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Widowmaker750gAMAX 02-28-2003 11:40 AM

going underground legal?
 
I was in a map playing when i saw the head of a team mate cruising around! Although it looks Halarious to see just a head flying around he of course was really pissing people off by his killing spree. I asked him how he does that. He showed me. Very simple. I do not approve of nor have any cheat programs ect... My question is that since it is apparent that any player (at least on that server) could do it, I have not tried on any other,though have seen it done. Is it legal since all players have the ability, though just may not know how.? i have also seen people inside of roofs.I personally prefer not to., just looks really funny. can Someone who really knows give me some insight on this?

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 11:49 AM

Ya.. that's a cheat.. Most people do it because it gives them a sense of eliteness. The feeling they know how to do something others can not do. But they do it at the expense of others. The fact of the matter is that it's a total newbie maneuver. And anyone blatant enough to do it now a days pretty much tells everyone he's using all the latest cheats.. Including (hint) the chameleon skins that allow you to see other people through walls.

Most servers run map fixes for these problems. I will kick people after one warning on my server. I also have kick voting enabled.

Bleuachdu 02-28-2003 11:55 AM

The general rule of thumb for league and public play states that most if not all map glitches are cheats. What you are referring to in particular is called "going under a map" and can be done in numerous maps. This is most definitely illegal considering that the makers of the game did not intend for you to stand underground and shoot at unsuspecting victims. Some map glitches are, at least in my eyes, considered OK. For example, the rooftops in So. France are fine. They may not be where you'll look for players or where you'd expect to see them, however they are solid textured areas that you can get to with a little work. I hope this helps.

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 12:01 PM

I don't think its a cheat because as a map maker I have built in glithchs to some experimental maps and when u walk into them and off the map you keep falling untill you die . The only way to alow people to do that is to actuly put a floor for people to walk on under the map.
so it isnt cheating because it was put there purposly by the people at EA!
bigzooka: M16:

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 12:04 PM

Get a clue.. That's called a skybox.. They had no idea people were going to go down there.

OutlawSZ 02-28-2003 12:06 PM

on the servers i admin..i dont even warn. i just kick/ban...i mean cmon..they know what they are doing and 99% of the time its done on purpose. so screw them..kick/ban. let them go screw around on soneone elses server instead.

/-/ighPriest 02-28-2003 12:14 PM

A Hungry Fatman is absolutely right. Only a few maps allow you to walk underground. The rest you just keep falling into infinity, and on these maps all possible routes to the underground are blocked.

Bazooka_Joe 02-28-2003 12:48 PM

It's a map exploit. Unless the author intentionally put it there for hiding purposes, then it's a cheat.

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 12:49 PM

Big fucking deal cheaters..

Some maps are made differently than others. Alot of Quake3 mappers will create a skybox and build the map inside of it.. That's the ground you hit, the bottom of the skybox.. Others will cap their maps with the skybox instead of building the map completely inside of one. If the map is capped..you will more than likely fall forever if you find a way out of the map..

Going out of the map is cheating.. You do it.. Your a cheater.. And a lamer for being annoying.

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 12:56 PM

[quote="/-/ighPriest":58e34]Only a few maps allow you to walk underground. The rest you just keep falling into infinity, and on these maps all possible routes to the underground are blocked.[/quote:58e34]

And the reason all possible routes to the underground are blocked on these type maps. Is becauss when you do not create a SKYBOX around your map.. And possible routes would show up a leaks.

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 12:57 PM

lol

And possible routes would show up a leaks.

**All possible routes would show up as leaks.**

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 01:39 PM

look cheating is perfectly legal because everyone can do it and its ur own stupid fault for not using it fire2: eatthis:

Zoner 02-28-2003 01:46 PM

That's the best, most well thought out argument EVER! oOo:


Zone

Akuma 02-28-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
That's the best, most well thought out argument EVER! oOo:


Zone

Eh what did you expect? This is aa.com!

geRV 02-28-2003 02:01 PM

[quote="A HUNGRY FATMAN":06974]look cheating is perfectly legal because everyone can do it and its ur own stupid fault for not using it fire2: eatthis:[/quote:06974]

Fucktard. oOo:

Elmo the Ewok King 02-28-2003 02:14 PM

cheating is cheating live with it u cheat then u r obviously crap at the game. mad: or to stupid to realise people who cheat normally get banned from ne server they go to if they cheat. i thank u an buh bye. mwah:

~^No0bAnIzEr^~ 02-28-2003 02:18 PM

Argh, the basic definition of cheating, is doing something illegal, you know, not legal, not allowed, and if you do do it, you are a retard for making the game a piece of $hit!!! zooka: fire2: hake:

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 07:59 PM

if u dont want to use it then dont i on the other hand will use what the people at ea did to my own advantige comegetsome: flamethrower: chop:

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 08:03 PM

Just don't join my server cheaters get a switch computer lock up. And don't come here crying when all your favorite servers have banned you.

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 08:07 PM

why would i cry over a game?
DID YOU KNOW
that there are severs where they let u go under and no one gives a flying fuck and in fact in some servers they incurige it! quickshot:

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 08:08 PM

have fun..

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 08:09 PM

i will u prick
u know u take things like games way to serusly

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 08:10 PM

huh? I told you to have fun.. And you get pissed off and call me a prick?

Now who's taking what to seriously?

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 08:13 PM

well sorry i took it as sarcasam oOo: dont have a fit

Mr_nStuff 02-28-2003 08:18 PM

Yes you are sorry.. Now go.. I think your moms calling you.

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 08:20 PM

yo what makes u think my moms alive and bite me

Pvt. Pyle 02-28-2003 08:30 PM

FATMAN...
 
YOUR THE TYPE OF SCUM WHO RUIN THIS GAME...GO IN A DARK ROOM AND BANG YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL...I HATE YOU AND MOST REAL MOHAA'ERS DO TO...F*CK AROUND WITH ANOTHER GAME

A HUNGRY FATMAN 02-28-2003 08:34 PM

i'll do what i want u cant stop me and your gay zooka:


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