter and governments will be too busy scrambling to clean up the planet[/quote:77e0f]

Wow, that is probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in the entirety of my life. First and foremost, China practices Communism. The entire point of Communism is equilibrium, not growth or decline. Communism effectively crushes any attempts at significant growth over a period of time.

Secondly, you are telling someone to check their "facts" in regards to some website that you Google'd that made a prediction that China would be the greatest economic power in the world by 2020. That's so dependant and subjective that it isn't even worth arguing against. However, Bush is calling for reform to NAFTA and the Chinese trade agreement signed by Clinton. Two things which economists blame for the current instability of the economy and what is referred to as the "silent Clinton/Gore recession." It's called that because Democrats did a fan-fucking-tastic job of spinning the recession on Bush despite the fact we were in recession while the debate over who won the election was still ongoing.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, is the obvious and total lack of regard for the Cost of Development. In order for a nation to prosper continuously over a period of time, it requires two things:

A) A free market (Communism does not provide for this outside their "spheres of influence")

B) Consistant development

Without development of the impoverished rural areas of China (which accounts for over 80% of the population and over 90% of land area) growth will inevitably be halted and unable to progress. China will be forced to pour endless amounts of money into social improvement programs which will delay any significant growth by a minimum of twenty years from the time this begins. China, as yet, has chosen to completely ignore its rural constituency.

Now, go check YOUR facts and stay the fuck out of my threads if you don't know what you're talking about.

it'sc TGB and Noc's new favourtie low bblow come back line, your a google newb. Honestly rolleyes:

GG OR rock:

[quote="Short Hand":aefb7]it'sc TGB and Noc's new favourtie low bblow come back line, your a google newb. Honestly rolleyes:[/quote:aefb7]

It's not a comeback, it's a relevancy. Kids who think they are instant experts on a subject because they typed "China" into their Google searchbar and read the first editorial they ran across are becoming an epidemic. Now, you stupid, ignorant, pissy little cunt - if you want to debate issues, debate issues. But when you are so thoroughly sat on your ass by people who are actually educated that all you can manage to come back with is, "Oh look at their new favorite come back the Google n00b, OLOLOOLLL!!! BOONS!!!11eleven" - then it's time to shut your uneducated ass the fuck up.

well, I would hope you would have some respect for OR, the guy is in his what... 5th yearn ow of University ?. Besides I have heard many economists make these predictions on TV, the internet etc etc all say china economy could possibly out grow the Us's within the near future, all I am seeing here Noc is you getting pissed off that maybe, just maybe, your country wont be the big kid on the block anymore, this threatens you and makes you retaliate as you did to OR.