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Von Paulus 01-02-2003 03:51 AM

Bowling for Columbine
 
Wow! What an amazing film...

First off, let me make it clear that this is not a bowling movie. Bowling fans will be disappointed if they come expecting to see a number of exciting bowling maneuvers.

It is also not a movie about the Columbine tragedy, although that sad event is revisited briefly in the film.

The title is taken from the little-known fact that the two killers, Dylan and Eric, were supposed to be in bowling class at Columbine High School on the morning of the murders. At least five witnesses, including their teacher, told the police that they saw one or both boys that morning at the bowling alley for their first hour class. Some school and law enforcement officials later maintained that the two boys skipped that class that morning yet no other witness has come forward to say they saw Eric and Dylan anywhere else that morning.

One reason the film is called "Bowling For Columbine" is that, after the massacre, all the pundits and experts started blaming all the usual suspects that are wheeled out for blame whenever a school shooting occurs—evil rock music (in this case Marilyn Manson), violent video games, and bad parenting.

My point is that those scapegoats make about as much sense as blaming bowling. After all, Eric and Dylan were bowlers, they took bowling class at Columbine—was bowling responsible for their evil deeds? If they bowled that morning, did the bowling trigger their desire to commit mass murder? Or, if they skipped their bowling class that morning, did that bring on the massacre? Had they bowled, that may have altered their mood and prevented them from picking up their guns. As you can see, this is all nonsense, just as it is nonsense to blame Marilyn Manson.

The title suggests other metaphors for the state of the nation which are best left to the viewers and their imagination.

Go see it everyone! It is truly an amazing piece of documentary film-making...

01-02-2003 05:23 AM

thanks for the review, although bad parenting does have its part in the childrens lives because its apperent the parents were not talking to their children enough.

Bazooka_Joe 01-02-2003 10:06 AM

Was this like an inde film? TV documentry? Theatre? Where did you see it?

hamsters united 01-02-2003 10:31 AM

yea i saw it too...very cool documentary (prolly only seen in small independant theaters) Check some footage here: http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/ Michael Moore always cracks me up...dunno if anyone ever saw his TV-Nation program but u should definitely check it out...

Old Reliable 01-02-2003 10:39 AM

i don't think it is playing in the US anymore

Rocket 01-03-2003 02:22 PM

Re: Bowling for Columbine
 
[quote="Von Paulus":a22f2]...At least five witnesses, including their teacher, told the police that they saw one or both boys that morning at the bowling alley for their first hour class. ...[/quote:a22f2]

What the heck was their teacher doing at the bowling alley during first period?

EasyTrick2.0 01-03-2003 02:37 PM

Wait... was the whole movie about making white people look bad? Because I just watched some clips, and frankly the movie looks like a piece of shit.

Chango 01-03-2003 03:11 PM

[quote="EasyTrick2.0":e2e77]Wait... was the whole movie about making white people look bad? Because I just watched some clips, and frankly the movie looks like a piece of shit.[/quote:e2e77]

i'm sure they have some of the homie gangsta violence in there,

and its a piece of shit because it has white people shooting guns or something?

[DAS REICH] Blitz 01-03-2003 03:14 PM

hmm so its not playing anymore?

The ED! Foundation 01-03-2003 03:26 PM

Bowling For Columbine is a VERY uneven movie. There are some parts that you just nod your head to, and other parts you want to kick Michael Moore in the balls for being so god damn manipulative.

Yes the part with him going into KMart and getting them to stop selling handgun bullets was nice, yea him "ambushing" Dick Clark (who owns restaurants that participate in a program called Welfare To Work [and I work with people on this program, the thing DOESNT work], and enjoys tax breaks while paying shit wages), and Charlton Heston (revered leader of the NRA) - but it all felt like a bleeding heart documentary that didn't give any answers, and just pointed the finger.

The CARTOON though was funny as shit.

And yes it is playing in America. Where else in the world is anyone gonna want to watch this thing.

ninty 01-03-2003 03:34 PM

Re: Bowling for Columbine
 
[quote=Rocket]
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Originally Posted by "Von Paulus":eb41d
...At least five witnesses, including their teacher, told the police that they saw one or both boys that morning at the bowling alley for their first hour class. ...

What the heck was their teacher doing at the bowling alley during first period?[/quote:eb41d]

Bowling was a class. Probably for Phys Ed.

hamsters united 01-03-2003 04:54 PM

Re: Bowling for Columbine
 
[quote=ninty9]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Von Paulus":66d3a
...At least five witnesses, including their teacher, told the police that they saw one or both boys that morning at the bowling alley for their first hour class. ...

