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11-26-2003 02:51 PM

gun control
 
what's everyone's stance on gun control?

I say that basically they need to run a background check to make sure you haven't been in prison, the nuthouse, and you haven't been investigated for domestic abuse or rape. If you haven't done any of these you can basically buy any gun you want, including full autos. (provided that you are an adult)
one should however have to get a license to carry concealed or open weapons in the streets.

I think the best deterrent to criminals is knowing that they may face instant death or a month in the hospital followed by prosecution if they chose to commit crimes.

geRV 11-26-2003 02:51 PM

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Other%20pics/guncontrolworkswhatsisname.jpg[/img]

^^ Enough said.

11-26-2003 02:57 PM

very valid Gerard,

and with The (un) Patriot Act in effect and not likely to be struck down as unconstitutional anytime soon, I recommend that every American buys one or more firearms if they do not yet own any (preferrably longarms) before Asscroft says that Al Quaeda may pose as citizens to buy guns and takes ours.

Zoner 11-26-2003 03:04 PM

Guns don't kill peop...

No wait, yes they do. Forget it.

Eames 11-26-2003 03:08 PM

Re: gun control
 
[quote="Sgt Stryker":221c5]what's everyone's stance on gun control?

I say that basically they need to run a background check to make sure you haven't been in prison, the nuthouse, and you haven't been investigated for domestic abuse or rape. If you haven't done any of these you can basically buy any gun you want, including full autos. (provided that you are an adult)
one should however have to get a license to carry concealed or open weapons in the streets.

I think the best deterrent to criminals is knowing that they may face instant death or a month in the hospital followed by prosecution if they chose to commit crimes.[/quote:221c5]

Wow! the world must be ending because I agree with something stryker has said for once...and nicely said in the picture gerard.

ninty 11-26-2003 03:19 PM

I don't think thats the answer at all.

Why is it necessary to have full auto weapons and handguns? It's not necessary.

Police in many England son't even carry weapons because firearms are tough to get ahold of. So most likley a criminal won't have a firearm. If you cut that out, its not necessary for the police to have them either.

I don't have a problem with weapons for hunting, most of those who have them are not the criminal type, and unless their stolen, they are not going to be used in a crime. The types of weapons used in crimes are pistols and other such weapons.

Go after the illegal/big ass weapons an leave the hunters alone.

11-26-2003 03:21 PM

the problem in America is we don't control our borders worth shit.
smugglers routinely bring in drugs, guns, even PEOPLE!
This means that the black market is alive and well, so there's no reason for criminals to buy guns legally, they could be traced.
I think if we banned guns in the US, only criminals would have them.

plus we're a little paraniod about the knuckleheads we elect to government biggrin:

11-26-2003 03:23 PM

Ya 'know Eames , we are gonna get labled as rednecks but......

I agree as well , I have a sign in the Garage facing out from my door to the house that reads...

Trespassers will be shot , Surviours will be shot again.

ninty 11-26-2003 03:24 PM

Yeah, true I never thought of that.

So then why is it that many european countries don't have the supply of weapons coming in like the states does? In Canada we don't have much of a problem with weapons, but the government does dick all in preventing weapons from coming into the country. The demand just isn't here for weapons.

Zoner 11-26-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
The demand just isn't here for weapons.

That's because we don't want our moose or caribou meat peppered with 9mm rounds! Hard on the teeth... biggrin:

11-26-2003 03:27 PM

[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":f0d48]Ya 'know Eames , we are gonna get labled as rednecks but......

I agree as well , I have a sign in the Garage facing out from my door to the house that reads...

Trespassers will be shot , Surviours will be shot again.[/quote:f0d48]

that's hardly redneck in my opinion, you have the right to defend your house and your family from criminals. IMO crminals forfeit their lives when they chose to threaten teh innocent.
I'm sure your sign only applies to criminals, not the neighbors kids or anything biggrin:

11-26-2003 03:29 PM

lol , It was something only Eames would understand.

But I'll fill you in....

We were just talking about the Confederate flag and its meaning. Got a lot of flack , we were the only ones defending it for its true meaning , not the slavery , racist crap.

Bean 2 11-26-2003 03:29 PM

I agree on the background checks and everything but i dont agree with stryker when u say that if thats all checked out then u should be able to buy a gun. What happens if a man finds out his wife has been cheating on him and he then goes to the shop and buys a pistol and caps the slut and the shit whose sleeping with her? Not a good idea to be able to buy a weapon in the same day. I think the waiting period should be even longer then it is now. I think its a week but i could be wrong. And really there is no point to full auto weapons and pistols. Rifles and shotguns are understandable cause there used for hunting. But im not gonna bolt in a fifty cal. to a jeep and go hunting for wabbits.

Sergeant_Scrotum 11-26-2003 03:30 PM

im not touching this soon to be flame war with a 10 meter pole.

11-26-2003 03:33 PM

I agree with the idea of puchasing full automatic weapons.

Not for hunting of corse , for defence.
And I know what you are gonna say.....

But I will never sacrafice Freedom for security.

11-26-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
Yeah, true I never thought of that.

