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snipeymagoo 12-11-2003 07:54 PM

Gun control?
 
I myself am against it, Aus got rid of all of their guns, their crime rate went up, along with the murder and stolen property.....so I have heard....it sounds really stupid, but if more people had guns the crime rate would go down because a criminal isnt going to come into your house unarmed if he thinks you have a gun in the dresser beside your bed....

Merlin122 12-11-2003 08:04 PM

more laws=more crime.... u can have your guns. i've never touched a single one... have fun

Sergeant_Scrotum 12-11-2003 08:13 PM

its not gun control we need. its moron control.

Merlin122 12-11-2003 08:22 PM

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":06ac2]its not gun control we need. its moron control.[/quote:06ac2]

no man. im not getting tied up again

guarnere 12-11-2003 08:22 PM

i really havnt given it any thought really...im not sure how hard it is to get a gun illegally...but im pretty sure that most of the guns used in crimes are either stolen from someone they may or may not know...or just be their own...obtaining a gun isnt all that difficult...but you must fill out a form (4473)...now while that syphons most of the fuck tards out, its got its loop holes...just like everything else...if they were to employ some sort of gun control there will be loop holes...

i myself own a gun (kar 98) and my father owns an ak47...i feel safe in my home...now....while i use my gun for target shooting and just for the collectable aspect...my fathers gun is used for home protection and for recreational target pratice...here are some pics wink:

[img]http://24.58.163.208/mymauser.jpg[/img]
[img]http://24.58.163.208/ak_05.jpg[/img]

Merlin122 12-11-2003 08:27 PM

... you have such soft hands

guarnere 12-11-2003 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin122
... you have such soft hands

happy:

Is This Teh 70s? 12-11-2003 08:46 PM

Hey what's up, I'm pissed off, but nice guns, don't shoot people!

catalyst 12-11-2003 09:31 PM

I think people should be allowed to have guns, but not automatic rifles, there is no point to having an AR. Guns are to hunt (rifles or shotguns) or for protection (pistols would protect you more than enough) Allowing ARs is just asking for trouble so I think the should be banned completely from civilians

Merlin122 12-11-2003 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by catalyst
I think people should be allowed to have guns, but not automatic rifles, there is no point to having an AR. Guns are to hunt (rifles or shotguns) or for protection (pistols would protect you more than enough) Allowing ARs is just asking for trouble so I think the should be banned completely from civilians

oh darn. i ever so did enjoy those balmy summer nights mowing down black bears with my RPK light machine gun cry:

Rott3n 12-11-2003 09:41 PM

Automatic weapons are very hard to get and cost a shit load making it a rich mans hobby. Some states dont even issue permits for them anymore. Your gun gets tied up with the ATF for a long time wile the do there papper work and other stuff.

Fireal 12-11-2003 09:41 PM

Who cares?
Let them have what they want.
Doesnt matter if its A pistol, or a AR.
Who cares?

Maplegyver 12-11-2003 09:46 PM

umm
in good ol' canada you cant pwn an AR but rifles and shotguns are legal.as long as they are registerd.
i want a magnum rock:

Madmartagen 12-11-2003 10:29 PM

i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.

ShagNasty 12-11-2003 10:42 PM

[quote:539cc]i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.
[/quote:539cc]


you will beat back his bullets? bruce lee could not beat a bullet but you can tough guy.

Madmartagen 12-11-2003 10:47 PM

guns dont kill people, death kills people. you cant die from a small piece of metal, you die from a heart attack or cancer. its a medical fact.

Sgt>Stackem 12-12-2003 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.

hunting is gay??????? When you cut your mommas strings let us know, let me guess you are from a broken home. No male influence. RIGHT. Guns are for a whole lot more than hunting and protection. We here in the greatest country in the world the USA!!!!! Have rights, among those rights is the right to overthrow the govt if "we the people" see it fit. You cant do that with sticks and rocks. Im not saying this would ever happen but we have to be able to do so if it ever did.

pest 12-12-2003 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.

I could go on and on about this post, but if you think huntng is strictly about the meat or that you could kick anyones ass that decides to invade your home, then there is probably no reasoning with you.


Oh and BTW, clintons assault rifle ban expires next year. Dont expect to see the current administration renew it. hellfire: That law was so random and ineffective, it needs to die.

Tystnad 12-12-2003 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
guns dont kill people, death kills people. you cant die from a small piece of metal, you die from a heart attack or cancer. its a medical fact.

