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Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:21 PM

Bush Signs Defense Spending Bills.......wOOt!
 
WASHINGTON — "Our nation faces grave new dangers, and our nation must fully support the men and women of our military who confront these dangers on our behalf," Bush said before signing legislation providing a hefty increase in defense spending and financing for military construction projects in 2003.

The $355.4 billion defense bill, approved with overwhelming support to provide most of what Bush requested, increases spending by more than $34 billion over the previous fiscal year. "Any time the United States of America sends our youngsters into harm's way they deserve the best pay, the best training and the best possible equipment. ... It doesn't matter how long it takes to defend freedom, we'll do it. ... We have a duty to future generations of Americans to make this land secure.

the defense measure increases spending in almost every area, from weapons procurement to payroll. It includes a 4.1 percent pay raise for military personnel and almost all the $7.4 billion Bush requested to keep developing a national missile defense system.

The defense bill also provides $3.3 billion for 15 C-17 transport aircraft, $2.3 billion for two Aegis destroyers, $3.2 billion for 46 Navy F/A-18 E/F fighters and $3.5 billion to continue developing the Joint Strike Fighter. Another $249 million is allotted for Navy Tomahawk cruise missiles, a prime weapon in the Persian Gulf War.

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This news deserves a big ol' wOOt.

ninty 10-23-2002 12:26 PM

You guys spend too much money. oOo:

geRV 10-23-2002 12:28 PM

Great just what america needs more fucking missiles.


oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:28 PM

Hell they can increase military spending anytime in my book, just means I'll get paid more biggrin:

Tripper 10-23-2002 12:29 PM

Can you say.....'German re-armarment in the 1930s?'

ninty 10-23-2002 12:30 PM

Hahaha.

Very good tripper.

geRV 10-23-2002 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Can you say.....'German re-armarment in the 1930s?'

Well maybe if that dumb fucking hick thats called the "president" didn't spend so many hundred million carpet bombing the middle east and acheiving the result of making a few big holes in the sand, they wouldn't need more missiles.

bush = oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

This isn't defence, its fucking paranoia.

10-23-2002 12:32 PM

If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Can you say.....'German re-armarment in the 1930s?'

Well maybe if that dumb fucking hick thats called the "president" didn't spend so many hundred million carpet bombing the middle east and acheiving the result of making a few big holes in the sand, they wouldn't need more missiles.

bush = oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

its not just for missles numnuts. hake:

geRV 10-23-2002 12:33 PM

[quote="Founding_Law":935b7]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol[/quote:935b7]

Why is america facing some kind of missile shortage or something?

geRV 10-23-2002 12:33 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":af502]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Can you say.....'German re-armarment in the 1930s?'

Well maybe if that dumb fucking hick thats called the "president" didn't spend so many hundred million carpet bombing the middle east and acheiving the result of making a few big holes in the sand, they wouldn't need more missiles.

bush = oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

its not just for missles numnuts. hake:[/quote:af502]

Yeah its for "defence" (read: invasion) equipment.

ninty 10-23-2002 12:34 PM

I think Canada is the one facing the missle shortage.

Can you guys lend us some?

geRV 10-23-2002 12:35 PM

Re: Bush Signs Defense Spending Bills.......wOOt!
 
[quote="Pfc.Green":76e31]We have a duty to future generations of Americans to make this land secure.

[/quote:76e31]

Well heres a little soloution for that. STOP STICKING YOUR FUCKING NOSE IN EVERYONES BUSINESS.

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:35 PM

Well I see it this way, Clinton was in the process of castrating the military, Bush is just putting this back were they should be and, adding alittle more.

P.S. Founding, the Canucks did'nt burn Washington the Brits did.

Zoner 10-23-2002 12:38 PM

Yeah, could you loan us a few missles?

