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Swill 06-06-2003 11:32 AM

Why does the battle of the bulge mean? please tell me!
 
Hey guys i have posted for 2 weeks so i`ll make this kinda short
I`m in school right now and i`m doing a report on the battle of the bulge and i cant find why they named it the battle of the bulge can someone please help me!

PLEASE,lol

Aka_eshelmen

Simo Häyhä 06-06-2003 11:33 AM

the germans made a last ditch effort to drive the allies back out of europe, and in thier offensive they created a "buldge" in the allied lines. the germans were driven back however

Webb 06-06-2003 12:01 PM

http://helios.acomp.usf.edu/~dsargent/bestbulge2.htm

Old Reliable 06-06-2003 01:41 PM

its really sad you dn't know what the battle of the bulge was, yet you post on the forum that deals with a WW 2 game

pest 06-06-2003 02:11 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":77c6c]its really sad you dn't know what the battle of the bulge was, yet you post on the forum that deals with a WW 2 game[/quote:77c6c]

oOo:

Feel better now?

geRV 06-06-2003 02:18 PM

I read somewhere the name "bulge" was derived from the fact there was a load of tanks involved. meh.

Swill 06-06-2003 03:54 PM

god
 
[quote="Old Reliable":217fc]its really sad you dn't know what the battle of the bulge was, yet you post on the forum that deals with a WW 2 game[/quote:217fc]


I`m sorry i`m not like you wasting my time on a forum.
I have a life, sports, school, just got my license, yet of course you badger me when i have the balls to go in to this forum and ask for help omfg what an ass i am.....Jesus christ dude.
You probably just say that shit cause you dont know? jk..lol

Aka_Eshelmen

06-06-2003 04:20 PM

Re: god
 
[quote=Swill1496]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":d1e3a
its really sad you dn't know what the battle of the bulge was, yet you post on the forum that deals with a WW 2 game


I`m sorry i`m not like you wasting my time on a forum.
I have a life, sports, school, just got my license, yet of course you badger me when i have the balls to go in to this forum and ask for help omfg what an ass i am.....Jesus christ dude.
You probably just say that shit cause you dont know? jk..lol

Aka_Eshelmen[/quote:d1e3a]

I guess you either don't pay attention is school or your history teacher is a fucking moron, or whoever set the curriculum is a fucking moron.
At my school they mentioned the Battle of the Bulge in enough detail to know why they named it that.

Schools are getting more and more to where they less and less time teaching and more and more time on sports, political correctness, and turning the kids into sniveling,grabasstic civilian messes just like the school board members

Cethin 06-06-2003 05:01 PM

The Battle of the Bulge, also known as the Ardennes Offensive, was a planned "surprise" attack on the Allied forces by Hitler. He planned to strike in the middle of the defensive by creating a "bulge" in the resistance and capture key cities (Bastonge).

He failed though as the 101st Airborne Division got their before his Panzer divisions did. The well known "Aw, Nuts" response from Brigader General McAuliffe when the Nazi's demanded that they surrendered the city to them.

Uhmm... well a long story short, we planned a counter offensive that split the forces to the north and south and pinched the bulge and concentrated the Axis forces in a small village where they surrendered.

Jotun 06-06-2003 05:03 PM

it was Hitler's last offensive attack, like the other people said it created a bulge in the line...the bulge was pushed back 45 miles... Hilter lost because he was a stupid Nazi and the allies won

Cethin 06-06-2003 05:08 PM

Hitler lost because he trusted no one and had VERY little military experience. He was only a Corporal in the Great War and did not go to any military school.

[]PanZeR 06-06-2003 05:13 PM

not to mention he was a complete psychopath

T.Hunter 06-06-2003 05:21 PM

the real reason why they lost is the german army's morale was down, no aircover (due to heavy clouds) and determined allied forces. even tho the germans where very well eqipped! as everybody said it was hitlers "last ditch" offensive to try to push the allies back.

Cethin 06-06-2003 06:04 PM

Not to mention his Air Assault named the "Big Blow" where they just bombed the Allied Air Fields, but they lost many of their trained pilots and good planes.

