Should the U.S. invade Iraq? (all opinions welcome)
 

Okay, ladies and gents, I am making a speech in my speech class about why the U.S. should wage war against Iraq in a few weeks and I would like to hear your opinions on if you agree or not. I think the U.S. should invade Iraq in order to:

A) Remove Saddam Hussein from power

B) Inspect Iraq (very closely) once more to find weaps. of m. destruction, including biological, chemical, and nuclear (not likely), and destroy any that are found.

C) To protect Americans and any of our allies from any more acts of terror that Hussein has been involved in.

It has been believed that Hussein had a factor in the WTC 93' bombing and the OKC bombing. This is just theory but there are many incriminating pieces of evidence that Hussein and/or Iraq had a hand in these two acts. Of course we all know Hussein was behind most of the car and embassy bombings in the past.

If So-Damn-Insane does in fact have weaps. of m. destruction, then I believe he will indefinitely try to attack the U.S. He has not done so in the past because all of the previous SCUD missiles he had in the past did not have the ability to travel from Iraq to the U.S. I don't know if Iraq has any nuclear-capable submarines, but I would have to guess that he doesn't, otherwise he would have attacked.

Let's say that Hussein has been telling the truth and does not have any WMD in his possession. If we invade Iraq and find out that he has no WMD, then yes it is VERY bad publicity on the U.S.'s part and I think that's why we have not done so already. But think about it, if we assume that Hussein has no WMD, then we are putting millions of American citizen's lives at grave danger. Hussein is evil enough to want to kill millions of innocents. Hell, he has already done that to his own people. I think that's pretty sick, and I sure don't wanna be a wuss about it and not take action to prevent Iraq from causing any more problems.

Finally, I would like it if everybody expressed their opinions on this matter seriously without any degrading of the U.S. or Canada or England or any country and without flaming anybody for their own opinions. I wrote this because this is work, and I take my work seriously, so no flaming please.

I believe we should, Saddam needs to be removed. I seriously believe he is a true danger to the world.

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The thing is, we now know N. Korea HAS WMD. Why is no one paying attention to them? They are part of the "Axis of Evil", but Bush has said nothing abot them. Why just Iraq? I doubt Hussein will try anything without being first provoked. If the US invades, I believe he will unleash all he can. If they don't, I don't think he has any real way to attack. His current missles can reach as far a Israle. What about N. Korea? They could be further along in their production of WMD, and i'm sure the koreans have more technology, money to spend on military since ALL money goes towards it, and are more capeable of striking at America.

I don;t understand why N. Korea gets off, while everyone wants to kill saddam.

Until proof is brought fourth that Saddam is a true threat, invasion is not acceptable. An invasion could be compared to Germany invading France, or Iraq invading Kuwait. It just doesn't make sense.

Maybe we should get some sold proof on Iraq, and look into the korean situation. The koreans seem to be a lot easier to talk to. Would the US go for an invasion of Korea? I doubt it. Casualties in another korean war would be 10 or 100 times the amount of iraq. Perhaps that is why the government ignores koreaand focuses on iraq.

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True Ninty, N. Korea does pose a threat (IMO) and the U.S. should deal with them, but my speech is just on Iraq, so I did not mention N. Korea. If the U.S. removes Hussein with military force, many other neighboring (neighbouring) countries will also benefit, as innocent Arabs have been slayed by his command (as previously stated).

Do I think the U.S. should attack right now? No. I think the U.S. should attempt for the final time to negotiate with Hussein, but as we know Hussein will not comply with our's or the U.N.'s requests. He has lied time and time again about what he has and what he doesn't have. He continually tries to sway from U.N. inspections.

Wage war on a country "suspected" of having weapons of mass destruction, and who is suspected of being involved in several terrorist acts? Right. That's a helluva good plan folks.

Lets get serious here, Saddam Hussein controls a large portion of the worlds oil reserves. Instead of investing billions in alternative forms of energy, we're going the tried and true route of getting our national threats out of the way.

Yea Saddam is a threat - he's so much of a threat that he was trounced in the Gulf War, with only a SINGLE American casualtie, and is now working with the UN to try and get support to keep America out of it's business and succumbing to American pressure.

I'm a conservative-Republican but lets get real here, we all know what this is about and it isnt about protecting the American people from someone who so far has only been reumoured about "endorsing" Terrorism.

Actually Ed, America lost 367 Soldiers, Marines, and Aviators.

Iraq has never made an unprovoked attack against the USA.
The only time they fought was Kuwait, a war where america had no right to be there.

The fact is simple america wouldnt delcare war in ww2 because it was europe's problem (untill they got attacked)

yet Iraq attacks Kuwait, somethien that has nothing to do with america aside from the american greed for oil and boom the yanks are at war with Iraq.

Hell go for it then you can really find out it Saddam has nuclear, bio and chemical weapons. first hand!

and by the way. doesnt it seem like major hypocracy that america will attack iraq for "allegedly" having weapons of mass destcrution when its a known and admitted fact that america is constantly producing weapons of the same and greater power. I say the UN should attack USA for making weapons of mass destruction.

Neighbours benefiting form it I doubt very much.