So then why is it that many european countries don't have the supply of weapons coming in like the states does? In Canada we don't have much of a problem with weapons, but the government does dick all in preventing weapons from coming into the country. The demand just isn't here for weapons.

I read somewhere that some European countries actually have a higher per-capita violent crime rate than the US, despite (or maybe because of) the lack of guns, its hard to judge, Switzerland has guns up the wazoo and a low crime rate. It could be however, that they're simply more disciplined than most other people, including Americans.

11-26-2003 03:37 PM

[quote="Bean 2":85467]I agree on the background checks and everything but i dont agree with stryker when u say that if thats all checked out then u should be able to buy a gun. What happens if a man finds out his wife has been cheating on him and he then goes to the shop and buys a pistol and caps the slut and the shit whose sleeping with her? Not a good idea to be able to buy a weapon in the same day. I think the waiting period should be even longer then it is now. I think its a week but i could be wrong. And really there is no point to full auto weapons and pistols. Rifles and shotguns are understandable cause there used for hunting. But im not gonna bolt in a fifty cal. to a jeep and go hunting for wabbits.[/quote:85467]

depends on the region of the US, I think in Oregon and California they regularly have invasions of bears or mountain lions. I think there was even a family video wher their Golden Retriever almost got killed by a bear. If I lived there I would have a friggin' Barret or Kalashnikov in my gun closet, any bear decides to make a meal of my dog and I'd turn him into a swiss cheese. M16:

Bean 2 11-26-2003 04:03 PM

u can take a bear out with a shotty and most rifles. Just dont be caught with a 22 or all ull do is piss the fucker off.

Sergeant_Scrotum 11-26-2003 04:12 PM

you guys are so full of fear down there. you always are thinking of what your gonna do if someone breaks into yuor home or some mountin lion comes after your dog. why not just let the dog back in the house? you dont need a damn elephant gun to protect your dog. you guys spend WAY to much time worring about things that very well could happen to you but chanses are never will.

Short Hand 11-26-2003 04:15 PM

How Many Hand Gun Deaths per 1 million happen per year in the states ? Now Lets compare that to every other First World country in the world.

bukdez 11-26-2003 04:20 PM

[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":29a68]I agree as well , I have a sign in the Garage facing out from my door to the house that reads...

Trespassers will be shot , Surviours will be shot again.[/quote:29a68]


didn't you once say that you are a buddhist?

11-26-2003 04:22 PM

Roger that.

Self awareness and balance in life has very little to with the fact I will kill people who threaten my familly.

Bean 2 11-26-2003 04:54 PM

[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":4cb76]Roger that.

Self awareness and balance in life has very little to with the fact I will kill people who threaten my familly.[/quote:4cb76]

I thought buddhist preach that every living thing has a purpose and should not be harmed not matter how awful the creature is?

Rott3n 11-26-2003 05:25 PM

To purchase a firearm in the United States from a gun shop you need to have an instant background check, where the gun shop owner calls a branch of the FBI and they do an instant background check for felonies and restraining orders. People say that some guns are okay, but handguns are not, but that is anti-gun propaganda coming from the media. I would rather be shot with any handgun than a shotgun or a deer rifle. Full automatic weapons can be purchased, but you have to have a special class 3 license and also be licensed by your state and town of residence; they are very hard and expensive to get. The weapons also cost thousands and they are no longer manufactured for the public. I also believe that you now need a destructive devices license to purchase some semi-auto .50 BMG rifles.

Eames 11-26-2003 05:31 PM

[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":bdd2a]Ya 'know Eames , we are gonna get labled as rednecks but......

I agree as well , I have a sign in the Garage facing out from my door to the house that reads...

Trespassers will be shot , Surviours will be shot again.[/quote:bdd2a]

lol that sign is everywhere down south

Johnj 11-26-2003 05:33 PM

Gun control means hitting your target.

geRV 11-26-2003 05:44 PM

[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":ec238]Self awareness and balance in life has very little to with the fact I will kill people who threaten my familly.[/quote:ec238]

Got bullshit? Yup..thought so.. rolleyes:

11-26-2003 06:59 PM

You guys are thinking of Hinduism , I dont worship cows , unless they are in the form of a T-Bone.

guarnere 11-26-2003 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clubber
To purchase a firearm in the United States from a gun shop you need to have an instant background check, where the gun shop owner calls a branch of the FBI and they do an instant background check for felonies and restraining orders. People say that some guns are okay, but handguns are not, but that is anti-gun propaganda coming from the media. I would rather be shot with any handgun than a shotgun or a deer rifle. Full automatic weapons can be purchased, but you have to have a special class 3 license and also be licensed by your state and town of residence; they are very hard and expensive to get. The weapons also cost thousands and they are no longer manufactured for the public. I also believe that you now need a destructive devices license to purchase some semi-auto .50 BMG rifles.

yeah, i used to work in the sporting goods section of wal-mart and its called the 4473 form...and in all places that sell guns you have to fill this form out...its cool, i got to talk to the FBI a lot, they're funny biggrin:

Cpt. Obvious 11-26-2003 09:15 PM

if some guy broke into my house i would just bust out the 7 iron.......four!


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