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Madmartagen 02-24-2004 10:37 AM

Arnold wants foreign borns to be eligible for White House
 
I personally dont have any problems with people like Arnold running for President of the United States, although I didnt vote for him. But I think his legitimacy is pretty unquestionable. He may have a strong accent, but he has been in the US for quite some time, has strong ties to our nation, and I think should have as much chance as any other person to make this bid. If they do somehow amend the constitution to allow foreign born citizens to run for president, they should meet some requirements. What does everyone else think?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/ ... index.html

Duke_of_Ray 02-24-2004 10:39 AM

Be born here.

guarnere 02-24-2004 10:40 AM

I voted hell no.

Mr.Buttocks 02-24-2004 10:40 AM

Ahhhnold is a nazi sympathiser. he needs to stfu.

answer is no.

Hollywood 02-24-2004 10:43 AM

I think yes, if special restrictions apply. I don't think we should exclude someone because they were born in another country decades ago, especially if they have made the contributions that Arnold has made.

Snuff 02-24-2004 10:44 AM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":a1905]Be born here.[/quote:a1905]

Fireal 02-24-2004 10:45 AM

Hell no, we should block off entrances from other countries.

FUck all these foreigners

Unknown_Sniper 02-24-2004 11:41 AM

NO. The title for president REQUIRES you to be born here. Plus I dont wanna turn into a fucked up country no NO.

Arch 02-24-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
I think yes, if special restrictions apply. I don't think we should exclude someone because they were born in another country decades ago, especially if they have made the contributions that Arnold has made.

I agree, only if the person has contributed greatly and if he can keep contributing to the country.

Donjuan, hush happy:

Bullitt 02-24-2004 01:00 PM

OMG demoliton man is predicting the future (if that happens)

Paintballr 02-24-2004 01:06 PM

I voted Hell no even though nobody is technacly a "true born american" since we are all from different countries :)

Proteus 02-24-2004 01:08 PM

Of coarse he wants foreign born, he's fucking foreign. No way in fucking hell is what I say. We shouldn't change this government for a fucking power hungry movie star.

Sgt. Paine 02-24-2004 01:26 PM

yay lets have al quida leading our contry.

um yea


i think all the blacks will get p/o-ed since they havent had a black president yet. maybe never.

Eames 02-24-2004 01:30 PM

Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?

Arch 02-24-2004 01:35 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":a056a]Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?[/quote:a056a]

True, take a look at Peru, it was ran by a chinese born guy. And where is peru now? complete poverty annoy:

TonyMontana 02-24-2004 01:35 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":24e12]Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?[/quote:24e12]

of course it makes since

Short Hand 02-24-2004 01:37 PM

why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:

Arch 02-24-2004 01:38 PM

[quote="Short Hand":01638]why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:[/quote:01638]

He looks more of a troll to me oOo:

TonyMontana 02-24-2004 01:39 PM

[quote="Short Hand":261c1]why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:[/quote:261c1]

Lets say, they have to live in the USA for about 15-20 yrs, then i guess there wouldn't be a problem with it

Short Hand 02-24-2004 01:40 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":cf5b5]Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?[/quote:cf5b5]

So it is ok if Arnold runs but, it is not ok if Hung Suan runs because he isnt pure blood enough for you ?. You define your president by skin colour. How smart.

Eames 02-24-2004 01:40 PM

[quote="Short Hand":75999]why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:[/quote:75999]

enlightend? by today's imigrants? most of whom don't even speak english and are here illeagally...they shouldnt even be able to vote or collect benifits. I do agree that arnold would be a great president way better then bush, but unless they pass a law saying only white males can be president...then foriegners shouldn't be able to vote....let alone run for office.

Short Hand 02-24-2004 01:40 PM

[quote=TonyMontana]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":dc3dc
why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:

Lets say, they have to live in the USA for about 15-20 yrs, then i guess there wouldn't be a problem with it[/quote:dc3dc]

Yes I could see that being a requirement. Fresh off the boat wouldn't work to well in some cases.

Eames 02-24-2004 01:43 PM

[quote="Short Hand":8158e][quote="Cpl. Eames":8158e]Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?[/quote:8158e]

So it is ok if Arnold runs but, it is not ok if Hung Suan runs because he isnt pure blood enough for you ?. You define your president by skin colour. How smart.[/quote:8158e]

its not there country, there guests here...there ancestors didn't create this country, there lucky we're generous enough to let them live here...they shouldnt have a say in anything.

Arch 02-24-2004 01:45 PM

This country was created by them. Your ancestors.

SoLiDUS 02-24-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proteus
Of coarse he wants foreign born, he's fucking foreign. No way in fucking hell is what I say. We shouldn't change this government for a fucking power hungry movie star.

Arnold: Hmmm, I want to be president... and I'm popular enough... but I'm
foreign! Damn! I need a way to manipulate the system such that I may run,
but how ? I've got it!

The rest is history in the making. I'm telling you now: I vote for Dolph Lundgren...

Eames 02-24-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch
This country was created by them. Your ancestors.

ya this country was made by my white anglo-saxon ancestors...everyone else is just a guest and should act like it.

Hollywood 02-24-2004 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch
This country was created by them. Your ancestors.

Exactly, learn your history and pay attention to current events before you make an ignorant statement like that. Unless you're 100% American Indian your ancestors were immigrants.

Machette 02-24-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch
This country was created by them. Your ancestors.

