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TonyMontana 05-20-2004 03:35 PM

Farenheit 9-11
 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/

[quote:35b00]a documentary that will trace why the U.S. has become a target for hatred and terrorism. It will also depict alleged dealings between two generations of the Bush and bin Laden clans that led to George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden becoming mortal enemies.
[/quote:35b00]

what do you guys think about michael moores latest movie. At the Cannes Festival, he had the longest standing ovation in the history of the festival.. Personally, i cant wait to see it. Bowling For Columbine was great, and Im sure this will too.

Opinions?

Short Hand 05-20-2004 03:36 PM

while i have lost little bits of respect for Mr Moore, i do really want to see this :).

Akuma 05-20-2004 03:36 PM

If it pwned Cannes then it's gotta be good.

I'll be seeing it.

Coleman 05-20-2004 03:36 PM

it's just anti-republican bullshit/pro-democrat bullshit. That's all it is. annoy:

TGB! 05-20-2004 03:40 PM

rolleyes:

Bleeding heart liberal bullshit. Hey I can link any of you to terrorism using "footage" and "facts". . .just like the media linked Iraq to 9/11.

Moore is Barnum and Bailey Journalism at its worst.

Sergeant_Scrotum 05-20-2004 03:40 PM

I cant wait to see it.

Coleman 05-20-2004 03:41 PM

[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040517/capt.sge.rbe57.170504164559.photo00.default-276x379.jpg[/img]

It's a new Fat Bastard for Austin Powers rock:

ninty 05-20-2004 03:41 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":e99e8]it's just anti-republican bullshit/pro-democrat bullshit. That's all it is. annoy:[/quote:e99e8]

So? he's entitled to his views, is he not? Free speech. You don't have to watch it. In fact, you can make your own anti-democratic bullshit/pro-republican bullshit film anytime you want.

Last I heard Mirimax had dropped the rights to distribute the film because there was some stuff on there that they didn't want to have anything to do with or something to the effect. Don't quote me on that, however they did drop the distribution of the film. So currently they are looking for a distributor, if they can't find one, its going to be hard to see it. It won't be in theaters and it won't be on DVD if no one wants to distribute it.

I do want to see it though.

ninty 05-20-2004 03:43 PM

[quote="TGB!":45acc]rolleyes:

Bleeding heart liberal bullshit. Hey I can link any of you to terrorism using "footage" and "facts". . .just like the media linked Iraq to 9/11.

Moore is Barnum and Bailey Journalism at its worst.
[/quote:45acc]

I think uneducated idiots linked iraq to 9/11 more so than the media.

Coleman 05-20-2004 03:43 PM

[quote=ninty9]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Garry Coleman":ad933
it's just anti-republican bullshit/pro-democrat bullshit. That's all it is. annoy:

So? he's entitled to his views, is he not? Free speech. You don't have to watch it. In fact, you can make your own anti-democratic bullshit/pro-republican bullshit film anytime you want.

[/quote:ad933]I'm entitled to my thoughts...and I just said them.

TGB! 05-20-2004 03:48 PM

Buena Vista/Disney dropped distribution of the film in AMERICA (overseas it already has a distributer), and Mirimax is looking to buy the film back (here) from Disney. It was dropped because (rightly so) Disney feared it would be seen as a piece of endorsement of John Kerrys presidential bid (since Uncle Fat Ass has gone on RECORD as saying he wants to use this movie to get Bush out of the White House), which also brings up all kinds of campaign finance violations.