That true?
So, if i threw a tiny knife in yer throat, that wouldnt kill you?

Oddball 12-13-2003 11:57 AM

Re: Gun control?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold
I myself am against it, Aus got rid of all of their guns, their crime rate went up, along with the murder and stolen property.....so I have heard....it sounds really stupid, but if more people had guns the crime rate would go down because a criminal isnt going to come into your house unarmed if he thinks you have a gun in the dresser beside your bed....

Australia controlled guns and our crime rate went up? What frigging planet are you on, mate? I am actually proud of the fact that only 69 people per year in Australia are killed by guns. Compare that to the US 11,000. Auto rifles and handguns should be controlled. Hunting rifles and shotguns are OK. In Australia, the only people I know who own guns are people who live on properties and guns are used to control pests and threats to livestock.

also, increasing the no. of guns is going to make the crime rate soar. the scenario you depict sounds OK. but arguements on the street are going to end up with someone dead rather than someone with a black eye.

Also if people come out with the "control guns, then you'd have to control other stuff like knives" is BS. You can run away from a guy with a knife. I'd much rather swallow my pride and bolt and live, rather than take on a guy with a knife.

12-13-2003 01:36 PM

We need guns to protect ourselves from people like John Asscroft.

Madmartagen 12-13-2003 02:51 PM

jesus christ you fuckin idiots, it was a JOKE!!! that piece about guns not killing you is from GTA3. i believe in a certain amount of gun control. you dont need assault rifles and .50 sniper rifles, do you? just because we are allowed to have guns here doesnt mean every piece of hardware should be available to us. pistols, rifles and shotguns are fine. we live in a violent country where anyone can walk into your home or work and shoot you. i said hunting is gay because it is. what is the sport of finding an animal who is busy eating some grass and trying to find bitches, and then sneak up on him and shooting it in the face with a shotgun? it isnt even a one on one fight. oOo: oOo: hunting as a sport is fucking retarded. thats like ringing your doorbell and someone blasts you with a shotgun because you are in season.

pest 12-13-2003 11:04 PM

sleeping: sleeping: sleeping:

Snuff 12-13-2003 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.



spoken like a true Californian biggrin:

Fireal 12-13-2003 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
i want a gun just to collect and shoot targets. hunting is gay, if you want food, go to the supermarket. i dont need a gun if someone breaks in my house, ill beat his ass.


How is hunting gay?
The thrill of tracking the kill is fun. Then taking your shot.
Its not really about the food.

Arkan 12-13-2003 11:24 PM

Madmartagen, i'm not a hunter nor have i ever killed an animal with a gun but your assessment of hunting is totally retarded. Don't knock something until you've tried it. Oh, and another thing, i'd like to see you kick my ass if i ever broke into your house! I'd use you for a fucking battering ram to get into your neighbors house!

Now, getting back on topic, i'm mixed on gun control. I feel law abiding people who pass a background check should be allowed to own a firearm. The law should be tough on people who commit a crime with a gun. Commit a crime with a gun, you should be sent away for a very long time with no plea bargaining!

Wilko 12-13-2003 11:31 PM

Re: Gun control?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddball
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold
I myself am against it, Aus got rid of all of their guns, their crime rate went up, along with the murder and stolen property.....so I have heard....it sounds really stupid, but if more people had guns the crime rate would go down because a criminal isnt going to come into your house unarmed if he thinks you have a gun in the dresser beside your bed....

Australia controlled guns and our crime rate went up? What frigging planet are you on, mate? I am actually proud of the fact that only 69 people per year in Australia are killed by guns. Compare that to the US 11,000. Auto rifles and handguns should be controlled. Hunting rifles and shotguns are OK. In Australia, the only people I know who own guns are people who live on properties and guns are used to control pests and threats to livestock.

also, increasing the no. of guns is going to make the crime rate soar. the scenario you depict sounds OK. but arguements on the street are going to end up with someone dead rather than someone with a black eye.

Also if people come out with the "control guns, then you'd have to control other stuff like knives" is BS. You can run away from a guy with a knife. I'd much rather swallow my pride and bolt and live, rather than take on a guy with a knife.

hehe, Someone's seen 'Bowling for Columbine' cool:

My $0.02 - No Offense intended, but from i hear/statistics, etc, America's Crime rate is ridiculous, so perhaps owning handguns and such is a good idea. However, I don't think Australia's crime rate is high enough to justify people owning Handguns for personal protection.

