What do you consider an elite clan?
 

I've recently been poking round being in a clan. All the clans claim "only elite players" so I go to there server only to step in n00b war 2002! There blastin shotties left and right, mid-air jumping, and shooting rockets outta there ass! So I don't know what clans consider "elite" but it's defitnetly not that.

an elite clan is when it takes months for u to join

well, I wouldn't know about where we stand compared to others (the LRRPs have not played another clan in ages while we were busy with inter-division competition)
but as far as tactics go we use teamwork as much as possible. bunny-hopping shotgun Rambo types don't last very long.

an elite clan u might wanna look in to is EcE although they have been accussed of cheating, and {TsL} is chock full of good people ;) but if u look hard enough and goto places like http://www.teamwarfare.com and look for the top clans, those are the really good clans

And any clan with less than 2 good shotty whores is also, how did you put it, noobz. You have to be a newb clan if you think you can survive without shotties and in some cases a rocket launcher. It's a necessary weapon when your fighting against other shotty bunny hoping newb whores. So get a clue.

You go to our servers and then come in here and claim we are bunny hoping shotty newbz. Your basically saying your a newb. Not that you have visited our server.. Just saying.

bunny hopping with a shitgun suuuuuuuure is handy on those realism ladders biggrin: biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

[quote="Mr_nStuff":0a5ca]And any clan with less than 2 good shotty whores is also, how did you put it, noobz. You have to be a newb clan if you think you can survive without shotties and in some cases a rocket launcher. It's a necessary weapon when your fighting against other shotty bunny hoping newb whores. So get a clue.

You go to our servers and then come in here and claim we are bunny hoping shotty newbz. Your basically saying your a newb. Not that you have visited our server.. Just saying.[/quote:0a5ca]

Eh hem....STFU n00b!

I don't think it really takes skill to use a shotgun. I was in a server a while ago and some kid was rackin up kills, so I asked him how long he'd been playing his response was "4 days" I could see he was using a shotgun. So I say "you got some skills, show me what you can do on an SMG" he went from 20kills-4 deaths, to 25 kills-34 deaths. Just goes to show ya....

DCFA Clan
 

While others may not view us as "elite", we have been around for quite some time. It all started when I created and commanded the 501st PIR in January. The 501st stayed together through April, but eventually fell apart due to lack of participation. Thus, DCFA was born out of the dedicated few that remained of the 501st PIR.

We first started as DFA (Death From Above), but then realized there were a few more DFA's out there. We then changed to DCFA (Death Comes From Above).

We have a rather lengthy recruitment process that takes on average 3-4 weeks to complete. This involves playing with us and learning and utilizing our tactics. Most importantly, though, you can't be too much of an ass :-)

Anyways, here is our site: http://members.rogers.com/deathcomesfro ... index.html

Check it out, and send us an e-mail if you are interested. Our server information is on there as well.

Real Elite players can own you witha Kar. I still suck at the Kar, but ive watched some people do amazing things with a rifle, IMO that makes you elite.

Not shotty, or Rockets either!

[quote="Sgt Stryker":b36e0]bunny hopping with a shitgun suuuuuuuure is handy on those realism ladders biggrin: biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:[/quote:b36e0]Yeah.. Realism is ghey.. And all you need is a good machine gun and very little skill with realism and your set.. Though, especially with defense, it helps to have the skillz w/ realism.

Which brings me to this.
[quote="Airborne Butters":b36e0]Eh hem....STFU n00b!

I don't think it really takes skill to use a shotgun.[/quote:b36e0]It helps to have skillz with the shotgun when your going up against skilled shotty whores.. Remember that.... All of you bizatches remember my words.

Oh..

It all comes down to how you play, stock or realism.
With stock everyone complains about the shotties.
Well guess what, with stock weapons the shotgun is a very effective weapon on some maps.
It's the same situation when mg and smg players complain about about the snipers. The snipers could say the same thing about the MG's.
MG's take no skill it just spray and pray.
Complaining gets you no where so STFU and just play.

There is a difference between individual elitism and clan elitism. Fact is, clans want to win ladder matches, so they use whatever weapon gives them the best chance to win. Which is shotty/rocket in classic, and mg in realism. You wont find much Mauser toting *I am God* behavior in clans because thats not what is important.

To find the so called elite clans, look on the ladders, and find the ones who are consistently winning matches. They may not have individual elite players, but obviously know what it takes to win matches. Those are also the clans who are likely near the point of implosion. Because dominant clans have problems with individual egos.

If you are really looking to join a clan, I wouldnt look for a so called elite clan, but instead find a clan server and play there for a while. If you find that you like the players, their style, their attitudes, etc. then that may be the clan for you. It will sure beat being an under-appreciated cog in a clan monster. cool:

Good post Thermo :-)

I usually use the rifle in clan matches, just because I feel more comfortable with it than spraying the SMG or MG around the map. But, I usually receive more deaths than anyone else, but that's besides the point...

Thermo pretty much hit the nail on the head -- look for people you are comfortable playing with. There's no point in joining a clan and then end up hating every member in it.

I mean, look who I ended up with...

I hope no other DCFA members saw that :-)

Hehehehehe.