I think some guys have a grocery bag full of bottle rockets and cherry bombs at CFB Petawawa, but that's about it. biggrin:

The West Edmonton mall has more submarines than the Canadian military... oOo:


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Tripper 10-23-2002 12:41 PM

[quote:9ccd7]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol[/quote:9ccd7]

How about spending it on the less fortunate? Why not give the money to help people in the US...There are sure a shitload of people that could use that money....But oh No! Lets make like Hitler and arm like the US is going into WW3!

Low spark 10-23-2002 12:41 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":02248]Hell they can increase military spending anytime in my book, just means I'll get paid more biggrin:[/quote:02248]

Don't get your hopes up.. The money will be ate up by the Military/Industrial machine that the U.S. has created. It's to bad. that we feel that we have to spend so much for defense.

geRV 10-23-2002 12:42 PM

I do not understand why the fuck this makes people happy. If anything it cements the fact that bush is nothing but a little war mongor.

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:43 PM

Hey as I said, increased budget= increased pay for me and the rest of the military cool: 4.1% increase.

geRV 10-23-2002 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
[quote:a64af]If you have the money why not spend it. most every country hates us so we most be prepared. who knows when canada will burn our capital again.lol

How about spending it on the less fortunate? Why not give the money to help people in the US...There are sure a shitload of people that could use that money....But oh No! Lets make like Hitler and arm like the US is going into WW3![/quote:a64af]

I have to agree, america has more prominent problems than "defense" but all this money gets thrown away for missiles and ships and other shit.

Tripper 10-23-2002 12:45 PM

Yeah, and we said your leader pretty much sucks... cool:

geRV 10-23-2002 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Yeah, and we said your leader pretty much sucks... cool:


biggrin:

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:45 PM

Maybe the "poor" should get jobs, they seem to have enough time to stand by the side of the road with a sign and ask for my money.

geRV 10-23-2002 12:46 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":04615]Maybe the poor should get jobs, they seem to have enough time to stand by the side of the road with a sign and ask for my money.[/quote:04615]

Yeah just walk anywhere in any country ask for a job and you automatically get one. If it were that simple no-one anywhere in the world would be jobless.

Bleed_4_Me 10-23-2002 12:47 PM

Re: Bush Signs Defense Spending Bills.......wOOt!
 
Hmmm. A little hostile, aren't ya? The US has never stuck their nose in!! They were ALWAYS invited!! cool:

geRV 10-23-2002 12:48 PM

Re: Bush Signs Defense Spending Bills.......wOOt!
 
[quote="Bleed_4_Me":3ccf7]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Gerard
Well heres a little soloution for that. STOP STICKING YOUR FUCKING NOSE IN EVERYONES BUSINESS.[/quote:3ccf7]

Hmmm. A little hostile, aren't ya? The US has never stuck their nose in!! They were ALWAYS invited!! cool:

Little fucking pissed off more like. cry:

Tripper 10-23-2002 12:50 PM

[quote:e08c2]Maybe the poor should get jobs, they seem to have enough time to stand by the side of the road with a sign and ask for my money. [/quote:e08c2]

Yeah they sure do...Who the fuck wouldn't? What are they supposed to do, go back to their nice home and have a fucking Mocha Frapaccino? I don't think so....And I hardly think they can just go up to any McDonalds and ask for a job when they smell 5 years old, and look like they slept in a fusion of body juices. Yeah, they'll get heaps of job offers....

ninty 10-23-2002 12:53 PM

The thing with homeless here is that most of them have jobs, but there si no where affordable for them to live. The average house here costs $200,000. Most people can't afford that on getting 6 dollars/hour at McDonalds.

Judas 10-23-2002 12:53 PM

Re: Bush Signs Defense Spending Bills.......wOOt!
 
[quote="Pfc.Green":918d2]WASHINGTON — "Our nation faces grave new dangers, and our nation must fully support the men and women of our military who confront these dangers on our behalf," Bush said before signing legislation providing a hefty increase in defense spending and financing for military construction projects in 2003.

