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ED 04-16-2003 05:45 PM

STATE OF THE COMMUNITY
 
Ok well it had to be said...someone was going to make a thread about this sooner or later...so why not the resident prick who revels in negativity.

What is going on with this community. Can you remember a time when the you clicked on the front page of a forum, and found topics stretching to the next page that were all from the current day.

Now I look at OT(BS) and I see topics from tuesday, and on GD you've got things from MONDAY on there. That's hasn't happened since I've been on this board.

So, whats going on...is it a slow decline that even new releases wont be able to cure. This board certainly could be said to be the litmus test for the current attitudes regarding MOH, and now the activity isn't ebbing and flowing, but is still-watered.

Chronic Diarrhea 04-16-2003 06:26 PM

yeah things are slowing down, but I don't care as long as the vets and cool people post often.

Old Reliable 04-16-2003 06:30 PM

the fact that you care about this website goes to show you have too much time on your hands mon ami

Coleman 04-16-2003 06:30 PM

people still play MOHAA even though they don't post about it. As long as they play, i'm fine with that.

As for the forums and such....as long as offtopic keeps going biggrin: . I will be quite unhappy if the vets leave.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-16-2003 06:31 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":d6764]people still play MOHAA even though they don't post about it. As long as they play, i'm fine with that.

As for the forums and such....as long as offtopic keeps going biggrin: . I will be quite unhappy if the vets leave.[/quote:d6764]ya u got pwned on our server biggrin: lol j/k

MrLevinstein 04-16-2003 06:33 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":8ff5e]the fact that you care about this website goes to show you have too much time on your hands mon ami[/quote:8ff5e]

By the looks of your post count you care too. I care about this website, you are all good guys

/me sobs

biggrin:

Coleman 04-16-2003 06:33 PM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":68ee3][quote="Garry Coleman":68ee3]people still play MOHAA even though they don't post about it. As long as they play, i'm fine with that.

As for the forums and such....as long as offtopic keeps going biggrin: . I will be quite unhappy if the vets leave.[/quote:68ee3]ya u got pwned on our server biggrin: lol j/k[/quote:68ee3]
/me c0kslaps blitz


::cough:: it was objective--no death column ::cough, cough::

Old Reliable 04-16-2003 06:34 PM

postcount? fuck that i dont even look at mine. i dont care about specifics for this site, just like to piss peop;le off with my POV

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-16-2003 06:34 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":84d5e][quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":84d5e][quote="Garry Coleman":84d5e]people still play MOHAA even though they don't post about it. As long as they play, i'm fine with that.

As for the forums and such....as long as offtopic keeps going biggrin: . I will be quite unhappy if the vets leave.[/quote:84d5e]ya u got pwned on our server biggrin: lol j/k[/quote:84d5e]
/me c0kslaps blitz


::cough:: it was objective--no death column ::cough, cough::[/quote:84d5e]*cough*so much pwnage of gary*cough*i pwned gary it was a pwnage fest *cough*

Milla 04-16-2003 07:36 PM

The game is dead, zee forums are dying, but i still like them biggrin:

Vance 04-16-2003 07:37 PM

HEIL!

04-17-2003 12:40 AM

OMFG NO WAYZ0RZ! M0H/AA.C0M 4EVAH! HEIL!

DeadBolt 04-17-2003 12:43 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":344b5]the fact that you care about this website goes to show you have too much time on your hands mon ami[/quote:344b5]

dude if you dont care at all why do you waste time coming here? you are the biggest hypocrite ever.... hake:

wintersforge 04-17-2003 01:43 AM

On Topic!!!


I still enjoy the game. I enjoy playing the game with the friends I have made. That to me is worth every penny ive spent on the server, PC, BB, and all the other shit my wife fusses about. as long as the group of friends stays together, ill be happy. once a new game comes out we all enjoy we will move on and pollute that community as well. ill stick this MOH thing out...with all the expansions and other War related games coming out, as well as your insightful and sharped tongued monologues, its enought to keep me around.