Turkey said it had lost 40 billion dollars since the gulf war because the amount of trucks crossing the border dropped from 2000 to 200. All the countries around Iraq get oil form them. If war starts it’s going to make it a lot harder to get oil. There are a lot of countries that will not support a war because of the trade between their country and Iraq. Many of the people in Iraq don't want a regime change anyway. These people have grown up with him all their life. Not everyone welcomes change.

As for me mentioning N. Korea, I was just making the point that the two countries are not that different in the view of the US but they are definitely being treated like it. Doesn't make sense.

I once read that China had something to do with Osama Bin Laden once. ;) You guys should check out a very goofy book called Unrestricted Warfare.

Says here 269 soldiers lost their lives in Iraq - I'd be interested to know how many of those were due to enemy fighting.

And the fact of the matter is that America doesn't have a right to force "change" on another country, but assisting Kuwait is a justifiable reason to intervenen in the Persian GUlf. Here there is no real justifiable reason other than the presumption that there are WMD in Iraq. That's it. We're going to war because we suppose someone is stockpiling weapons for a "over-in-a-second" war with Iraq, and we suspect them of being involved in acts of terrorism against America. What middle eastern country HASNT had dealings with suspected terrorists - I mean really. It just so happens that the man with the oil has gotta go. Which is funny. America will find a suitable puppet to replace Saddam, implant a occupational force, and we'll have ourselves all the oil we can handle.

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Saddam ain't gonna do sh!t, he's too comfy in his eight presidential palaces. Attacking anyone would bring the world down around him.

toten they are asking if bush is gonna attack, everyone knows saddam aint gonna attack un provoked. like i said

un needs to declare war on the USA for making weapons of mass destruction if anyone.

N.Korea is actually not a threat anymore, its starting to open it up if any of you didnt bother reading reliable sources of news. S.Korea is already making peace talks there.

US occupies middle-east nations.... terrorists attack US interests stating that they want US out of middle east...... US suffers worst terrorist attack on record.... decides to invade another country in middle east and receives domestic support.

US foreign policy is that they want nations of the middle-east to be run by democratic governments preferred by the US. these nations have never known democratic rule and will back even the worst dicator rather than suffer this sort of interference by the US.

so far US has pretty much gone to war against military forces..... once they invade a middle-east nation they will find out what "going to war with a country" actually means. you cannot invade a nation and fight the general population with military personnel..... its that simple..... everyone dies.

and as for these reasons to invade..... theres no proof that he has nuclear weapons.... theres no indication that if he did have them he would attack another nation with them. US fails both those points as a nation with nuclear weapons who has adopted a strike-first policy.

Absolutely everyone here, every single one of you guys, is talking out of their respective asses. NONE of you, myself included, knows what's REALLY going on in Iraq. No one but the highest ranking military officials and world leaders knows the real scoop.

Everything you know about the situation has been documented by the media and unclassified "experts" in the subject. There has to be so much classified information on this whole thing, that no one outside the government/military could possibly know the real story.

This isn't an attack on any people who've posted...anyone who knows me from this board knows that I respect anybody's opinion. I just feel that we citizens of the world know about 0.1% of the real story here.

Personally, I don't want to know the real story. I have a feeling that it's more horrific than any of us could imagine.


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This is what I do know:

I work with a man who came here from Baghdad. He hates Hussein. His family hates Hussein. Most of his countrymen hate Hussein.

"Torture would be too good for him, for all he's done to us. He needs to die..." he has told me.

But they dislike the US for the sanctions imposed on Iraq. He understands why we're doing it, but the citizens of the country are the ones who are really hurting from it. Do you think Hussein is affected by the sanctions? No way. He's sitting pretty in a plush palace smoking expensive cigars. The US sanctions are really hurting the people, making it harder for them to resist their "leader".

So should we attack Iraq? I say yes...but not an all-out war. That would be ridiculous. There is no need for it. We are superior in all aspects of warfare. It would be total overkill. I think we should send in a covert squad, kill Hussein as he sleeps and walk away. Don't think we couldn't do it because we all know we could. Christ, the F-117A flew for 10 years before the public even thought about stealth technology. We've got weapons we don't even know we have...

Other than that I agree with Zoner91...we don't know shit.

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":a7ca4]Iraq has never made an unprovoked attack against the USA. [/quote:a7ca4]
Did Germany ever make an unprovoked attack against the USA before 1942? Nooooo.

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I love all things Canadian. Hell, I've got family in Toronto!

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I love all things Canadian. Hell, I've got family in Toronto![/quote:4c84a]

Well there you go. If we invade Canada you won't have to worry about stopping at the border and waiting in line to enter the country when want to visit.

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Don't blame the U.S. sanctions for hurting the people, blame Saddam, he's the one hoarding the sh!t that gets through. If he truly cared about his people, they would not suffer because of sanctions.

lets destroy Iraq!!!!

I'm all for it.

Just give other countries chance to dig for oil in the flat plain formerly known as baghdad

well i for one was almost directly quoting an independant journalist who has spent the last decade in Iraq and the middle-east.

No point in invading Iraq, why don't they just put a bullet in Saddam's head?

Which one?