Zap. USMC 06-06-2003 07:14 PM

Stryker, you also have to think about what the teachers are told to teach. My 11th grade History teacher loves WWII and Vietnam, but he couldn't mention a few battles because the Board of Education requires him to touch on so many subjects in our history in so little time. Sure, he'd most likely go through ever major battle and explain what took place... but he didn't have the time to accomplish that.

See, we take a test called the "Regents" in NY state. The History Regents has a set curriculum and my history teacher has that. So it would be useless to teach kids about "Battle of the Buldge" when they really don't need to know about it. And again, he has not allot of time to teach what "needs" to be teached.

You get what I'm saying?? High School history won't go in-depth on certain battles. They'll have to wait for that in College.

06-06-2003 07:28 PM

Re: god
 
[quote="Sgt Stryker":5aa69][quote=Swill1496]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":5aa69
its really sad you dn't know what the battle of the bulge was, yet you post on the forum that deals with a WW 2 game


I`m sorry i`m not like you wasting my time on a forum.
I have a life, sports, school, just got my license, yet of course you badger me when i have the balls to go in to this forum and ask for help omfg what an ass i am.....Jesus christ dude.
You probably just say that shit cause you dont know? jk..lol

Aka_Eshelmen[/quote:5aa69]

I guess you either don't pay attention is school or your history teacher is a fucking moron, or whoever set the curriculum is a fucking moron.
At my school they mentioned the Battle of the Bulge in enough detail to know why they named it that.

Schools are getting more and more to where they less and less time teaching and more and more time on sports, political correctness, and turning the kids into sniveling,grabasstic civilian messes just like the school board members[/quote:5aa69]

history teachers have nothing to do with this. they are not obligated to teach you this type of stuff like why it's named like that. heck my teacher never taught me anything about omaha beach. that dosnt mean i dont know a shit load about it. you people have alot of advantages. the internet and tv. books too. use them

MrLevinstein 06-06-2003 08:01 PM

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":a419b]Stryker, you also have to think about what the teachers are told to teach. My 11th grade History teacher loves WWII and Vietnam, but he couldn't mention a few battles because the Board of Education requires him to touch on so many subjects in our history in so little time. Sure, he'd most likely go through ever major battle and explain what took place... but he didn't have the time to accomplish that.

See, we take a test called the "Regents" in NY state. The History Regents has a set curriculum and my history teacher has that. So it would be useless to teach kids about "Battle of the Buldge" when they really don't need to know about it. And again, he has not allot of time to teach what "needs" to be teached.[/quote:a419b]

I am in accelerated 9th grade world history... We only basically learn about European,Middle Eastern and Chinese civilizations. We talked about African and South American civilizations for a combined 2 days. They just cover whats on the regents they dont have any time for other things.

06-06-2003 08:08 PM

[quote=mikesnacki]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Cpt. Zapotoski":22647
Stryker, you also have to think about what the teachers are told to teach. My 11th grade History teacher loves WWII and Vietnam, but he couldn't mention a few battles because the Board of Education requires him to touch on so many subjects in our history in so little time. Sure, he'd most likely go through ever major battle and explain what took place... but he didn't have the time to accomplish that.

See, we take a test called the "Regents" in NY state. The History Regents has a set curriculum and my history teacher has that. So it would be useless to teach kids about "Battle of the Buldge" when they really don't need to know about it. And again, he has not allot of time to teach what "needs" to be teached.

I am in accelerated 9th grade world history... We only basically learn about European,Middle Eastern and Chinese civilizations. We talked about African and South American civilizations for a combined 2 days. They just cover whats on the regents they dont have any time for other things.[/quote:22647]

we covered WWII in US History.
I really think that that is where WWII belongs because it's the war that led to the maturation of the USA as a world player (wheras before we just stuck to our hemisphere)

Innoxx 06-06-2003 08:16 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":4636a][quote=mikesnacki]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Cpt. Zapotoski":4636a
Stryker, you also have to think about what the teachers are told to teach. My 11th grade History teacher loves WWII and Vietnam, but he couldn't mention a few battles because the Board of Education requires him to touch on so many subjects in our history in so little time. Sure, he'd most likely go through ever major battle and explain what took place... but he didn't have the time to accomplish that.

