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Bucknub 06-26-2003 06:55 PM

Watch out P2P users
 
read this, they're cracking down on file sharers

[url:e2728]http://news.com.com/2100-1027-1020876.html?tag=nl[/url:e2728]

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Dj RaNnY kAn 06-26-2003 06:59 PM

ahh that sucks

Strik0r 06-26-2003 07:00 PM

sounds like a load of BS but glad i don't use kazaa

although i suppose they'll get a counter-suit from each person over invasion of privacy or such

Arch 06-26-2003 07:01 PM

could be possible for some people to get caught oOo:

but as long there is the internet, there will be file sharing etc.

1080jibber 06-26-2003 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
sounds like a load of BS but glad i don't use kazaa

although i suppose they'll get a counter-suit from each person over invasion of privacy or such


same thing as what Strik0r said, it is BS to scare everyoone

is it an invasion of privacy?

Strik0r 06-26-2003 07:16 PM

in a california court easily but i'm sure a convincing argument could be made on it in just about any court. big brother type of stuff.

1080jibber 06-26-2003 07:32 PM

is this only in the USA? anyone....anyone?

[img]http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/criminals.jpg[/img]

Infernal_ 06-26-2003 07:48 PM

funny how cnet news is telling us when cnet hosts all p2p software oOo:

this will never happen too many people do it there are at LEAST a million lol

Bucknub 06-26-2003 07:51 PM

and I just realized there was thread already on this topic oOo:

Miscguy 06-26-2003 11:21 PM

[quote:8d744]The association will then serve subpoenas on the ISPs to identify the individuals. It expects the first round of suits to be filed as early as August[/quote:8d744]

Internet privacy act anyone? Last I recall your ISP will never give out information on its users. they can hunt all they want, its not about how many files 1 or even 1000 people have. Its about how many people have the 1 file you want. So they may get the "big" ones. But the power of P2P is shear number of users. They simply dont seem to grasp that.

11 Bravo 06-26-2003 11:30 PM

They're a bunch of morons. they can't possibly catch em all. (hears a knock on the door)

1080jibber 06-27-2003 12:04 AM

can someone find a link that has this Internet privacy act

Unknown_Sniper 06-27-2003 03:37 PM

Only a couple ways they can really stop us from sharing. Viruses and worms = illegal, Sewing kazaa for hosting this = wont hold up b/c kazaa isnt doing anything wrong, Getting everyone = mass lawsuit against music lables for intrusion of privacy, depriving childeren of an education (lawsuits have to be carieed out sometime and hte school year is big), mental trauma, wrongful suit lawsuits, and lots of violence and rioting. Lose lose for music lables if they try anything stupid.

ED 06-27-2003 03:43 PM

They can sue anyone who's illegal hosting music. Child, or adult. There more than likely WILL be a backlash against the RIAA. The large bloc of youngster who DID buy ANY CRAP that was put out but became more selective what they actually purchased, will NOT suddenly flock back to spending all that money on store cds. Not gonna happen. When the sales figures stay the same, then the RIAA is going to have to face the realization that the consumer is sick of the prices, quality, and delivery system that is in place now.

pest 06-27-2003 03:48 PM

Millions of hackers and filesharers are more resourceful than a handful of lawyers. They will just provide the catalyst for the next mode of p2p transfer.

SoLiDUS 06-27-2003 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest
Millions of hackers and filesharers are more resourceful than a handful of lawyers. They will just provide the catalyst for the next mode of p2p transfer.


Ditto

06-28-2003 01:16 PM

even if they do catch you, what will the crime be?

BloodBorn 06-28-2003 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
even if they do catch you, what will the crime be?

Having a copywrited product without the "makers" consent.

BloodBorn 06-28-2003 02:04 PM

Post Scriptum.

They can't shut down p2p networks.....because file sharing isn't illegal. But file sharing corpywrited material is. For all they know I might be sharing a thesis on "Tweaking your computer" on a *.txt file and as long as I give my consent that this can be legally distributed it's not illegal.