The $355.4 billion defense bill, approved with overwhelming support to provide most of what Bush requested, increases spending by more than $34 billion over the previous fiscal year. "Any time the United States of America sends our youngsters into harm's way they deserve the best pay, the best training and the best possible equipment. ... It doesn't matter how long it takes to defend freedom, we'll do it. ... We have a duty to future generations of Americans to make this land secure.

the defense measure increases spending in almost every area, from weapons procurement to payroll. It includes a 4.1 percent pay raise for military personnel and almost all the $7.4 billion Bush requested to keep developing a national missile defense system.

The defense bill also provides $3.3 billion for 15 C-17 transport aircraft, $2.3 billion for two Aegis destroyers, $3.2 billion for 46 Navy F/A-18 E/F fighters and $3.5 billion to continue developing the Joint Strike Fighter. Another $249 million is allotted for Navy Tomahawk cruise missiles, a prime weapon in the Persian Gulf War.

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This news deserves a big ol' wOOt.[/quote:918d2]

Do you pay taxes ?

Having more money taken from me so that we can buy more underwear for soldiers doesnt seem all that great. For the love of god when is the last time we were considered to be inferior to another nation, and yet we are spending more on defense ?????


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Well heres a little soloution for that. STOP STICKING YOUR FUCKING NOSE IN EVERYONES BUSINESS.

Amen !!!!!

Pfc.Green 10-23-2002 12:54 PM

Well think what you want, our military personell are not paid very much, they should be. And thats the main reason this bill is good, hell you Canucks should be concerned the way your military is dissappering you wont be able to defend yourselves from an attack by four fat eskimos armed with rocks.

Bleed_4_Me 10-23-2002 12:55 PM

That's only a small portion of your taxes. A lot goes to pay for those goddamn politicians retirement funds!!!

geRV 10-23-2002 12:56 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":b55db]Well think what you want, our military personell are not paid very much, they should be. And thats the main reason this bill is good, hell you Canucks should be concerned the way your military is dissappering you wont be able to defend yourselves from an attack by four fat eskimos armed with rocks.[/quote:b55db]

Maybe because theyre not as paranoid as you lot? I can't think of any countrys that have a grudge against canada.

Low spark 10-23-2002 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
I do not understand why the fuck this makes people happy. If anything it cements the fact that bush is nothing but a little war mongor.

Believe me it doesn't may everyone happy. But in America..the war machine means big money for a few..creates jobs for a few more... the senators & congressmen know it they want votes people have to have jobs, even if its a porkbarrel miltary project. And if the politicians want more money for the campaigns the need to make sure that the few are lining their pockets... As for as Bush being a Warmonger, that's funny, he's to busy creating a environment of hate in the world so the defense budget can be justified to actually start a war.

Bleed_4_Me 10-23-2002 12:59 PM

You can't blame Bush for creating the hate. He just perpetuates it!

Tripper 10-23-2002 12:59 PM

^^^This guy knows what he's talking about...

Bleed_4_Me 10-23-2002 01:03 PM

Yeah, I'm one of those people that benefit because I'm a DoD contractor. LOL. I WANT TO KEEP MY JOB!!! oOo:

Low spark 10-23-2002 01:12 PM

[quote="Bleed_4_Me":f11ee]Yeah, I'm one of those people that benefit because I'm a DoD contractor. LOL. I WANT TO KEEP MY JOB!!! oOo:[/quote:f11ee]

Yeah, I understand. But I still think we spend to much on defense... Put the money into the space program... Social programs... Education....

Bleed_4_Me 10-23-2002 01:13 PM

Valid point. BUT I STILL NEED A JOB!!!

Low spark 10-23-2002 01:17 PM

[quote="Bleed_4_Me":511af]Valid point. BUT I STILL NEED A JOB!!![/quote:511af]

Think about it, if we became became serious about space exploration. The amount of jobs created would be endless.

ninty 10-23-2002 01:31 PM

But how much money will it take to get serious about space exploration.

To get serious, you will need to definitley find an alternative source of power for getting places. The space shuttles and not efficient in the financial area.

Space exploration now is very expensive. Until newer and cheaper technology is avaliable, exploration at this time is a little out of the question.


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