What the heck was their teacher doing at the bowling alley during first period?

Bowling was a class. Probably for Phys Ed.[/quote:66d3a]

that in itself is pretty disturbing

ninty 01-03-2003 05:15 PM

I went bowling for phys ed while I was in High School.

We got to choose out of a number of "sports" about 5 per semester. We would go bowling for a week and then ice hockey, basketball etc.

Jedi Marksman 01-03-2003 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
I went bowling for phys ed while I was in High School.

We got to choose out of a number of "sports" about 5 per semester. We would go bowling for a week and then ice hockey, basketball etc.

I did archery myself. Can someone explain how a kid can stockpile weapons and homemade explosives in his garage and room without his parents knowing? hake:

ninty 01-04-2003 03:00 AM

Nope.

I intend to be a responsible parent.

01-04-2003 03:16 AM

i make bombs and then throw them in the river

01-04-2003 04:41 AM

[quote="Jedi Marksman":f2643]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
I went bowling for phys ed while I was in High School.

We got to choose out of a number of "sports" about 5 per semester. We would go bowling for a week and then ice hockey, basketball etc.

I did archery myself. Can someone explain how a kid can stockpile weapons and homemade explosives in his garage and room without his parents knowing? hake:[/quote:f2643]

its called retard hippy dippy scumbag parents who never had the guts to lay a smackdown on their kids when they fucked around or bad mouthed them. Fuckin kids grow up with no respect no rules.

Wilko 01-04-2003 06:21 AM

wait a minute...you Yanks can take Bowling as a legitimate class?

/me slaps the Guidance Officer that suggested he take maths

Dr. Deleto 01-04-2003 11:52 AM

for real, guess I'm too old to know what classes you can take now, cazuse I had shit like science, math, english, yada yada. No computer classes or bowling classes fer me. course I did actually learn something when I was in school. And the government wonders why the quality of public schooling has dropped so dramatically in the past 10 years. Hell I been out for 6 and we didn have no bs classes like that.

Simo Häyhä 01-04-2003 12:28 PM

can you pirate it off of kazaa? angel:

ninty 01-04-2003 02:45 PM

[quote="Captain Wilkins":ab412]wait a minute...you Yanks can take Bowling as a legitimate class?

/me slaps the Guidance Officer that suggested he take maths[/quote:ab412]

I'm Canadian, but yeah I got to take bowling for a week, biliards for another week, swimming etc.

Oddball 01-04-2003 08:34 PM

It gives American citizens an almost 3rd person view into their country and pyshce. Its amazing that out of all the people interviewed eg Carlton Heston, Gov. Officials, it was Marlyin Manson who had the most intelligent things to say.

LOL quopte from movie " I want to open the account that gives you a free gun"

[DAS REICH] Blitz 01-04-2003 10:15 PM

Re: Bowling for Columbine
 
[quote="Von Paulus":8c807]
Go see it everyone! It is truly an amazing piece of documentary film-making...[/quote:8c807]

speaking of documentary films.. see if you can find the documentary/film "A Horror in Connecticut." Was on the other night on discovery channel, scared the crud outta me. Its about a family that moved into a former funeral parler as their home. They decided to leave a morgue in the basement instead of fixing it up for their home. They had 4 kids, and two slept in the basement next to the morgue, and they saw ghosts there. Eventually, it becomes more complicated and i don't want to spoil the rest. The reason why it scared me was because it said that all of it was real...

[DAS REICH] Blitz 01-04-2003 10:16 PM

Re: Bowling for Columbine
 
[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":d42aa][quote="Von Paulus":d42aa]
Go see it everyone! It is truly an amazing piece of documentary film-making...[/quote:d42aa]

speaking of documentary films.. see if you can find the documentary/film "A Horror in Connecticut." Was on the other night on discovery channel, scared the crud outta me. Its about a family that moved into a former funeral parler as their home. They decided to leave a morgue in the basement instead of fixing it up for their home. They had 4 kids, and two slept in the basement next to the morgue, and they saw ghosts there. Eventually, it becomes more complicated and i don't want to spoil the rest. The reason why it scared me was because it said that all of it was real...[/quote:d42aa]

sorry not "A Horror in Connecticut", replace horror with haunting.

Wilko 01-04-2003 10:16 PM

Hey Oddball, good to see another Aussie kicking around here... cool:


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