My Thoughts on MOHAA Breakthrough
 

This game is the WORST from the MOHAA series yet!

I feel that if I was expected to spend my money on this, I would passout of laughter. There is no way that I will EVER be getting this game. It is 20 bucks of nothing but ripp off. I swear, instead of ripping people off they should make it a patch for Spearhead. This game IS spearhead, with the exception of some new weapons, skins, and 2 maps. PIECE OF SH*T.

Sorry I hate this and I hate this demo it all blows, it is worse than Spearhead. hake:

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breakthrough is out?

the demo is.


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Moved to Gen. Discussion.

oOo: yea

whatd you expect ? patch spearhead? its had what 2 patches ... spearhead has always sucked. i dont expect much from the demo so it isnt gonna be a let down to me.

I think the new prison game play is interesting...... I haven' t tried the demo yet still downloading. But if it's got no cheats i'd pay money for it.

thats the key for me..im sure its still relatively close to mohaas game play. im not stupid enough to believe it is not. but better yet, its a clean game for a little while...COD isnt far behind either. im all for this regardless of wether or not it seems like spearhead. and spearhead really isnt that bad of a game to begin with. in itself, spearhead is much better than alot of other FPS out there...not many are better than SH. AA and PS is about all i can think of.

Actually now that i tried the game, I dont think i like it as much as i thought i would. The game seems to be laggier than sh and liberation mode isn't that fun unless u have like 32 players on a server. I played on a server with 16 and it sucked, only a few people went to rescue prisoners and everybody else just camped around. I'm just going to get cod.

its shit. id rather play a decent game with cheaters. dont waste your time dling this load of shit.

EA can go just stick this fucking game up thier asses, It's terrible.

I think ea has done nothing wrong. I think they were trying to spend alot of there money to make breakthrought or pa golod then any other thing. SH failed so hopefully these will to

i just played 2 rounds. its the same as spearhead oOo:

even cod runs better on my pIII 800 biggrin:

horrible horrible game......AlliedAssault is still the champ

I just played that pos. Wtf is wrong with EA?

SpearHead with a new coloured sprinkle on top. Thats all folks.

[quote="Short Hand":55f43]SpearHead with a new coloured sprinkle on top. Thats all folks.[/quote:55f43]

So true. I will stick to Enemy Territory

It really is crap, IMO.

heh . guess im in the minority. i really liked sh, and i love breakthrough. you all can go whine away, i think they got it right this time.

I think that everyone expected too much out of this. You all knew it was going to be like SH. You can see that in the screenshots.

It was a FREE DEMO. When the full version comes out, I don't wanna hear the same people bitch about that, that bitched about this demo. If you say its shitty now, don't go out and buy the game then complain some more.

yes, mother :rolleyes

i think its great ..but then i love sh ..

but hay ..if you dont like it ..dont buy it ...thats why you get the demo for free..

as for me and my clan ..we have already worked a deal to get a bt server as soon as the game hits the shelves ..

and we are running a 24/7 demo server till then

Flagg

B T Demo
 

HI,

Well, I DL'd the 208MB file and loaded it. First server I went into was a laggy mess. Rather than brand this DEMO as a piece of SH** like most KIDS playing on a less than optimal computer, I decided to try a couple more servers.

My outlook: 5 Servers joined and 1 was crappy ( His Computer??? ) Others played well and I enjoyed my experience. Palermo is crowded and a snipers paradise. As a 30 year Army Veteran with 6 1/2 yrs in Vietnam I realize combat is frustrating. War and dying isn't with clear views of your enemy and Breakthrough brings this aspect of war into life in a quite realistic manner. War is hell, learn to sneak around and kill your enemy, not run around like a drugged nut shooting shadows and hoping for a kill. When you see Spartan playing, watch your back and your front and both sides, cuz I'll be there in the rubble to blast your ass.

DEMO gets a passing grade without calling it better than MOHAA.

Spartan

i usually play SH
 

[quote="Pvt Flagg":14937]
i think its great ..but then i love sh ..

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I really enjoy Spearhead, for the most part. However there is something about BT that left a bad taste in my mouth. These cookie cutter expansions are just starting to get under my skin I suppose. I will have to agree with the majority on this one... POS.

