Well you won't hear any aguements from me about the thompson except for the fact that it was expensive to produce. M1 was good, sturdy weapon but it did have a few shortcomings such as the inability to load loose rounds and that ping noise it made when the stripper got ejected with the last round and it was on the heavy side too. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Now about the Bren.... Most people underestimate the combat effectivness of the firearm in question. Ugly, maybe but to me all guns are ugly unless they design one to look like a pair of nice tits. Anywho the Bren was based on the Czech ZB26. The Bren was alot better than the BAR in alot of ways:

1). It had a 30 round box magazine
2). It's mechanical components were simple and easily understood.
3). It was reliable
4). Fired at a higher muzzle velocity which meant it was more accurate
5). The .303 SAA ball round was alot more powerful
6). The barrel can be easily changed in the field

I think the Bren stood the test of time, the British did make them up until the mid 60's and rechambered them in the 7.62 NATO round. Britan, Canada, France, India, China, Australia, New Zealand and alot of other countries adopted the Bren into sevice. Japan made a few arms that used the mechanics of the Bren.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":67538]obviously you know nothing about Russian guns.

the PPSH-41 had twice the range of the various 9mm SMGs and it was more reliable.
(sort of like the P-90 compared with modern 9mm SMGs, same principle smaller round, longer barrel)


Ever hear of the T-34 series? R. Lee Ermey himself said they were probably teh best all-round tank of WWII, and you don't talk back to the Gunny biggrin:[/quote:67538]

I still stand by my statement. What you say may be true, but it doesnt make mine wrong. The russians didnt win the winter war because of the ppsh-41 or the t-34. It was the scorched earth, endless bodies and a very nasty winter.

[quote=Innoxx]Right, since than gun is fictional I can't help you too much. It did look alot like the Czech Samopal 62 "Skorpion" though.[/quote:e9757]

Yes, it is based off the Skorpion. It was named the Klobb after Ken Lobb, a Nintendo employee.

[quote=pest]I still stand by my statement. What you say may be true, but it doesnt make mine wrong. The russians didnt win the winter war because of the ppsh-41 or the t-34. It was the scorched earth, endless bodies and a very nasty winter.[/quote:75971]

Actually during the Finnish Winter War the T-34 and PPSH-41 didn't even exist.