...but i will say that we have always had n00bs spamming, being irriatting and what not. hell we were all once n00bs trembling as we punched each key stroke and eventually asked a n00b question like how do i change my name ingame. But my observation is since September there have been a massive influx of annoying pricks, wanna bes, and other assorted trash. Im stoic Ed. I will endure....but like Gen. MacArthur...only the real soldiers will fade away... cool:

Himmler 04-17-2003 01:45 AM

[quote=DeadBolt]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":bfdf7
the fact that you care about this website goes to show you have too much time on your hands mon ami

dude if you dont care at all why do you waste time coming here? you are the biggest hypocrite ever.... hake:[/quote:bfdf7]

true dat true dat =)

Old Reliable 04-17-2003 06:12 AM

yeah youre right its prety much a site where a bunch of retards who cant type and where high school dropouts gather.

Zoner 04-17-2003 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
On Topic!!!


I still enjoy the game. I enjoy playing the game with the friends I have made. That to me is worth every penny ive spent on the server, PC, BB, and all the other shit my wife fusses about. as long as the group of friends stays together, ill be happy. once a new game comes out we all enjoy we will move on and pollute that community as well. ill stick this MOH thing out...with all the expansions and other War related games coming out, as well as your insightful and sharped tongued monologues, its enought to keep me around.

...but i will say that we have always had n00bs spamming, being irriatting and what not. hell we were all once n00bs trembling as we punched each key stroke and eventually asked a n00b question like how do i change my name ingame. But my observation is since September there have been a massive influx of annoying pricks, wanna bes, and other assorted trash. Im stoic Ed. I will endure....but like Gen. MacArthur...only the real soldiers will fade away... cool:

Don't think I could've said it any better.

04-17-2003 07:20 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":048fb]yeah youre right its prety much a site where a bunch of retards who cant type and where high school dropouts gather.[/quote:048fb]
oh. people like you

Tiwaz 04-17-2003 07:46 AM

The community will be flourishing again when a new title comes out, I think.

And by a new title I don't mean an expansion, such as Spearhead is.

What I mean is: At the moment everybody is satiated. Most problems have been solved, lots of mods and maps are available. Possible problems with mods and maps have been solved as well, mostly.

Chronic Diarrhea 04-17-2003 02:53 PM

I believe I will be playing MOHAA off and on for quite some time. I have recently started playing again every once in a while, and I find that using the KAR 98K makes the game refreshing. I used to only use scopes, but now leading the board on obj with a Karbiner is fun. The only thing I really hate about this game now since I quit 4 months ago is that EVERYBODY calls "cheat" and clans kick me from their servers within at least 3 minutes. I'm not the best MOHAA player, hell I'm probably not even in the top 50. I do think I can play with the best of them with any weapon, since I have gone through stages where I use only one weapon exclusively. It first stareted out with the MG, then to the SMG to get to places faster, then to the sniper rifle, and now I like the rifle.

What exactly am I talking about? I really don't know. I just got home from school and am psyched that we don't have baseball practice today. All I know is MOHAA is the first MP game I have played online, and to me has been the funnest and best game....EVER. I have played against n00bs, been a n00b, played with clans, n00b clans, whiney clans, particular clans, offensive clans, noble clans, excellent clans, and even been in some of these clans. The only thing I haven't done is played a lot with OTD (I need to). I wasted away last Summer in my computer room with the fan on medium, a big glass of Coke/Mountain Dew/lemonade at the desk, door closed, and sound jacked up on my headphones, and I loved it. It was suprising to me because I don't even play games much at all, until I bought MOHAA. This was the first game I followed before its release, and I'm glad I did. Spearhead is a different story, but I won't go there.

I registered on these forums because I loved the game so much. Being a n00b here to becoming a jackass has been fun, and hopefully I haven't pissed off too many people. There have been many funny topics here, as well as retarded ones and downright disgusting ones. Bottom line though, I will continue to post here until it dies. Until that day, lets keep on spamming. cool: cool:

Bazooka_Joe 04-17-2003 03:32 PM

I still play MOH, I just uninstalled it cuz I'm waiting for my new PC to be done, then I will reinstall it.

Ydiss 04-17-2003 03:37 PM

I've noticed this a lot over the last few weeks, partiularly this past one.

I remember when I used to have to reply to 3-4+ threads every time I opened this page. Now I often click the close icon after 5 seconds browsing and that's even after not posting for a day or two.

I put the decline of the community down to two factors:

1) What is there left to talk about anymore?

2) Over-moderation.

Back in the day the busiest forum was always General, followed closely by OT. Now, General is virtually empty and life-less.