See, we take a test called the "Regents" in NY state. The History Regents has a set curriculum and my history teacher has that. So it would be useless to teach kids about "Battle of the Buldge" when they really don't need to know about it. And again, he has not allot of time to teach what "needs" to be teached.

I am in accelerated 9th grade world history... We only basically learn about European,Middle Eastern and Chinese civilizations. We talked about African and South American civilizations for a combined 2 days. They just cover whats on the regents they dont have any time for other things.[/quote:4636a]

we covered WWII in US History.
I really think that that is where WWII belongs because it's the war that led to the maturation of the USA as a world player (wheras before we just stuck to our hemisphere)[/quote:4636a]

Well WW2 played a big part in any nations' history.

06-06-2003 08:48 PM

[quote=Innoxx][quote="Sgt Stryker":e0968]
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesnacki
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Cpt. Zapotoski":e0968
Stryker, you also have to think about what the teachers are told to teach. My 11th grade History teacher loves WWII and Vietnam, but he couldn't mention a few battles because the Board of Education requires him to touch on so many subjects in our history in so little time. Sure, he'd most likely go through ever major battle and explain what took place... but he didn't have the time to accomplish that.

See, we take a test called the "Regents" in NY state. The History Regents has a set curriculum and my history teacher has that. So it would be useless to teach kids about "Battle of the Buldge" when they really don't need to know about it. And again, he has not allot of time to teach what "needs" to be teached.

I am in accelerated 9th grade world history... We only basically learn about European,Middle Eastern and Chinese civilizations. We talked about African and South American civilizations for a combined 2 days. They just cover whats on the regents they dont have any time for other things.

we covered WWII in US History.
I really think that that is where WWII belongs because it's the war that led to the maturation of the USA as a world player (wheras before we just stuck to our hemisphere)[/quote:e0968]

Well WW2 played a big part in any nations' history.[/quote:e0968]

true, but you know how self-centered yanks are biggrin:

Stinger_Dude 06-06-2003 09:25 PM

During the battle of the Bulge wasnt their a mass retreat of the German Forces when they got trpped in that bulge and the allied forces surrounded them. The only chance of escape was through that thin gap between the allied forces and resulted in a massacre of the Germans?

06-06-2003 09:47 PM

[quote="Stinger_Dude":a05c6]During the battle of the Bulge wasnt their a mass retreat of the German Forces when they got trpped in that bulge and the allied forces surrounded them. The only chance of escape was through that thin gap between the allied forces and resulted in a massacre of the Germans?[/quote:a05c6]

I believe that was the escape from the Falaise pocket in Normandy after Patton...well...Pattoned biggrin: his way across the countryside and left the Germans with Brits in their front and Patton in their rear evil:

pest 06-07-2003 07:33 PM

I had a bit of an extreme liberal for a world history teacher. she taught us everything leading up to WWII with the next chapter being the actual war. She told us that she hated war and wouldnt teach us about it. All we were required to learn was the mojor turning points of the war and then we moved on to immediately after VE and VJ day. A huge disappointment, but it didnt stop me from learning as much as I could. My dad had a bunch of books on WWII. Mostly pacific and centered around naval and air battles. I never paid much attention to the european war until MOH sparked my interest again.

Ydiss 06-07-2003 08:45 PM

Right, for fuck sake.

Someone comes here to ask a question?

Answer it or don't fucking bother to reply to the thread.

I didn't know what the battle of the bulge was exactly. Just like I don't know what my next door neighbour's name is.

I doubt I ever will know what their name is until I ask them myself.

-knock knock- Hello, I'm your next door neighbour... How are you? Nice to meet you... What's your name?

Neighbour: its really sad you dn't know what my name is, yet you live in the same block of appartments as me

-slam door-


You fucking retards. No one knows anything until someone tells them. If everyone had the "OMG I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NOOB" attitude we'd all still be swinging in fucking trees.

Thanks to those who actually had the decency to reply with helpful answers.

Old Reliable 06-08-2003 08:36 PM

It's quite ignorant to ask such a quesiton when you are better off searching for it on your own and getting an even better answer. intelligence is weak with him!

