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negative 02-21-2003 07:40 PM

gods and generals thread
 
well-its finally out. I have been waiting for this movie since i read the book (31/2 years ago) It was supposed to start filming the 2nd week of Sept. in 2001-but was delayed. Then was supposed to be released in Dec.-delayed.
Well anyways, i was looking for some reviews/comment on this film-i cant go see it this weekend hake:

WeeMan 02-21-2003 07:49 PM

looks like a good movie and enjoyable to sit through , ill check it out happy:

Colonel Klink 02-21-2003 07:58 PM

If you saw Gettysburg this movie should fit well.

GreenEggs&Pot 02-21-2003 08:04 PM

And like Gettsyburg it's a very long movie.

btw, part of the battle of gettsyburg was fought on my great-great-great-great-great grandparents farm. Called the Trostle and Trossle farm

negative 02-21-2003 08:36 PM

ive been there-to gettysburg-it felt like it was haunted

GreenEggs&Pot 02-21-2003 08:40 PM

i had the same feeling when I visted the Antitem battlefield last year

It's erry...

02-21-2003 08:43 PM

i live an hour away from gettysburg in Reading, PA

02-21-2003 08:47 PM

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/gods_a ... 0x216.html

the trailers jall.

Pyro 02-21-2003 08:51 PM

is it true Duvall (who plays Robert E. Lee) is an ancestor of Lee?

Jedi Marksman 02-21-2003 09:48 PM

I'm going to see it tomorrow. Looks as huge and panoramic as The Four Feathers.

Vance 02-21-2003 09:50 PM

I read G&G as well. Not alot of action in it

Colonel Klink 02-21-2003 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
I read G&G as well. Not alot of action in it

That wasnt the purpose of G&G. It was about Loyaty to one nation and god. Did you know its a required reading at the Military Academys?

Vance 02-21-2003 10:19 PM

No but I read it when I was in the 7th grade so I was mainly looking for action oOo:

GreenEggs&Pot 02-21-2003 10:34 PM

Ive read Killer Angels this year in 8th grade, ive yet to read anything bu Jeff Sharara though

Blitz-krieg 02-21-2003 10:52 PM

Movie is about 4 hrs long... if u think Lord of the rings is long, wait till u c this one, and only a few theaters has it too oOo:

Duke_of_Ray 02-21-2003 11:29 PM

Went and saw it today, and yes the intermission is nice. :) I liked it, because the south won the battels, tobad they didnt win the war. :(

Milla 02-22-2003 12:38 AM

fucking a, im hearing alot of bad reviews on it, newspaper gave it a shit rating, so did some ass clown on TV. But dont take their word for it. I dont know if ill see it or not, civil war isnt my cup of tea

Pyro 02-22-2003 12:41 AM

Access Hollywood dind't even have a review for it today

I'll go check mypaper and igve ya a score

omg it got a 1 1/2 stars out of five from the head reviewer int he Toronto sun

weird I had high hopes, but Turner has been doing shit all lately.

Coleman 02-22-2003 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Blitz
i live an hour away from gettysburg in Reading, PA

Ahh, i live in Easton, PA. Know where that is? It's about 30 mins(i think) from reading. anyway, yeah, i went to Ghettysburg with my history class as a Freshman in highschool. I saw this stupid-ass kid that pissed me off! He started to spit like an idiot on the battle grounds. The ranger saw him and they banned him from the grounds! biggrin:

negative 02-22-2003 03:11 PM

going to see i tonight-ill post a review later tonight angel:

Pfc.Green 02-22-2003 10:51 PM

I just saw it yesterday, and I must say it is one of the best films I have seen in a long time...dont go expecting some grand battle/war action movie this movie is about the people, yes the battles are great and done well but its how the people are portrayed that puts this movie in my 'great' list especially Stephen Langs performance of Gen. Thomas J. Jackson in which he was superb...Robert Duvall made a great Lee, and Jeff Daniels did well again as Col. Chamberlain. Overall a very, very enjoyable film I'd say a 9/10...anyone interested in the U.S. Civil War, or having seen Gettysburg should enjoy this film. I have heard that the dvd will contain a...shitload of material. I'm really looking forward to the "Last Full Measure"

Coleman 02-22-2003 11:03 PM

i just saw it and i'd have to say it was amazing. The southern view was a focus in this movie. If you saw Gettysburg and know about Colonel Chamberlain, then you can compare this movie to that way with Stonewall Jackson. He is "followed" throughout his services in the CSA. I give it a 9/10 also. I also loved the music with it.......i think every war movie/game has the best music. I would recomend everyone to go see this. It was great.

negative 02-22-2003 11:29 PM

i just saw it. I will say it was a good movie-but not as good as gettysburg. This movie focusus on the people of the war (when it was meant to focus on the soldier) It puts too much focus on Jackson. In gettysburg, the camera follows chamberlain. the difference is they were conversations with his brother, killrain ect. In gods and gen... Jackson has a number of nonlogues, and the conversations are dominated by Jackson. Even though he was religious, i dont think they should have included all the bible stuff-i learned more about how the bible compares with battle reports than anything. Also, the soudtrack is awefull. Unfortunately this affects the fighting-in good fight scenes-the music ruins the suspense. I will however mention that the fighting was very good. Also in the beginning the explosions were from the ground-towards the end they were mainky computer generated, but the bullets were hitting the trees and ground, sending up dust. This change almost makes me wonder whether they changed demolition companies during th production.