Everything that could be talked about has been talked about already in General. This is where point 2 comes in but more on that later.

For a time the war on terror forum was very active but again here everything has been said.

Mods and Skins forum? Lol, yeh ok.

All you have left these days is Off-Topic.

And this is the problem with this site. Even an off-topic topic is questioned to its validity on the Off-Topic forum.

Even with the multitude of topics available in this broad range of possabilities one wonders if it's worth posting at all.

And when it's all been said on the Off-Topic forum then you know it's a community in decline.

This is the busiest MoH:AA community forum that exists so ar as I know but it is also the most infamous for many reasons. Most regulars have moved on or have been banned.

The fact that most topics are like this one (and similar, such as complaints about locking, banning, spam and mods etc) really goes to show the state of it all.

It's my honest opinion that this forum enjoyed the height of its times in the months just before and after the game release date.

Mods here only locked threads about warez and you hardly ever noticed they were mods. They were 100% impartial (except some, but they rarely posted about the actual game itself).

The best aspect of the community was the aa.com server and the long drawn out arguments flames and discussions. The longer the better!

The given rule was that if you didn't like it you didn't read, or post about, it.

These were the days when you would be flamed for cussing a newbie when asking a newbie question.

Today newbies are still cussed but before anyone can say anything the thread is locked for being an old topic.

These forums have seen a lot of ups and downs. It's also been down more often than up biggrin: . But there lies the core of the problem...

All the lockage, strict supervision and restrictions (a lot of which are biased and less-than-impartial) has gained what it was set out to do...

That is... Less posts, less spam, less flames.

Cool, now the forum doesn't crash so often.

Pity there'll be no one around to care anymore.

04-17-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ydiss
I've noticed this a lot over the last few weeks, partiularly this past one.

I put the decline of the community down to two factors:

1) What is there left to talk about anymore?

2) Over-moderation.


This is the busiest MoH:AA community forum that exists so ar as I know but it is also the most infamous for many reasons. Most regulars have moved on or have been banned.

The best aspect of the community was the aa.com server and the long drawn out arguments flames and discussions. The longer the better!

Cool, now the forum doesn't crash so often.

Pity there'll be no one around to care anymore.


Chronic Diarrhea 04-17-2003 05:42 PM

Those were great points Ydiss. I think we should have a meeting once every week to address the issues here at AA.com.

Ydiss 04-17-2003 05:49 PM

It'd be something, but it'd not stop much, sadly.

I mean... on a forum where even the mods attempt to de-rail threads before they've even started taking off you know you're on to a loser.

Mod_01: "Oh this topic doesn't interest me... [Thought process] 1 - Post spam to belittle it 2 - LOCK 3 - Post "NEIN" to make it look like I'm just an Average Guy (c) with a sense of humour"

Chronic Diarrhea 04-17-2003 06:01 PM

Hehe so true.

As stated by Noctis:

Unloct! Loct! HEIL!! <----- oOo: hake:

geRV 04-17-2003 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ydiss
It'd be something, but it'd not stop much, sadly.

I mean... on a forum where even the mods attempt to de-rail threads before they've even started taking off you know you're on to a loser.

Mod_01: "Oh this topic doesn't interest me... [Thought process] 1 - Post spam to belittle it 2 - LOCK 3 - Post "NEIN" to make it look like I'm just an Average Guy (c) with a sense of humour"

I resent that. cry:

04-17-2003 11:27 PM

gerad is a good mod. he doesnt start shit with people, and he doesnt lock threads for no reason. i also havent seen him "complain" about anyone to the higher ups either.

04-17-2003 11:29 PM

[quote="Judas Priest":807e7]gerad is a good mod. he doesnt start shit with people, and he doesnt lock threads for no reason. i also havent seen him "complain" about anyone to the higher ups either.[/quote:807e7]
true, noctis should never have become a mod, or BJ, they just lock threads for no reason.

And as long as cool cats like me are here, then this forum will forever stay cool. Radical dude oOo:

Drew 04-17-2003 11:41 PM

For reference, I've not locked very many threads at all. And as far as anyone being treated "unfairly." The only person to whom I've ever been "unfair" was ED, and that's because ED was/is supposed to be banned, according to the admin.