I have no problem with more presenting his OPINION, but when he does so through manipulation, and distorting of the facts theres a problem then. Case in point:

In BFC, he plays a piece of footage of Heston saying "From my cold dead hands" after Moore points out that the convention for the NRA went forward despite the shooting death of a young black child a day earlier. The problem is that piece of footage is from an entirely DIFFERENT convention, before the shooting ever took place. Of course, juxtaposed against the story, it makes him seem like a prick for saying these comments "so soon after the tragedy".

ninty 05-20-2004 03:49 PM

Oh, its right in the trivia section:

In May 2003 Disney (which owns Miramax, the film's distributor) told Miramax that it would not be willing to distribute the film. In May 2004, Michael Moore announced that Disney had officially prohibited Miramax from releasing the film and expressed his frustration that the film was being stifled. Disney said that the decision had been made a year before and chief executive, Michael Eisner, said that Moore was announcing it to create publicity for the film's screening at the Cannes Film Festival. Meanwhile, British distributor Optimum Releasing announced that it would be distributing the film in the UK in the summer of 2004.

Akuma 05-20-2004 03:49 PM

[quote=ninty9]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Garry Coleman":b3132
it's just anti-republican bullshit/pro-democrat bullshit. That's all it is. annoy:

So? he's entitled to his views, is he not? Free speech. You don't have to watch it. In fact, you can make your own anti-democratic bullshit/pro-republican bullshit film anytime you want.

Last I heard Mirimax had dropped the rights to distribute the film because there was some stuff on there that they didn't want to have anything to do with or something to the effect. Don't quote me on that, however they did drop the distribution of the film. So currently they are looking for a distributor, if they can't find one, its going to be hard to see it. It won't be in theaters and it won't be on DVD if no one wants to distribute it.

I do want to see it though.[/quote:b3132]

I heard Mirimax was going to take it but Disney(?) said they couldn't.

Not sure how valid that is, just what I heard.

Edit: Nevermind... Guess I should have refreshed.

Short Hand 05-20-2004 03:54 PM

[quote="TGB!":79c87]Buena Vista/Disney dropped distribution of the film in AMERICA (overseas it already has a distributer), and Mirimax is looking to buy the film back (here) from Disney. It was dropped because (rightly so) Disney feared it would be seen as a piece of endorsement of John Kerrys presidential bid (since Uncle Fat Ass has gone on RECORD as saying he wants to use this movie to get Bush out of the White House), which also brings up all kinds of campaign finance violations.

I have no problem with more presenting his OPINION, but when he does so through manipulation, and distorting of the facts theres a problem then. Case in point:

In BFC, he plays a piece of footage of Heston saying "From my cold dead hands" after Moore points out that the convention for the NRA went forward despite the shooting death of a young black child a day earlier. The problem is that piece of footage is from an entirely DIFFERENT convention, before the shooting ever took place. Of course, juxtaposed against the story, it makes him seem like a prick for saying these comments "so soon after the tragedy".
[/quote:79c87]

TGB this is when your wrong.

You haven't seen the video yet and Im sure it will be credible. + You should be thrilled to get Bush out of office, and Kerry in.

Coleman 05-20-2004 03:57 PM

::to God:: "God, why did you plague the internet with liberals? What did the internet ever do to you?!"

TGB! 05-20-2004 03:59 PM

[quote:97a17]You haven't seen the video yet and Im sure it will be credible.[/quote:97a17]

I dont need to see the video. The man is on a mission. Mudracking at its finest. I could give two shits about bleeding hearts like Moore who have knee-jerk responses to any Bush Co. comment, who sell out the rights of MEN over the rights of WOMEN, who treat minorities (especially blacks) like fucking "fixer uppers". He and the "caring, sensitive, America" can eat a dick for all I care.

Short Hand 05-20-2004 04:00 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":3a6fb]::to God:: "God, why did you plague the internet with liberals? What did the internet ever do to you?!"[/quote:3a6fb]

Without us you would have a Society unjust and cruel. Social Justice isn't generated by Conservative's empathy if you hadn't noticed.

Short Hand 05-20-2004 04:03 PM

[quote="TGB!":abbe5][quote:abbe5]You haven't seen the video yet and Im sure it will be credible.[/quote:abbe5]

I dont need to see the video. The man is on a mission. Mudracking at its finest. I could give two shits about bleeding hearts like Moore who have knee-jerk responses to any Bush Co. comment, who sell out the rights of MEN over the rights of WOMEN, who treat minorities (especially blacks) like fucking "fixer uppers". He and the "caring, sensitive, America" can eat a dick for all I care.[/quote:abbe5]

That "Sensitive America" is the only thing between your ass and the rest of the world wanting to rape it. Let them take the white House for 1 Term. They will do something for America which it desperately needs.