Also, Just for the record, I dislike Hunting. The idea of killing something defenseless for the sheer thrill of ending it's life doesn't float my boat, frankly. Call me old-fashioned. If it's a pest, or it needs to be culled, then sure. But not for the hell of it. hake:

Flame me if you will, but it's my opinion.

12-13-2003 11:58 PM

Re: Gun control?
 
[quote="Captain Wilkins":c0e90]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddball
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold
I myself am against it, Aus got rid of all of their guns, their crime rate went up, along with the murder and stolen property.....so I have heard....it sounds really stupid, but if more people had guns the crime rate would go down because a criminal isnt going to come into your house unarmed if he thinks you have a gun in the dresser beside your bed....

Australia controlled guns and our crime rate went up? What frigging planet are you on, mate? I am actually proud of the fact that only 69 people per year in Australia are killed by guns. Compare that to the US 11,000. Auto rifles and handguns should be controlled. Hunting rifles and shotguns are OK. In Australia, the only people I know who own guns are people who live on properties and guns are used to control pests and threats to livestock.

also, increasing the no. of guns is going to make the crime rate soar. the scenario you depict sounds OK. but arguements on the street are going to end up with someone dead rather than someone with a black eye.

Also if people come out with the "control guns, then you'd have to control other stuff like knives" is BS. You can run away from a guy with a knife. I'd much rather swallow my pride and bolt and live, rather than take on a guy with a knife.

hehe, Someone's seen 'Bowling for Columbine' cool:

My $0.02 - No Offense intended, but from i hear/statistics, etc, America's Crime rate is ridiculous, so perhaps owning handguns and such is a good idea. However, I don't think Australia's crime rate is high enough to justify people owning Handguns for personal protection.

Also, Just for the record, I dislike Hunting. The idea of killing something defenseless for the sheer thrill of ending it's life doesn't float my boat, frankly. Call me old-fashioned. If it's a pest, or it needs to be culled, then sure. But not for the hell of it. hake:

Flame me if you will, but it's my opinion.[/quote:c0e90]

yeah, if you need to hunt, be fair and use a flintlock or bow, if you miss, the animal takes you out, if you're good, you take it out.

But criminals are a different story, I'd pump one full of lead, then pop in a fresh clip and repeat comegetsome:

Unknown_Sniper 12-14-2003 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest
Oh and BTW, clintons assault rifle ban expires next year. Dont expect to see the current administration renew it. hellfire: That law was so random and ineffective, it needs to die.

he banend assault rifles? THe nwhy did my bros riends dad buy an AR-15? or all those other pople that buy assault rifles around my town?

12-14-2003 12:04 AM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":c4fe7]
Quote:

Originally Posted by pest
Oh and BTW, clintons assault rifle ban expires next year. Dont expect to see the current administration renew it. hellfire: That law was so random and ineffective, it needs to die.

he banend assault rifles? THe nwhy did my bros riends dad buy an AR-15? or all those other pople that buy assault rifles around my town?[/quote:c4fe7]

did he buy full auto?
AFAIK you can still buy a full auto with a class-3 license, but you can't buy large-mag semi-auto rifles (whereas you could before without special permit, ie only passing background check)

Unknown_Sniper 12-14-2003 12:06 AM

I dunno eek: he has a lot of guns...Um....he thinks some cult is goign ot try and take over the world so hes stocking up. But he moved to georgia so I dunno anymore

ErichHartmann 12-14-2003 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
jesus christ you fuckin idiots, it was a JOKE!!! that piece about guns not killing you is from GTA3. i believe in a certain amount of gun control. you dont need assault rifles and .50 sniper rifles, do you? just because we are allowed to have guns here doesnt mean every piece of hardware should be available to us. pistols, rifles and shotguns are fine. we live in a violent country where anyone can walk into your home or work and shoot you. i said hunting is gay because it is. what is the sport of finding an animal who is busy eating some grass and trying to find bitches, and then sneak up on him and shooting it in the face with a shotgun? it isnt even a one on one fight. oOo: oOo: hunting as a sport is fucking retarded. thats like ringing your doorbell and someone blasts you with a shotgun because you are in season.

My dads a miami police officer which all of miami police officer's think owning a gun is the perfect thing to stop the crime. Guns control well just keep taking away little by little your gun.
Now, back to this quote. Well buddy what you just said is basicly the same thing as saying why does the military have Mg's and snipers and anti tank guns. Well, then why don't they take away Mg's from them
and let them pistols from a 2 mile radius to kill someone.
So when it comes to hunting for example we go hunting and i bring a gun and a bear comes to ram both of us. We shouldn't kill it to save are own life for to save animal. Then i would think your a tree hugger.
So i will never support gun controll for these democrats which all of them want your guns.