Re: B T Demo
 

the maps are a lot better than SH,

in SH it seems to me that they dumbed down the MOHAA maps to make it more running around up close and in the open like a bunch of children.
The demo map has a lot more good hiding spots and the city is all rubbelized and confusing (just as it should be after a couple hundred B-17s and a few cruisers got done shelling)
Also if you notice the actually made MGs kill with fewer hits and more accurate, but ROF is less and recoil is heavier (just as it should be)

Re: B T Demo
 

I personally didn't like it. I think the MOHAA family has become a little to disfunctional. It doesn't seem fun anymore. On the other hand, I do like the CoD demo and I can't wait for an MP beta.

OT: Spartan you need to stop by our site and forums. Just click the link under my sig. biggrin:

[quote:d73ec]Well, I DL'd the 208MB file and loaded it. First server I went into was a laggy mess. Rather than brand this DEMO as a piece of SH** like most KIDS playing on a less than optimal computer, I decided to try a couple more servers. [/quote:d73ec]

What servers did u join? I have a t1 connection and I always get around 100 ping where ever i go.

Servers To Join
 

I would recommend setting PING to <200 as a start. Then to test the game pick a server ( could be home machine ) with about 2 to 4 players. When entering the game check your own ping with TAB. If you are under 150 then you should play fairly well. I was in one server with 151 and it had a tad of lag. The other four I played on had pings of less than 60 and it was fun. I bet a coordinated attack by Allies or Axis using smoke grenades would be a frigging blast. But then again, not many people play like a squad. They play like a gaggel.

Spartan

Now i realise why EA dont support the comunity.....WE COULD MAKE Breaktrough and spearhead in a month with support!!!, IS SHIT, STILL HAVE A GAY REALISM THAT ALLOW A RUN & GUN FEST!!.

Still be a fucking quake with uniforms, lets make a grave for mohaa, not new thing...no progress = DEAD! mwah:

Re: i usually play SH
 

[quote=Sektion66]I really enjoy Spearhead, for the most part. However there is something about BT that left a bad taste in my mouth. These cookie cutter expansions are just starting to get under my skin I suppose. I will have to agree with the majority on this one... POS.[/quote:5cc15]



Please buddy.
-This is spearhead nothing much changed. I will bitch to the fact that no vehicles were availible in this demo. I feel the italian units should have been disabled for the demo and a couple vehicles availible to use.

I'm hoping against hope that the retail version has less cpu usage than the demo. At least maybe a patch to address it. I can tell you right now that this demo is more of a system hog than Battlefield!! We have been testing it on some of our dedicated servers and the results are not pretty. This game will die a horrible death if this is the case because no one will be able to afford a server for this game. Demo is a POS in my opinion, BTW. You can play this garbage on 64.5.63.3 This is running 24/7. Enjoy if you can.

Breakthrough....errrmmmm, new maps look pretty good, new skins/weapons are cool, Liberation mode is VERY laggy! However, oddly enough when the Obj map is run on the same server the lag dissapears. The liberation map is rendered virtually unplayable, hard enough getting from one side of the map to the other, let alone hitting anything. I agree with other points here...the liberation cutscenes suck, and the whole idea of liberation, while it seemed cool as an idea, in pratice is gonna cause more trouble than it's worth.

Will I buy it? Hmmm, dunno. If they fix the lag/framerate issues then I probably will.

Right, I'm off to give my SH clan-mates an ass kickin.

Re: i usually play SH
 

[quote="Short Hand":27e1a][quote=Sektion66]I really enjoy Spearhead, for the most part. However there is something about BT that left a bad taste in my mouth. These cookie cutter expansions are just starting to get under my skin I suppose. I will have to agree with the majority on this one... POS.[/quote:27e1a]



Please buddy.
-This is spearhead nothing much changed. I will bitch to the fact that no vehicles were availible in this demo. I feel the italian units should have been disabled for the demo and a couple vehicles availible to use.[/quote:27e1a]


I remember reading an interview with one of the TKO devs, he said they were going to leave vehicles out of the multiplayer component. Something about how they weren't meeting the quality of MoH standards. Lol, what standards. Sry I can't remember where I read it. Anyone hear about this?