06-08-2003 08:42 PM

hahah true. so true

Ydiss 06-09-2003 12:45 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":8385c]It's quite ignorant to ask such a quesiton when you are better off searching for it on your own and getting an even better answer. intelligence is weak with him![/quote:8385c]
It's quite ignorant when you don't even know what "ignorant" means.

Lacking education or knowledge.
Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
Unaware or uninformed.

Nowhere in that description does it say: Lacking desire to find out things for oneself by searching online using google.

This is a discussion forum. About a game that has a WWII theme.

You'd hazard a fucking guess that some of the members here would know something about that war. And, as I can see quite a few good answers in this thread, I would hazard a guess that I am right.

My point is that the negative replies are belligerant, pointless and self-gratifying.

If you don't have anything positive to say then don't bother fucking saying it.

Anything else is just spam.

pest 06-09-2003 06:29 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":0aa26]It's quite ignorant to ask such a quesiton when you are better off searching for it on your own and getting an even better answer. intelligence is weak with him![/quote:0aa26]

How does old reliable make it all this time when ed and strik0r get banned? It has to be one of the great mysterys of this forum. hake:

Swill 06-09-2003 10:25 AM

WTF
 
God i asked for one fucking question, what does it meen?
WTF....you are the ignorant ones to bull shit with me when i actually thought that this would be an excellent place for me to get answers, and old reliable i did look it up on the net. PLUS this is an elective report not a history report so i dont give a shit what you guys say about my school, i didnt pick European history for this year"9th" grade which i`m in.I`m taking that next year for my sophomore year....Anything else?
M16: M16: mad:

Old Reliable 06-09-2003 11:00 AM

http://www.google.com

search battle of the bulge

sooo difficult hake:

Simo Häyhä 06-09-2003 11:02 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":773a4]www.google.com

search battle of the bulge

sooo difficult hake:[/quote:773a4]http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=163606
the following thread is old reliable asking for help on a history subject

lol sorry man =]

pest 06-09-2003 11:03 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":4622d]I'm very intreested in learning about this little known operation, what are the best books on it?[/quote:4622d]


[quote="Old Reliable":4622d]www.google.com

search *******

sooo difficult hake:[/quote:4622d]

pest 06-09-2003 11:04 AM

LOL - beat me to it Simo.

Old Reliable 06-09-2003 11:07 AM

that is much different, I was asking people's opinions on what the best books on the subject would be. i already know what eben emael is

06-09-2003 11:09 AM

Re: WTF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swill1496
God i asked for one fucking question, what does it meen?
WTF....you are the ignorant ones to bull shit with me when i actually thought that this would be an excellent place for me to get answers, and old reliable i did look it up on the net. PLUS this is an elective report not a history report so i dont give a shit what you guys say about my school, i didnt pick European history for this year"9th" grade which i`m in.I`m taking that next year for my sophomore year....Anything else?
M16: M16: mad:

you're in 9th grade and in an earlier post you claimed you had a life biggrin: biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

just kidding of course evil:

At my school fresh meat...uh..I mean Freshmen studied on a separate campus from 10-12, but it still sucked, my English teacher was evil and we had to read "O Pioneers", my God that was a terribly boring book

Simo Häyhä 06-09-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest
LOL - beat me to it Simo.

heh sorry

pest 06-09-2003 11:09 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":18e21]that is much different, I was asking people's opinions on what the best books on the subject would be. i already know what eben emael is[/quote:18e21]

Translation - It's OK because it is me. It is perfectly fine for me to make an ass out of myself and flame others, but they are idiots if they do the same.

Response - grow up.

Old Reliable 06-09-2003 11:15 AM

you did not read my post at all, you created a connection that isn't there. nice try. apparently ferich was able to read and respond!

Zoner 06-09-2003 11:17 AM

Guys give it a fucking rest will ya? The pointless flaming is getting old and is unnecessary.

pest 06-09-2003 11:22 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":cc0fb]you did not read my post at all, you created a connection that isn't there. nice try. apparently ferich was able to read and respond![/quote:cc0fb]

Heh, are you referring to the post where he gave you this

[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0891416641/103-7437600-2679068?vi=glance"]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ?vi=glance[/url]

Which just happened to be 1st return on google that is in English????

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=U ... gle+Search


Nope, you're still and ass and a hypocrit.


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