And since kazaa is mainly a file sharing peer to peer network then it will next to impossible to close it down.......same with Direct Connect.

what can be done in kazaa is simply this........."cencoring" (basically banning files with those names) words like Madonna, Metallica etc. like they did with napster (although you could go around that by spelling madonna like this m4donn4 , butthere were too many combinations to find anything).

Freddy C. 06-28-2003 02:04 PM

crap i use kazaa

11 Bravo 06-28-2003 05:22 PM

[quote="Freddy C.":cc306]crap i use kazaa[/quote:cc306]

Don't worry, even IF for some miracle they actually slow down Kazaa, 10 more P2P networks are liable to pop up in its place and the RIAA will find themselves even deeper in shit.

06-28-2003 05:32 PM

argh, i remember when they shut down Napster. It was a sad day for us all. Now i believe its up and running again, but you gotta pay a fee for every song. WTF

Old Reliable 06-28-2003 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1080jibber
can someone find a link that has this Internet privacy act

check out the congressional acts

Old Reliable 06-28-2003 11:02 PM

http://thomas.loc.gov/

Coleman 06-28-2003 11:26 PM

Serious question here: Could they catch you if you do not share your files at all?

I was thinking that they could bust on you for HAVING the file, but if you are tracking a file to be downloaded, you don't have any copywritten material to be shared....just a thought.

11 Bravo 06-28-2003 11:33 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":269e6]Serious question here: Could they catch you if you do not share your files at all?

I was thinking that they could bust on you for HAVING the file, but if you are tracking a file to be downloaded, you don't have any copywritten material to be shared....just a thought.[/quote:269e6]

I don't think they're after the small-time users that only download stuff, I don't see how they can trace that. I think they're after the providers of the files that are the cause of "the problem". Basically, the ones who share the most files.

Bucknub 06-28-2003 11:42 PM

wouldnt IRC be a problem for them aswell? I mean, you can get the WHOLE album of an artist off there and movies that havent been released yet and games aswell.

redhawk_six 06-28-2003 11:43 PM

Re: Watch out P2P users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
read this, they're cracking down on file sharers

[url:6b432]http://news.com.com/2100-1027-1020876.html?tag=nl[/url:6b432]

ed:

Bullshit. They're just trying to scare us. It's not possible, too many jurisdictional issues with that. Where would the trials be, the "crime" isn't being committed in one particular city, it's across the entire world. If it is criminalized, who (as in, which country's, district's, or city's police force) would be doing the arresting? EG: A Miami cop can't just hop on a plane to Vancouver, arrest a guy, then take him back to Miami, just because the guy downloaded some music from the net. That's absurred. hake:

I'm not worried, in fact, I'm on Kazaa, searching for a song right now.

06-29-2003 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
wouldnt IRC be a problem for them aswell? I mean, you can get the WHOLE album of an artist off there and movies that havent been released yet and games aswell.

IRC pwns the music industry and anything else that can be put on a computer....

they're going to be so unsuccessful at this i reckon, I reckon that privacy act will stand up in court...

BloodBorn 06-29-2003 06:22 AM

[quote="Garry Coleman":9fe02]Serious question here: Could they catch you if you do not share your files at all?

I was thinking that they could bust on you for HAVING the file, but if you are tracking a file to be downloaded, you don't have any copywritten material to be shared....just a thought.[/quote:9fe02]


ummm.........how about if you download from one of them oOo:

I mean....it's Entrapment but shit will hold up in court, like they cought a whole group by giving them a 10Mbit line and 700gigs of space :( . All they needed to do was to log all the IP numbers that connected to their server and downloaded things.

geRV 06-29-2003 06:26 AM

Lot of mad dogs shite as far as im concerned.

Unknown_Sniper 06-29-2003 12:15 PM

the music industry is tunring into the mafia. it sreally retarded. IF my band makes it big. SUre id like money. but you know what. Even then I wont pay for music. ITs too expensive. on average $20 and now its goign up.


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