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Arkan 04-05-2003 11:33 AM

Apocalypse Now
 
I've seen quite a few war movies in my time but just only recently saw "Apocalypse Now". Is it just me or did this movie suck? I didn't like it all that much....way too weird for me. Who's gonna go surfing while being shot at?
I did watch the whole thing through hoping it would turn around but it never did. 3 hrs later and i was disappointed.

Another classic that i never quite saw all the way through is the "Deer Hunter". I'll be renting that one this week and this time, i'll watch the whole thing. I know it'll be better than Apocalypse Now.

MrLevinstein 04-05-2003 01:59 PM

Yeah Apocolypse now was way to wierd and really wasnt about the Vietnam war at all. This guy gets this crazy mission that they would noramlly sent SEALs or rangers to do and its like wtf? Deer Hunter was a ok movie.

Milla 04-05-2003 02:07 PM

I saw like 30 mins of it on HBo, and it sucked so bad, alot of people here like it though oOo:

McCoy 03 04-05-2003 02:32 PM

That is a great movie.

Capt. Hiker 04-05-2003 04:02 PM

did you watch the redux version of it on DVD? the redux version has like an hour more film of cut scenes from the original 79 version
and its a great movie , talking it about makes me want to go watch it now cool:

1080jibber 04-05-2003 04:27 PM

yeah it did suck, it wasnt just you who felt that way about it

plattoon, and full metal jacket are one of the best war movies out, ohh and SPR biggrin:

Milla 04-05-2003 04:51 PM

Apocolypse now redux, thats the one i saw, pure shit. People either think its a great move, or people totally hate it. Theres no inbetween

McCoy 03 04-05-2003 05:07 PM

You're just mad because it doesn't have marines. freak:

Static 04-05-2003 06:24 PM

weird I just paused on my dvd player to surf for a bit O_o but yeah the only part ive liked so far is when that air cav unit plays that classical music biggrin: who's the composer of that anyway ?

Slaggg 04-05-2003 06:30 PM

That would be 'Ride of the Valkyeries' I want to say DeBussey, but I know that wrong.

Slaggg 04-05-2003 06:31 PM

You guys are showing your age. Apocalypse Now is a classic.

Innoxx 04-05-2003 06:36 PM

Wagner did Flight of The Valkyres

Pyro 04-05-2003 06:39 PM

haven't seen it

saw The Great Escape on Bravo today, great movie.

Innoxx 04-05-2003 06:43 PM

I thought it was good, but I don't look for the usual "rambo takes out a division of NVA" kind of movie. Shows just how much a war can fuck you up.

Tripper 04-05-2003 06:55 PM

Apocalypse Now isn't a really a war movie. I don't think Coppola was intending it to be. It's more of a festival film.

So you shouldn't watch iot expecting to see a whole lot of gung-ho bollocks. It's a very deep film, and for those that have the mental capacity to understand it, it's a truly great film.

I myself never got the hang of it, but I've heard other people describe it, and read Francis Ford Coppola's explanation for it. It's intending to take a very metaphorical and figurative view on war in general. That's where somebodies mental capacity and general knowledge of the world around them comes into play.

It's just one of those films that has to be understood on multiple levels....And only the Director can really fully understand it. Most Art House films fit that description anyways.

snipeymagoo 04-05-2003 07:10 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":0c18e]I saw like 30 mins of it on HBo, and it sucked so bad, alot of people here like it though oOo:[/quote:0c18e]
i only saw the 1st 10 lol it suxorz

Captain Bunny 04-05-2003 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Apocalypse Now isn't a really a war movie. I don't think Coppola was intending it to be. It's more of a festival film.

So you shouldn't watch iot expecting to see a whole lot of gung-ho bollocks. It's a very deep film, and for those that have the mental capacity to understand it, it's a truly great film.

I myself never got the hang of it, but I've heard other people describe it, and read Francis Ford Coppola's explanation for it. It's intending to take a very metaphorical and figurative view on war in general. That's where somebodies mental capacity and general knowledge of the world around them comes into play.