Unfortunately this movie was a bit of a let down. it was made up of primarily monologues, rather than heart to heart conversations. Im not the type who just watches movies for the fighting (as you may assume), but this movie would have been an excellent miniseries. It reminded more of north and south than gettysburg or glory.

the movie:

monooque-bible verse--monologue bible-bible-short fight-monolougue-monologue-bible-bible-monologue-conversaiong-fight (which was excellent)-bible-intermission-conversation-monologue-bible-bible-letter-christmas carrol- monologue-monologue-monologue-bible-conversation about bible-monologue-small fight ruined by music-monoloque-bible stuff-jackson dies-monologue- the end

Coleman 02-22-2003 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative
Also, the soudtrack is awefull. Unfortunately this affects the fighting-in good fight scenes-the music ruins the suspense. I will however mention that the fighting was very good
Unfortunately this movie was a bit of a let down. it was made up of primarily monologues, rather than heart to heart conversations. Im not the type who just watches movies for the fighting (as you may assume), but this movie would have been an excellent miniseries. It reminded more of north and south than gettysburg or glory.

you shall die for saying the soundtrack sucked! DIE!!! M16:

negative 02-22-2003 11:34 PM

its not that it was bad-but they used the worng music for situations-

Coleman 02-22-2003 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative
its not that it was bad-but they used the worng music for situations-

myself being a musician and understanding the complexity of the music, i thought it was perfect.

negative 02-22-2003 11:49 PM

well ok...for example when in the wilderness-the confed's attacked the union camp. Before then, the camera showed the men in the treeline-with music making you feel like they were making a valiant charge (like picket's)-when the attack broke out a chorus errupted (one that should have been reserved for a more intense fight seen.-the confeds charged with little causaulties-end.
you must admitt the gettysburg score was better.
--being a musician and understanding the complexity is great-but how many vvewers are musicians? the music did not fit the scenes well-

and why did they have that guy singing the bonne blue flag in between the fight scens-talk about choppy hake:

Coleman 02-22-2003 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative
well ok...for example when in the wilderness-the confed's attacked the union camp. Before then, the camera showed the men in the treeline-with music making you feel like they were making a valiant charge (like picket's)-when the attack broke out a chorus errupted (one that should have been reserved for a more intense fight seen.-the confeds charged with little causaulties-end.
you must admitt the gettysburg score was better.
--being a musician and understanding the complexity is great-but how many vvewers are musicians? the music did not fit the scenes well-

and why did they have that guy singing the bonne blue flag in between the fight scens-talk about choppy hake:

lol, that guy looked a little "ghey" to me! Yeah, i will admit, the Gettysburg score is better than this one. And yes, you od have a point about the musicians. I liked it lol. I might be alone on this one. biggrin:

negative 02-23-2003 12:02 AM

[quote="Garry Coleman":1fda7]
lol, that guy looked a little "ghey" to me! Yeah, i will admit, the Gettysburg score is better than this one. And yes, you od have a point about the musicians. I liked it lol. I might be alone on this one. biggrin:[/quote:1fda7]

lol yeah-he was ghey-but it sill was a good movie-i just think it would be an awesome miniseries

02-23-2003 12:09 AM

the music for gettysburg was groin grabbingly good, no fuckin way it can be outdun fosho

Pfc.Green 02-23-2003 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
the music for gettysburg was groin grabbingly good, no fuckin way it can be outdun fosho

Agreed. However this soundtrack was done by the same guy, and I thought he did a great job once again.

Colonel Klink 02-23-2003 02:31 AM

Well the good thing is that the movie wasnt long as Gettysburg. Who wants to sit down and watch a 5 hour movie. :P

Colonel Klink 02-23-2003 02:43 AM

Nice little game to play as you watch the movie.
Find the Senators in Gods and Generals:

There is
[img]http://www.evote.com/evotepix/congress/senate/b/byrd3.jpg[/img]
West Virginia Senator Robert "KKK" Byrd
[img]http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/gramm_p.jpg[/img]
Senator Phil Gramm
[img]http://www.gmu.edu/departments/law/images/allen-george.jpg[/img]
Senator George Allen

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-23-2003 04:42 AM

i saw it was a bit long but at least there was an intermission

Pfc.Green 02-23-2003 07:54 PM

I personally like long movies, as long as they are good, and G&G was damn good.

Colonel 03-09-2003 11:22 PM

Sorry guys, haven't had time to post since I saw the movie. I liked it, can't wait for DVD "extras", but it's not for everyone. I, too, thought the monologues were a little long a times. I understand that the point was to try and emulate the book by making these guys "human" and not just historical figures but at times it was a little much. (ie - The long poem by Chamberlain).

I was impressed by the attention to historical detail (note the Confederate soldiers wearing US belt buckles upside down! - Jackson falling of the stretcher! etc) As for having too much praying, etc. by Jackson - not possible! What was portrayed is the watered down version. His beliefs were so strong that he would stop in the middle of a battle, raise his hand to God and pray for several minutes. He was always found in his tent on his knees in prayer. It might not make for an exciting movie but it is accurate.


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