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guarnere 01-29-2004 11:27 PM

The Universe...
 
Me and Animal Mother are having a discussion on this...what are you viewpoints on "the universe."

Sounds like some pothead session but really...where did the universe come from...and if it was made, who made it... oOo: ...okay...discuss...

Fireal 01-29-2004 11:29 PM

Yea, how could complete NOTHINGness. No colors, no anything NOTHING.
Form into freackin M and M's those things fuckin own.

General Cobra 01-29-2004 11:32 PM

Re: The Universe...
 
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Originally Posted by guarnere
Sounds like some pothead session but really......

Pass the joint.

As far as where the universe came from thats pretty hard to say. From what I learned in school and in college most scientific research and theory points to the big bang and the process of the universe expanding then imploding on it self and starting the process over.

That's all I know. I smoked the rest a long time ago.

Fireal 01-29-2004 11:42 PM

But there was fucking NOTHING, what could have caused the explosion

General Cobra 01-29-2004 11:47 PM

[quote="Animal Mother":d6d18]But there was fucking NOTHING, what could have caused the explosion[/quote:d6d18]

That's just it no one knows if there was or wasn't anything. For all we know the universe could have been expanding and imploding millions of times.

[img]http://spaceboy.nasda.go.jp/note/shikumi/g/shi0101e.gif[/img]

But we don't know anything for sure so its all reduced to getting stoned and going "Dude where's my universe?"

strvs 01-30-2004 12:01 AM

I've never really thought about this, im intrigued.

Old Reliable 01-30-2004 12:23 AM

Getting stoned only allows for creative thought in this situation. All you need to know is in a few billion years we'll all be dead and so will the solar system. Thus, life will cease to exist forever...ever....ever....ever....ever. The universe will not recreate itself and there fore you can never live again. If you continue to repeat the fact you won't ever live again, it's quite strange isnt it? You search for the time when the universe will become reborn and you will too, but it won't. So live this life as happy as possible

SoLiDUS 01-30-2004 12:25 AM

The Universe does not require a creator nor is there a reason to assume
such because one would then have to regress infinitely, ad nauseum. No
philosopher or scientist has given a satisfactory answer to the question...
... but it might lie in Quantum Physics. Who knows, maybe we'll have an
answer in this lifetime...

General Cobra 01-30-2004 12:28 AM

Yeah there is no sense bickering over something no one here even remotely comes close to knowing. When it comes right down to it, it's all theory.

Stinger_Dude 01-30-2004 01:00 AM

Yeah sometimes I think about what it used to be like before anyhting existed. Was it white, black? No color no anything.

SoLiDUS 01-30-2004 01:23 AM

[quote="Stinger_Dude":8de48]Yeah sometimes I think about what it used to be like before anyhting existed. Was it white, black? No color no anything.[/quote:8de48]

I remember being 12, lying on my bed an afternoon and thinking about how the observable universe came to be and whether or not a creational force (ie God) was a required element for its inception: at some point, I was forcing conclusions for further investigation at such an incredible rate that I made myself dizzy and felt something "snap". What's funny is that right before this snap, I felt as though the unfathomable had become a completely crystal-clear, easily understandable fact. The feeling dissipated almost instantly and I felt tremendously sad thereafter, for a very long time. I hope to find a satisfactory answer to this and other existential questions before my conscious existence comes to an end. This is making me so melancholic...

newt. 01-30-2004 02:21 AM

How come people say there was nothing in the beginning?

I don't remembering it totally cleaely because I was drinking heavily but I heard this guy explain how earth was ''seeded''...... a rock hit our rock dumping chemicals essential for life.

enough of guessing at the past how about we focus on more today matters.

I know all that "we have to understand the past to do right in the future", "learn from our mistakes" but fucking hell man I don't wanna know if einstein was right.

Stinger_Dude 01-30-2004 04:32 AM

[quote=SoLiDUS]
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Originally Posted by "Stinger_Dude":89b92
Yeah sometimes I think about what it used to be like before anyhting existed. Was it white, black? No color no anything.

I remember being 12, lying on my bed an afternoon and thinking about how the observable universe came to be and whether or not a creational force (ie God) was a required element for its inception: at some point, I was forcing conclusions for further investigation at such an incredible rate that I made myself dizzy and felt something "snap". What's funny is that right before this snap, I felt as though the unfathomable had become a completely crystal-clear, easily understandable fact. The feeling dissipated almost instantly and I felt tremendously sad thereafter, for a very long time. I hope to find a satisfactory answer to this and other existential questions before my conscious existence comes to an end. This is making me so melancholic...[/quote:89b92]

yup, sometimes when I think about it my head starts getting all confused.

ninty 01-30-2004 09:44 AM

I donèt know if there ever was nothing. There might have always been something out there, however on a quantum scale. Perhaps something like a black hole. A black hole is so dense, one teaspoon of it weighs more than the entire world. So perhaps a miniscule part of space was surrounded by Dark Matter, which I think has been roven to exist recently. Correct me if im wrong. Anyway, this individual part of space gets denser and denser for billions of years perhaps it cannot contain itself and explodes resulting in the big bang. Or perhaps something triggered it to explode. Resulting form this is extreme heat allowing, in time, things to grow and die and create planets and such. Thats my guess, although almost no research has gone into it, so I wouldnt doubt if it was wrong.

Poseidon 01-30-2004 10:31 AM

maybe it was never actually 'created' it may have been here for ever. and aliens from other universes found it - planted a plant and a few bacteria and flew away in there little flying saucer. rock:

Bacteria over time evolved eventually into humans... thats where we come in.


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