just wondering... you guys use blanks right?

do you or have you ever tried using airsoft guns or other similar bb guns?

goto the webpage and take a look, they can create any gun you want... make it very authentic and it can also shoot pretty decent...not enough to really hurt... but you will know if u hit someone....

i think that would add alot more realism to your combat.... i mean rather then shooting someone and yelling "hey i got you... look dead"
you can really smoke em in the leg and i bet they wouldnt question your aim....




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we would use that stuff except for two reasons:
We would have to wear goggles due to the safety risk, not to mention our insurance provider would freek if we didn't. only motorcycle, tankers, pilots, and a few other speciazed personel ever wore goggle in combat durring ww2 so it would not be authentic for us.

and 2, there is no better feeling than to pick up the real thing. to know that you are using something that has a history (ALL of our german and most of our american weapons were USED in ww2). plus you cant really get the same effect of reloads and such when you use pellets. not to mention the SMELL of burning cordite and powder *wonderous sigh*.

There are a few more reasons but I will leave you with the two most major reasons...

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JezusChr7st:
i mean rather then shooting someone and yelling "hey i got you... look dead"
you can really smoke em in the leg and i bet they wouldnt question your aim....
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We don't call out hits because 90% of our combat is in what would be considered 'close range', just like in ww2. if I were to shoot at you from twenty feet with my mauser of waffen's MG42, you would realize, "holly sh*t, I'm dead" but we realize that some shots are debateable so we are on the honor system, "if you think you might be hit, just take it...", we are all buddies in the club, germans and ami's alike.



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hmm, i just see it as being kinda gay shooting blanks at each other and pretending to be hit....... reminds me of a couple kids on my block running around shooting cap guns at each other... but i get what you mean.

meh, if it was me i would want to see and hear the bullet/pellet hit..... besides if you have the money you can get those airsoft guns pretty powerfull.....

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JezusChr7st:
hmm, i just see it as being kinda gay shooting blanks at each other and pretending to be hit....... reminds me of a couple kids on my block running around shooting cap guns at each other... but i get what you mean.

meh, if it was me i would want to see and hear the bullet/pellet hit..... besides if you have the money you can get those airsoft guns pretty powerfull.....

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It could still be fun you know. I would join just to learn some history.



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i would join just to see what my grandfather went through , but still i think it would be impossible to simulate the complete state of mind and atmosphere that he experianced when he was at war . it would be fun though . i really wish i had the free time to do something like this . i remember one day when i was young my grandfather showed me a letter he framed and had on the wall . it was the speech that MacArthur presented to congress when he was dismissed as commander in chief of the UN forces during Korea . i was too young to understand what he was showing me but , now i realise how he must have felt back then and i try to see what it must have been like . after he died , i kept that speech and put it up on my wall . i always had it in the back of my mind to join the military since i have a strong military background on my father's side , but i became a lazy ass and now i'm too old http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/frown.gif i guess .

nice story...
i dont have any neat stories like that... but my great grandfather on my dad's side... he was a field medic i think and has like 10 different medals at my grandparents house... pretty neat stuff


and i didnt mean it that way.. i guess it does sound kinda mean now... i just meant the blanks would be neat.. but IMO i would perfer to actually hit something...

but yeah you do what u can for the sake of money/safety etc

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my whole life I have wanted to be a re-enactor, when I used to go to civil war ones it was so cool, maybe I will get to be one somedau

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Hey, angel, where are you from, I could give you the URL of your local re-enacting club. They are all over the US canada and Europe...

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atlanta,georgia althought sadly I am only 14, I would eventually love to be a reenactor

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Do you know of any in Australia Burgen ?
Also, Is it a paying job http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif ?

Uh, I can't remember there being any clubs in Australia off the top of my head. Check www.atthefront.com and thier links page. And NO, it is not a paying job. quite the contrary, it is a hobby only, an expensive one at that, I have spent well over $1000 on my uniform and gear. just about every re-enactor's wet-dream is to be payed for doing it. maybe bill gates could be talked into finacing us...

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Oh wait, check this URL out: http://angelfire.com/scifi/fantasywar/allies.html

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Do prices come down to how rare an item is ?
Or, Is it the size, calibre etc ?
If it is how much would a BREN guncarrier cost ?

Australian re-enactors? Sure...here they are:

http://www.sa.apana.org.au/~brad/DAK.html

Want to learn more about WW2 re-enacting? Go here:

http://www.reenactor.net/main_htmls/ww2.html]

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Yes, really it comes down to supply and demand, for instance: Only a few companies (3 or 4) reproduce good greman uniforms, so they set the price, Usualy around $500. Where as they made so many Commonwealth P-37 Webbing sets (the fieldgear kit, harness, pack, etc.) and they still produced them into the '50s so they are cheap, around $40. Same thing with weapons and vehicles, A good WWII Jeep will run you around $5000-8000, while a Kubelwagen will run you Around $15000-20000. I have only seen two or three Bren Carriers In the states so they are really expensive, here. You could probibly find a cheep one since you live Down under.

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It really comes down to location, for instance, American suplus gear here in america is cheap, in Europe it is expensive. German stuff is cheep in Europe, but expensive here. You should have no problem finding cheap commonwealth gear in Australia. You just have to look for it...

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Re-enacting would be quite an experience, I wouldnt mind finding some in Australia if they are around, but I'm joining the Army next year so I guess I wont need too, hehe.

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So, how much would it have cost steven spielberg and dreamworks to "rent" all those, Sd.Kfz-251's and Tigers and LCVP's ? Or would the owners be happy to see their vehicles up on screen and let him have them for free ?
Sorry for all the questions...I'm just interested http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif Also, do you need a gun licence to handle WW2 guns that are like, welded shut, and have had the firing pin removed ?

http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif Me trigger happy

Sorry to burst your bubble but the 'Tiger' in SPR wasn't a tiger, It was built by the studio on a russian T-34 chassis (notice the Oil-Drum lid used as the turret hatch), those run around $7000 plus shipping, really cheap as far as tanks go (russian surpluss is just that way...). We just bought a SdKfz 251/D from england for $13000, still cheap, it was actually made by Tatra in Czechoslovakia durring the 50s, many eastern block countries used german designed vehicles into the 80s! Also the LCVPs were also made by the studio out of plywood, that is what they were made of originally (scary, eh?)

And, No, at least in the US, anyone can buy a Dewat (unfireable) display gun. It is just that if you make them able to fire, you will be in BIG, BIG trouble!

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Ha, Oil drum lid...That's real cheap http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/biggrin.gif