It's just one of those films that has to be understood on multiple levels....And only the Director can really fully understand it. Most Art House films fit that description anyways.


You have basically summed the whole film up, well done.

the film doesnt suck, as some of you have put it, its just you may think it sucks because a) there isnt a lot of charlie killing and fighting, or b) as tripper says, you dont understand the film.

It is a classic and always will be.
It has been made on a much deeper level than the war itself, and you could think of it as modern art, and very ahead of its time back in the 70s.
If you watch the redux version you get a better understanding of the characters.

Static 04-05-2003 08:02 PM

Just finished watching it on dvd and I would be lying if I said I liked the whole thing :/ it was alright but I just didnt get at times (mostly near the end) but I loved that helicopter part biggrin: think i'l just go watch that bit again ..

Zap. USMC 04-05-2003 08:50 PM

Never watched it.

I haven't even watched "Full Metal Jacket" either.. I'll have to rent it one of these days.

Captain Bunny 04-05-2003 09:25 PM

full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.

Tripper 04-05-2003 10:08 PM

[quote="Captain Bunny":973a6]full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.[/quote:973a6]

Yeah, I enjoyed that. Directed by the same guy that did When Trumpets Fade.

Captain Bunny 04-05-2003 10:21 PM

[quote=Tripper]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Captain Bunny":9f178
full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.

Yeah, I enjoyed that. Directed by the same guy that did When Trumpets Fade.[/quote:9f178]

never seen that film (or heard of it oOo: ) is it any good?

Milla 04-05-2003 10:21 PM

Hamburger hill was awesome, apocalypse now, i never heard of it until like a month ago.

Slaggg 04-05-2003 10:44 PM

Thank you for the clarification Innox.

Very well put Tripper. Allow me to add that the movie was intended to be a character study. Not only on what war can bring out in a person, but also the frailty of the human mind.

04-06-2003 12:24 AM

I never watched that film but I would still say PLATOON to be the best vietnam field so far. Damn good.

Harlen Maguire 04-06-2003 02:48 AM

I don't like the Director of Hamburger Hill...

Platoon comes out, big hit...

So he makes Hamburger Hill.

Saving Private Ryan comes out, huge hit...

He makes When Trumpets Fade.

PLUS: He's a pretty crappy director...

Slaggg 04-06-2003 03:20 AM

Ok, I sense you're not a John Irvin fan.

Bazooka_Joe 04-06-2003 04:20 AM

The only cool thing about that movie was "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. . ."

Miscguy 04-06-2003 07:38 AM

Simply put as someone stated before, your one side or the other. Hate it or love it.

I'll put it this way. If your looking for an endless movie with the simpliest of plots, that proceeds to be so cluttered by character development, and dialogue, that can at times simply add to the confusion. This is the one for you. If you wish to be further bored by yet more usless character development and exposition, grab the redux version... That dosnt reduce anything.

If your looking for entertainment, something that you can watch and not yawn. Pass on by. This is a dull movie that has rare points of battle that in and of themselves are not that interesting. Consisting of some off the wall character who's only purpose is to confound you more as to there behavior. A surfer crazy air cav colonel, and a drugged out M-79 gunner who shoots by sound are a few examples that spring to mind.

No piece of footage shot before, or since has made less total sense by the ways of a continguas plot than this film. Taking so many side trips i begin to wonder if im watching six movies in one. At some points you begin to think your watching a war film, your then snapped back to reality by a liesurly boat cruise up a river in the middle of butt fucking no-where. While on that 30 minute boat ride, completly 3rd person narrated by the main character, you begin to consider how long it would have taken you to walk up the damn river and shoot the guy yourself.

Now once near the end, you begin to think, why the hell didnt they just bomb this guy since they seem to know where he is? The answer of course, they felt like sending one man, with a rag tag boat crew of assorted backgrounds, up the longest river you've ever seen. All after of course, the first attempt failed.