I would personally never look for an "elite" clan in the first place. Really, who gives a flying rat's ass about which clan is at the top of OGL or TWL or whatever other ladders. There are plenty of clans who are inactive on ladders or just don't play on them yet that are better than those clans. Or sometimes, you have clans that maybe aren't better, but contained a few more skilled players.

I personally run the 203rd Airborne. We try to take an atypical approach to the whole clan thing. I take my time. Although we are currently registered on OGL and TWL, we won't be joining ladders just yet. We're waiting until we have a group of talented and well acclimated soldiers. But above everything, we want our people to have fun, and for others to have fun with our people. Also, unlike most other clans, a code of public conduct is severely enforced. None of the running around cursing and screaming 'NOOBS!!' will be seen from the 203rd without severe repercussions.

So really, Butters, the best advice I could give in regards to clans is to sit down and really decide what you wish to achieve by joining.

If you want a little fame a glory, you can join a top-rung clan and tote their pre-fab respected tag around different servers and watch the 14 year olds ooh and aah at your great gaming accomplishment.

If you want to have fun playing the game, go find a smaller clan. One that isn't on a ladder or is working their way to prepare for one. With these clans you'll usually find a group of guys or girls that are more interested in logging into a server and having fun. If you are interested in this side, just PM me. I'm not saying join the 203rd necessarily, but I know a few other small clans that would love another member who shares their view. Not saying the 203rd wouldn't like to have you, just that I always like to provide options =)

Yeah, pretty much. I'm not so bad with a rifle myself...

If the whole clan uses a Mauser and they kick your ass royally then they're an elite clan. If you win numerous ladders with 'non-n00b' tactics then its an elite clan. If they have fun while owning your ass then they're an elite clan.

stock TDM is based on shotguns. smgs, rockets and sniper rilfes. also depends on the map. "l337" clans IMO have players skilled with a variety of weapons. No one uses rifle in stock matches though. Last time i saw it used was a few months ago by CrabClaw =KaoS= in a OBJ match. He used it in an effective manner on the Hunt.

when you get to the top ten on the ladders anyone can win on anyday. the "l337" clans find away to win..whether its changing tactics on the fly..substituting players between rounds etc...tactics play an integral part of a winning team. You can have average players lead a team to victory due to superior tactics and decision making, over a talented team of shotty whores.

Butters my advice to you is decide what style of game best satisfies your quarter...realism or stock...obj or tdm...then find a TEAM (not clan) that best reflects your ideals and personality.... cool:

I have mohaa full and spearhead but i still play mohaa demo :P
on demo good clans are:

UnS: Ginsu, Unseen
-(sic)-: Numan, Taker, seif Al deim and I
Cum: Cumshot, Cobra, mizike etc...good but not awesome
MoR: Wallhackers so who cares?
FuK: BlackPole(masta), Air, slimemim

Elite:
K2S: Trax, Virus, Lockdown, Syenergy, War
Tek9: most of em are awesome but i believe there is a secret we dont know about...well we know but we dont tell *cough*WH*cough*

And for those interested in tryin out for sic just pm me on demo:
-(sic)- Heretic~666
1- You must be a sniper
2- Be sure you're good enuff before askin. (dont waste our time)
3- You must be online at least 4 days a week, mostly durin the evening
4- We do 3 tryouts before takin some in....except for some people we know are good.

GL! :)

I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:

[quote="{-BaH-} The High Kid":cbea4]I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:[/quote:cbea4]

shotties are essential in stock TDM...not in CKR realism. no one uses them. Realism is great for rifles...one shot one kill.... happy:

You mean like a long range, super accurate shotgun???? ed:

[quote="{-BaH-} The High Kid":66588]I only really know about 1 thing here, the Mauser. Its really the only weapon I use. {-BaH-} is Mauser based, you don't get in unless you are handy with a rifle and if someone gets in, he/she must complete 7 days of Mauser training. I wouldn't consider us elite, even though there have been people trying to get in for months ; we are not in any ladders but we have fun when we play and thats why people want in. To the guy who said Shotties were essential........Come to {-BaH-} Forlorn Hope and you will get owned up noob, by anyone there with a Mauser, {-BaH-} or not ! evil:[/quote:66588]

dude, where did Forlorn Hope go to?
I tried to get on yesterday and it was like it just died.

like you said its great when you own with the mauser, especially that one time some n00bs accused you me and some other guy of cheating.

PS. When are you guys going to compete, I want to get you in a match with the LRRPs. (or are you more of a club than a clan)

guess its a clan that has fun kicking ppl...
 

ours isnt an elite clan, it is too lose, exept 4 the ocasion party, where we fight each other, we r not really involved in comps, we r not in any ladder comps... we r just 4 fun...
biggrin: M16:
fire1: M16:

http://www.the-fog.net biggrin:

KaoS, DOA, POAAC (Not leet, just cool), and SS

yah mostly everyone in our clan uses the rifle and we all pretty good i usually rack up round 60 kills with axis rifle in a 20 minute tdm

LOL Now that I think of it, no clan, no club just a party! wOOt! Crow is BSing and I have no clue where it is! But fear not, if it isn't up by tomorrow we will get a new server with more people I think. When are we going to compete? LOL when we get a steady stream of players and we get up off of our lazy arses!!!! Ill see ya soon on Forlorn Hope of some type!

It's been far too long since I played there.
I'll bring some LRRPs with me next time.