Gun safety presenter shoots self
 

[url:04e48]http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/01/dea.shooting.ap/index.html[/url:04e48]

ORLANDO, Florida (AP) -- A federal drug agent shot himself in the leg during a gun safety presentation to children in what police describe as an accident. His bosses, however, are still investigating the incident.

The Drug Enforcement Administration agent, whose name was not released, was speaking April 9 to about 50 adults and students organized by the Orlando Minority Youth Golf Association, witnesses and police said.

He drew his .40-caliber duty weapon and removed the magazine, according to the police report. He then pulled back the slide and asked an audience member to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded.

Witnesses said when the agent released the slide, one shot fired into the top of his left thigh. The gun was pointed at the floor.

The agent was treated at Orlando Regional Medical Center and returned to work, a DEA official said.

Im glad he didnt shoot a kid.

irony strikes again

Im pretty confused on if he removed the magazine, then pulled back the slide... How was there a bullet in the chamber? In every handgun Ive ever fired when the slide is pulled back after the magazine is released if there was a round in the chamber the round ejects leaving a safe weapon. The story doesnt make sense

Maybe he cocked it and then took the mag off. That would result in a round in the chamber, but your right, if he took the mag off first and cocked it, the round should be ejected.

the only other thing I can think of is if the round isn't ejected until the slide is put forward again. If he cocked it back and asked the student to look in it and then it went off, that is possible. Thats why you cock twice after removing the magazine. The first ejects the round. The second you can look in the chamber to make sure there isn't anything there.

sounds like a defective weapon to me, generally the chambered round ejects oOo:

What the hell was he doing with live rounds? He could used blanks for an example.

$10 says it was a kid in the audience that shot him.

what a freakin idiot. Live rounds around kids annoy:

Blanks are still very dangerous.

What stupid fuck in there right mind would cock there gun b4 ejecting there magazine for a presentation?

anyway it does say he "He drew his .40-caliber duty weapon and removed the magazine, according to the police report. He then pulled back the slide and asked an audience member to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded."

the story isnt accurate unless the bullet was jammed then there is no way a bullet was in the chamber

when he was pulling back the slide he probably had is finger on the trigger and pulled it.

Maybe he thought it'l lbe funny.

wow, gg/

I guess his career as gun safety specialist is over
hake:

I handle firearms all the time and this story doesn't jive with me. When you release the magazine, there's still a round in the chamber. You need to "rack the slide" to eject that round....meaning, you grasp the top of the slide with your weak hand and move it to the rear most position while keeping your trigger finger of the strong hand OUTSIDE the trigger guard. When the slide reaches back, the chambered round will fly out of the ejection port and land on the ground. If i were a betting man, i'd say the agent had his finger in the trigger guard while attempting to rack the slide and squeezed the trigger while making the hand movements causing the firearm to discharge. He needs to go back to firearms training.

Also, whenever you're in firearms training, or showing how to handle a firearm, you never use "live" rounds. You always use training rounds that don't have a live primer and powder in the case. The bullet is usually orange in color. This guy screwed everything up.

No doubt. The only time i've ever used live rounds in the military is when we're firing on the range. All other times, we either used dummy rounds, or if were on ex, blank rounds. I wouldn't even want to use blank rounds for showing people how to use a weapon. I was actually on the range this weekend firing live rounds. Passed all my Personal Weapons tests for the C7 rifle! rock:

idiot =\

WHY THE FUCK WAS IT EVEN LOADED!

[quote="Sgt. Paine":f97a8]WHY THE FUCK WAS IT EVEN LOADED![/quote:f97a8]

Probably because hes still a DEA agent and he could get a call at any time needing him somewhere. Im sure when getting a call youre going to want a loaded weapon. Crack dealers dont throw rocks ya know.

[quote=MrLevinstein]Probably because hes still a DEA agent and he could get a call at any time needing him somewhere. Im sure when getting a call youre going to want a loaded weapon. Crack dealers dont throw rocks ya know.[/quote:395fa]

you could keep the loaded weapon in the car....or something.

[quote=MrLevinstein]Probably because hes still a DEA agent and he could get a call at any time needing him somewhere. Im sure when getting a call youre going to want a loaded weapon. Crack dealers dont throw rocks ya know.[/quote:f72cb]

there is some thing called leaving the clip out. or using a fake gun.

[quote="Sgt. Paine":9a1cf]

there is some thing called leaving the clip out. or using a fake gun.[/quote:9a1cf]

Unless you're talking about an assault weapon, it's called a "magazine", not a "clip".
The bottom line is he should've been using a training gun with dummy bullets. Thats what most law enforcement personnel demonstrate with.

[quote=Arkan]Unless you're talking about an assault weapon, it's called a "magazine", not a "clip".
The bottom line is he should've been using a training gun with dummy bullets. Thats what most law enforcement personnel demonstrate with.[/quote:82841]
sorry Mr. Iburneveryoneaboutonelittlemistakeandisuckmyuncleb obsdick.

[quote="Sgt. Paine":110f2]sorry Mr. Iburneveryoneaboutonelittlemistakeandisuckmyuncleb obsdick.[/quote:110f2]

Paine, you're now an official asshat. I wasn't ripping on you, just pointing something out. I guess your feelings got hurt, i'm sorry for that...NOT!

[quote=Arkan]Paine, you're now an official asshat. I wasn't ripping on you, just pointing something out. I guess your feelings got hurt, i'm sorry for that...NOT![/quote:9e794]

no feelings hurt.

it dont matter about the type of gun, he still shot himself oOo: biggrin:

[quote="Sgt. Paine":c9b8c]
no feelings hurt.

it dont matter about the type of gun, he still shot himself oOo: biggrin:[/quote:c9b8c]

You're right, no need for flames. He was an idiot for shooting himself.

he's also an idiot for using LIVE ROUNDS in front of children. good luck finding a new career, asshat.

Every training bullet i've seen has been silver.

That may be the case in the Uk but not here in the states. We have orange rubber tipped bullets with no powder and a dead primer.

So there's an actual bullet in dummy rounds in that states? All i've seen are silver dummy rounds with no bullet, and the tip pressed off at the top where the bullet would be. Actually now that I think of it, i ahve sen pictures of what you describe, but i've never used them. The dummy rounds we use are just as good or better since theres no bullet at all, no primer, all it is is an empty casing pretty much.

This is as close of an example that i could find. The training round has an orange rubber tip so it won't be confused with a "live" round......and of course, it doesn't fire. These rounds are good trainers because they can be cycled through a semi-auto. Without the tip, they wouldn't be able to be fed through the gun.
[img]http://www.trainingrounds.com/images/product/223.jpg[/img]

ah rubber bullet. gotcha.