Oddball 12-14-2003 12:13 AM

Yeah, I've only gone rabbit shooting once, and rabbits are an introduced pest in Oz. So it was more pest control than hunting.

But I don't really see the point in shooting something like ducks or deer.

ErichHartmann 12-14-2003 12:16 AM

Also i only think killing animals for saving some one or your ownlife but for food thats somthing else

Fireal 12-14-2003 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErichHartmann
Also i only think killing animals for saving some one or your ownlife but for food thats somthing else

Deer meat isnt that great.
I kill for the kill itself

ErichHartmann 12-14-2003 12:18 AM

[quote="Animal Mother":3841f]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ErichHartmann
Also i only think killing animals for saving some one or your ownlife but for food thats somthing else

Deer meat isnt that great.
I kill for the kill itself[/quote:3841f]

Nice LOL!

pest 12-14-2003 12:21 AM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":ec876]
Quote:

Originally Posted by pest
Oh and BTW, clintons assault rifle ban expires next year. Dont expect to see the current administration renew it. hellfire: That law was so random and ineffective, it needs to die.

he banend assault rifles? THe nwhy did my bros riends dad buy an AR-15? or all those other pople that buy assault rifles around my town?[/quote:ec876]

He banned a number of assualt rifles, mostly the "hollywood" guns, as well as made a number of items illegal when in certain configurations, like flash suppressors, short barrels, high capacity clips, folding stocks, etc. The practical effect of the ban was nil, because the things that were banned were for teh media, not for true control.

The ar15 did not fall under the ban, but any with folding stocks or anything listed above was deemed illegal if assembled on the gun. A friend of mine has an ar15 the is legal by todays standards, and he also has all the parts that are legal as long as they arent mounted. So he legally owns all the makings of an illegal gun. How can that be effective?

pest 12-14-2003 12:22 AM

[quote="Animal Mother":52d89]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ErichHartmann
Also i only think killing animals for saving some one or your ownlife but for food thats somthing else

Deer meat isnt that great.
I kill for the kill itself[/quote:52d89]

WTH?? Venison is the bomb.

Oddball 12-14-2003 12:42 AM

Man, go at that deer with a boomerang or a bow and arrow, not a gun. Give the thing a chance.

Also deer meat is actually very nice. Has almost no fat. Very lean meat.

Madmartagen 12-14-2003 03:23 AM

[quote="ErichHartmann :My dads a miami police officer which all of miami police officer's think owning a gun is the perfect thing to stop the crime. Guns control well just keep taking away little by little your gun.
Now, back to this quote. Well buddy what you just said is basicly the same thing as saying why does the military have Mg's and snipers and anti tank guns. Well, then why don't they take away Mg's from them
and let them pistols from a 2 mile radius to kill someone.
So when it comes to hunting for example we go hunting and i bring a gun and a bear comes to ram both of us. We shouldn't kill it to save are own life for to save animal. Then i would think your a tree hugger.
So i will never support gun controll for these democrats which all of them want your guns.[/quote]

The term 'gun control' doesn't involve the military whatsoever. Gun control is an issue among the civilian population, not the military. What does a civilian need a .50 sniper rifle or an assault rifle for? Another thing, you can go to any gun store and get an m16 LIKE rifle that is semiautomatic only, not full automatic. Thats ok since its just basically a rifle, and rifles are fine with me, I have one myself and I don't rob banks, sell drugs, or raise small bands of counter-insurgents in my backyard.

And another thing, never in my life would I go fuck with a goddamned bear, ok? you've got to be a fucking retard to go and look for a bear to kill, so when you said 'we,' you were actually saying 'I' and 'myself.' If by some remote chance, Baloo wandered into my house in Anaheim, CA, I would obviously have to kill it because when it comes down to the point of life or death, it's obviously not a hard choice. Now I don't know if being mauled or rammed by a bear is a daily threat in your life, but it isn't for me. One thing you can do to avoid a dangerous attack by a bear in your own home is to close the door and lock it so it can't come inside. I don't think Michael Chrichton included door opening bears in Jurassic Park, but if you are mauled by a bear, you basically went out of your way and made an appointment for that.

BTW anyone who tries to break into my house will get his shit pushed in by myself, my brother, father and neighbors after he is mauled by my dogs, ok?


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