Exactly, learn your history and pay attention to current events before you make an ignorant statement like that. Unless you're 100% American Indian your ancestors were immigrants.

Exactly.

Short Hand 02-24-2004 02:14 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":f4940][quote="Short Hand":f4940][quote="Cpl. Eames":f4940]Even though arnald's aryan and a badass who I wouldnt mine being president, if he was allowed to be president then that might set a precedent that some fucking other non-aryan imigrant could use to run for office. Besides, the requirment of having to be born in the united states makes since...how the hell could you lead a country you weren't even born in?[/quote:f4940]

So it is ok if Arnold runs but, it is not ok if Hung Suan runs because he isnt pure blood enough for you ?. You define your president by skin colour. How smart.[/quote:f4940]

its not there country, there guests here...there ancestors didn't create this country, there lucky we're generous enough to let them live here...they shouldnt have a say in anything.[/quote:f4940]

As I see it our anchestor kinda put a pistol to the natives head and took the land. Your nothing but a right wing moron. (Not that im left wing).

Madmartagen 02-24-2004 02:36 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":b8a5f][quote="Short Hand":b8a5f]why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:[/quote:b8a5f]

enlightend? by today's imigrants? most of whom don't even speak english and are here illeagally...they shouldnt even be able to vote or collect benifits. I do agree that arnold would be a great president way better then bush, but unless they pass a law saying only white males can be president...then foriegners shouldn't be able to vote....let alone run for office.[/quote:b8a5f]

Before you start criticizing other peoples ability to speak english, maybe you should take a couple of classes yourself.

Chronic Diarrhea 02-24-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
The rest is history in the making. I'm telling you now: I vote for Dolph Lundgren...

Yeah! The guy has an IQ of 160.

Pyro 02-24-2004 02:37 PM

It would be a good change. A Fresh mind who the people agree with voted in instead of a brainwashed american born.

Colonel 02-24-2004 02:37 PM

Heck no. The authors of the Constitution wrote the dang thing when folks were flooding into the country from all over the world and they felt being natural born was important enough to put it in the Constitution. I see no reason to change it.

Eames 02-24-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch
This country was created by them. Your ancestors.

Exactly, learn your history and pay attention to current events before you make an ignorant statement like that. Unless you're 100% American Indian your ancestors were immigrants.

learn my history? Seing how I already have 28 college credit hours of history and i havent even entered a college classroom, let me educate you. My ancestors, the people that created this country came from england. When they arrived here there was nothing to "immigrate" to, it was uncharted unexplored hostile country. They weren't immigrants, they were conquerors, settlers, colonist who had to overcome the untamed and inhosbitable land, build communities and conquer the local savages. MY ancestors after colonizing and creating american society fought to defend what they had created with their own sweat and blood from foriegners, my ancestors signed the declaration of independence, bore the brunt of the revolutionary war, and created the constitution. There was no united states of america untill my white anglo saxon protestant ancestors created it, and they were generous enough to open up to imigration by foriegners the land they had faught and sacraficed so much for, and now a days no one remembers there sacrafice, everyones brain washed to believe that everyone is "equal" and a former imigrant, which is complete bull shit. I'm not an imigrant, I've been here for 400 years before the united states existed, and i'll be damned if I let some fucking foriegner rule my country or try and impose their culture on me when they are in fact guests in the country my fore-fathers created.

So basicly, if your a hyphenated american your only half american and should sit down and stfu.

Pyro 02-24-2004 03:41 PM

You make it seem like you owned the country. Invading and taking it over basically is not owning, America was founded on terrorism basically. Just like all uncharted places.

geRV 02-24-2004 03:46 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":ed3d4][quote="Short Hand":ed3d4]why not ?. Afraid you might become more enlightened ? All I know is Arnold is a lot better then the fucking monkey in the WH right now. rock:[/quote:ed3d4]

enlightend? by today's imigrants? most of whom don't even speak english and are here illeagally...they shouldnt even be able to vote or collect benifits. [/quote:ed3d4]



[quote:ed3d4]Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
[/quote:ed3d4]

Guess that means fuck all now huh. Morons oOo:

02-24-2004 03:57 PM

Eames, please don't make me take out the facts and prove just how assinine your assumption is that only anglo-saxons made the US great

[quote:cd8bf]So basicly, if your a hyphenated american your only half american and should sit down and stfu.[/quote:cd8bf]

so an African-American who was born here, whose father, grandfather, and great grandfather were also born here is only half American???

You're starting to show your racist streak again.

Machette 02-24-2004 04:09 PM

good going Stryker happy:

elstatec 02-24-2004 04:10 PM

well anythings better than a redneck oil baron huh?


and arch's point proves the winner, dont argue as its true

Madmartagen 02-24-2004 04:19 PM

Eames what the fuck are you talking about? Just because no Englishman had set foot upon America at the time doesnt mean it was unchartered, untamed territory. The savages you spoke of are the only reasons why your ancestors were able to survive on this new rock. If they hadnt shown them how to survive out here, they would have froze, starved, or died of disease if they hadnt already on the boat trip over here. And how did the colonists show their gratitude? They fuckin shot them up, burned their towns, took their land and waged war on them after breaking dozens of their own treaties, which I may add, are legal documents. We celebrate and remember the 'hard work' our ancestors did by remembering Thanksgiving, 4th of July, Presidents Day, and the countless bullshit printed in our text books, so go cry me a fucking river next time you feel like immigrants are forgeting their place as 'guests' in this country.


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