One more thing about BT. The Mine Detector class is... um what's the word I'm looking for.. oh yeah... gay. It's time to move on from this series.

Found it
 

Here you go. This is from Gamespot, I don't think anything has changed since this interview. Sorry people, looks like you won't be driving much of anything... except yourself crazy for buying this Xpack.


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GS: We hear that players will get some new abilities in multiplayer games, like driving vehicles and calling in air strikes. What are some of the other abilities? What sorts of effects will these have on the gameplay?

JH: Unfortunately, due to time constraints, drivable vehicles will not be included in Breakthrough. Our goal from the beginning was to introduce new gameplay and features that enhanced the player's experience. Given the technology and time, we decided to sacrifice this to add more-impactful gameplay. The drivable vehicle code, while functional, wasn't up to the standards of Medal of Honor, and ultimately we weren't happy with the feature in the state it was in. We decided to pull the drivable vehicle feature to focus on the rest of the game, and quite honestly it was a small addition and the effort to perfect it wasn't worth the benefit.
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/mohaa ... 121-2.html

I'm glad they didn't put vehicles in, the last thing we need s BF-42 with tiny MOHAA maps oOo:

Its a demo
 

Guys stop and think for a second is it slightly possible that EA are shitting one cos there old buddies infinity ward look like having better sales than them?

So what do they do release a half assed demo that barely plays to hopefully win back support. Most certainly they read these and other posts and are now thinking ohhhhhh shit what have we done. The finished game should have a few of the creases worked out and some of the crap i noticed gone. For instance in liberation mode notice that the guys in the firing squad with pistols have no bullets lol. Or in the menu there is no texture for the cant vote on this server?

When EA finally wake up to themselves and realise games are not just for easily pleased kids who they can rip off we will all be happy..


end rant
regards scorp

Re: B T Demo
 

Seriously. Game was completely fucking lame. EA has millions of dollars, and releasing something like this is just looney. I think I enjoy stirring dog shit on a hot, humid day with my tongue than playing this waste of disk space.

My other favorite quote EA made about breakthrough was something along the lines of... Breakthrough is based mostly on single player enjoyment, which is what most users purchase the game for...

ummm i guess thats why they only released a multiplayer demo, right?

Contradiction, after Contradiction after contridiction....


bigzooka: EA M16:

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":fb1e8]My other favorite quote EA made about breakthrough was something along the lines of... Breakthrough is based mostly on single player enjoyment, which is what most users purchase the game for...

ummm i guess thats why they only released a multiplayer demo, right?

Contradiction, after Contradiction after contridiction....


bigzooka: EA M16:[/quote:fb1e8]

Like COD releasing a Single player demo for a Multiplayer game?

Played it, disliked it - just like SH.

The fundamental issue with the two expansions is that they did away with the sturdy (if a little glitchy) net-code and rendering routines that 2015 developed (or, they kept them but failed to improve them to incorporate all the extra workload).

Just played on a 35 ping server with two other low ping players and yet it was still mostly guesswork when it came to aiming. The sheer jerkiness totally ruins the experience. Whoever enjoys SH and BT is a masochist no other way about it.

It's not just the maps, either. It's the core of the game that is at fault. Whoever tacked on the new skins, weapons and scripting totally ignored the counter-factors of gameplay, performance and diversity.

Btw, the liberation mode is so jerky because of the scripting, most likely. Whereas 2015 (and 95% of the bloody players who try their hand at scripting) managed to create scripting for objectives that was simple and effective and that ran smoothly, EA just seemed to have taken what was there and added loads to it (without thinking of what it may do to the game).

It's like they read the "Scripting for idiots" book and butchered the notepad files with reams of text that does the job, but in a way that demands your PC's attention so much that it has to neglect graphics rendering and network updates for every single cycle of the game.

Poor.

That EA passed the develoment of PA to TKO may just be the single reason it doesn't fail misserably (except in the eyes of weird masochistic WWII fans who think that a pretty game is a good game).

But then they're up against COD (and HL2, probably)... No chance. They're just not on the same higgins boat at all.