I've watched this film twice now. I have no desire to punish myself with the redux version. This supposed "masterpiece" is a purpose driven film. The whole purpose being an attempt to make the simplist plot, into a complex film that was a grasp for making a "deep" movie. Completing a 1 hour storiy line in 3 hours by adding unnessisary exposition, and un-godly amounts of character development, is not a piece of art.

Tripper 04-06-2003 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miscguy
Simply put as someone stated before, your one side or the other. Hate it or love it.

I'll put it this way. If your looking for an endless movie with the simpliest of plots, that proceeds to be so cluttered by character development, and dialogue, that can at times simply add to the confusion. This is the one for you. If you wish to be further bored by yet more usless character development and exposition, grab the redux version... That dosnt reduce anything.

If your looking for entertainment, something that you can watch and not yawn. Pass on by. This is a dull movie that has rare points of battle that in and of themselves are not that interesting. Consisting of some off the wall character who's only purpose is to confound you more as to there behavior. A surfer crazy air cav colonel, and a drugged out M-79 gunner who shoots by sound are a few examples that spring to mind.

No piece of footage shot before, or since has made less total sense by the ways of a continguas plot than this film. Taking so many side trips i begin to wonder if im watching six movies in one. At some points you begin to think your watching a war film, your then snapped back to reality by a liesurly boat cruise up a river in the middle of butt fucking no-where. While on that 30 minute boat ride, completly 3rd person narrated by the main character, you begin to consider how long it would have taken you to walk up the damn river and shoot the guy yourself.

Now once near the end, you begin to think, why the hell didnt they just bomb this guy since they seem to know where he is? The answer of course, they felt like sending one man, with a rag tag boat crew of assorted backgrounds, up the longest river you've ever seen. All after of course, the first attempt failed.

I've watched this film twice now. I have no desire to punish myself with the redux version. This supposed "masterpiece" is a purpose driven film. The whole purpose being an attempt to make the simplist plot, into a complex film that was a grasp for making a "deep" movie. Completing a 1 hour storiy line in 3 hours by adding unnessisary exposition, and un-godly amounts of character development, is not a piece of art.

That was a load of Bullshit....That's fine if it's just your opinion but if you're attempting to critique the whole for film for the benefit of us, then, well....It is a load of tripe.

This guy is writing on the "Tits, Guns, Explosions" scale. In other words, films for people with hideously low IQ's.

Don't piss on something you can't understand.

Vance 04-06-2003 03:18 PM

Trip - your post was a load of bullshit.

MrLevinstein 04-06-2003 04:08 PM

I want a movie not a puzzle.

Yes Apocolypse now was deep, but there is such a thing as too deep.

McCoy 03 04-06-2003 05:46 PM

oOo:

Slaggg 04-06-2003 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesnacki
Yes Apocolypse now was deep, but there is such a thing as too deep.

I can see your point, but I don't find Apocalypse Now to be all that deep. Granted, you have to pay attention and use your imagination, but I've never considered it 'unfathomable'.

But then you have to take into account that quite a lot of the current movie going public considers Adam Sandler movies to be high art. oOo:

04-06-2003 11:26 PM

what do u expect? most teens these days. and the public is getting more and more ignorant everyday. they read/watch the news then it goes down the toilet, they can't remeber shiz cause they dont pay attention.

Tripper 04-07-2003 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance1
Trip - your post was a load of bullshit.

You're just pissed cause you're gay. oOo:

Captain Bunny 04-07-2003 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germ
what do u expect? most teens these days. and the public is getting more and more ignorant everyday. they read/watch the news then it goes down the toilet, they can't remeber shiz cause they dont pay attention.

how very true. what happened on 9/11 again?

Innoxx 04-07-2003 07:06 AM

Wasn't that the Supernbowl?

Vance 04-07-2003 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance1
Trip - your post was a load of bullshit.

You're just pissed cause you're gay. oOo:

No Im pissed because you spit on everyone's opinions, thats why

MajorWoody 04-07-2003 09:29 AM

" The horror. The horror. "


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