1080jibber 04-17-2003 11:50 PM

i think AA.com should pick up on a new game, MOH:AA is getting old and when a game gets old it loses alot of players very quick
AA.com should go to a game that will be a big hit like DOOM 3

then this place will be rocken like its 1999

but i dont own this site so it stays with the ol MOH

KTOG 04-18-2003 12:01 AM

This place is going to shit, but i'll go down with the site like a captain and his ship. People like this Sclass guy are the ones who are fucking over the site. When they've see a thread that looks similar to one they've seen before they scream "N()()B" or even invade other peoples thread (well respected people like Rudedog) and mock them. Oh well i'll try my best and hope others too will keep these kind of people at bay.

Ydiss 04-18-2003 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ydiss
It'd be something, but it'd not stop much, sadly.

I mean... on a forum where even the mods attempt to de-rail threads before they've even started taking off you know you're on to a loser.

Mod_01: "Oh this topic doesn't interest me... [Thought process] 1 - Post spam to belittle it 2 - LOCK 3 - Post "NEIN" to make it look like I'm just an Average Guy (c) with a sense of humour"

I resent that. cry:

You can resent it if you like, although it wasn't really aimed at you.

The last part (NEIN) I added because I think it's starting to get old and it's sad that everyone is resigned to it.

I personally have never been treated badly by any mod but that's not the point.

My point is that there is a visible decline to this site's popularity and that there are discernable differences that I think have impacted on that.

You becoming a mod really isn't one of them. The issues stem from a long way back.

This forum will enjoy a brief boost when PA is released. Lots of new topics about how crap/awesome it is, new exploits, new cheats, new mods and flame wars and then it'll start to fade again. There's a small chance that EA will get it right and inject a new surge of life to the community, but based on their track record since taking over from 2015 I seriously doubt it.

This decline is not purely down to mods lockage and restrictions but the difference to the forums is. The attitude of people here is generally very negative towards mods. It never used to be... Ever.

You should know, you've been here longer than me.

ED 04-18-2003 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
For reference, I've not locked very many threads at all. And as far as anyone being treated "unfairly." The only person to whom I've ever been "unfair" was ED, and that's because ED was/is supposed to be banned, according to the admin.

I'll say it once and I'll say it again...as soon as I am IP Banned or deleted or whatever - a name ban dont mean shit to me, hence the "#127".

That being said, I cant see myself posting much here in the coming months, I've got a full plate to keep myself occupied. Of course if there is a particularly good oppurtunity to make a smart ass comment then I'll of course come out of lurking.

YDISS - once again succint and to the point(s). I remember being frustrated that a thread I was into, would get swallowed up in activity and sent to he next page - oftentimes in the same day. And while it is true alot of it has to do with MOH being opened and gutted, it is attributable to the attitudes of the way things are here. Sadly, nothing WILL change.

And keep updating the MAP thread. I still think it should be made a stick, and you should detail some of the trouble, and techniques you're using to make the map great.

Ydiss 04-18-2003 10:24 PM

I'll be updating it tonight. The map's almost done.

Once it's completed I'll probably start a new thread detailing the making of it. I don't think it's worth bringing the original thread up again because no one reads through all the pages and it changed topic mid-way through.

Anyway, this time I've had very few obsticles. I came across all of those when I made xfire... Windows, doors, scripting, objectives, missing faces (through rotation abuse) how to use caulk, how to use detail brushes to keep vis data down, how to scale textures, how to allign textures, how to use the bloody program and so on.

All issues I don't have to spend whole nights addressing anymore (it took me a week to work out why my map was crashng in compile due to my vis data file being over 2.9mb - Average size for a DM map should be no more than 2-400k). So mapping is as easy as think, point, click, test now.

Took me more than 5 months to get to that stage, though...

If the demand is there I'll keep making maps after this one.. It's been a lot less painful and a lot more fun.

04-19-2003 01:48 AM

the community went to shit when joe became a mod..locking every thread that he thought should be locked. now its even worse that hes an admin. why would bs let the most hated and unpopular mod become an admin is beyond reason. hake:

Chronic Diarrhea 04-19-2003 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencil
the community went to shit when joe became a mod..locking every thread that he thought should be locked. now its even worse that hes an admin. why would bs let the most hated and unpopular mod become an admin is beyond reason. hake:

Yep, that sure is gonna get you unbanned, although if I were you I would just start posting under a new name.


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