TGB! 05-20-2004 04:06 PM

[quote:1c74e]Without us you would have a Society unjust and cruel. Social Justice isn't generated by Conservative's empathy if you ahdn't noticed.[/quote:1c74e]

LOL! What the hell:

REAGAN Supreme Court Nominations:
Sandra Day O'Connor
*William H. Rehnquist
Antonin Scalia
[Robert H. Bork
Anthony M. Kennedy

NIXON Supreme Court Nominations:
*Warren E. Burger
[Clement Haynsworth,
[G. Harrold Carswell
Harry A. Blackmun
Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
William H. Rehnquist

Yea, dumb ol Nixon nominated these lawless bastards who forced his resignation telling his ass executive privliege didnt include obstruction of justice, and they also - in a great moment of moral injustice - set abortion rights for women nationwide.

Good damn lawless Republican agenda.

TGB! 05-20-2004 04:09 PM

[quote:c62f5]That "Sensitive America" is the only thing between your ass and the rest of the world wanting to rape it. Let them take the white House for 1 Term. They will do something for America which it desperately needs.[/quote:c62f5]

Because Democrats are known for their foreign policy - right? Who got Salt 1 with the Russians? Who negotiated and opened China up? Who managed a pullout with the Vietnamese? Who threw the Gauntlet down in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Milla 05-20-2004 04:22 PM

I hate michale moore, hes a fat fuck and i have no respect for him.

Madmartagen 05-20-2004 04:29 PM

I dont like Michael Moore at all. All he has is an irritating nagging voice with an anti Republican agenda. Its getting old. I dont plan on seeing any of his movies. He is intent on dividing this country just as much as George Bush.

Coleman 05-20-2004 04:39 PM

[quote="Short Hand":08181][quote="Garry Coleman":08181]::to God:: "God, why did you plague the internet with liberals? What did the internet ever do to you?!"[/quote:08181]

Without us you would have a Society unjust and cruel. Social Justice isn't generated by Conservative's empathy if you hadn't noticed.[/quote:08181]to God:: "God, why did you plague the internet with liberals? What did the internet ever do to you?!"

Short Hand 05-20-2004 04:41 PM

Why did God plague the The Internet with Conservative wannabe's who do it to be diffrent. cough yawn" biggrin:

Coleman 05-20-2004 04:44 PM

[quote="Short Hand":46334]Why did God plague the The Internet with Conservative wannabe's who do it to be diffrent. cough yawn" biggrin:[/quote:46334]wow, wow, wow. Wait one minute. It's the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct

Madmartagen 05-20-2004 04:50 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":4ace0][quote="Short Hand":4ace0]Why did God plague the The Internet with Conservative wannabe's who do it to be diffrent. cough yawn" biggrin:[/quote:4ace0]wow, wow, wow. Wait one minute. It's the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct[/quote:4ace0]

Whats wrong with being politically correct?Jjust because you cant see how something is offensive to you doesnt mean it isnt offensive or should just be ignored. Things are made 'politically correct' so that people arent insulted. There are times when this can be a little too overbearing, but saying 'its the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct,' as a negative is just taking the good qualities of some people who have good intentions and twisting them into something else.

Old Reliable 05-20-2004 04:51 PM

michael moore is the best thing to happen to america since sliced cheese. representin flint rock:

Coleman 05-20-2004 04:54 PM

[quote=Madmartagen][quote="Garry Coleman":d952b]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":d952b
Why did God plague the The Internet with Conservative wannabe's who do it to be diffrent. cough yawn" biggrin:

wow, wow, wow. Wait one minute. It's the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct[/quote:d952b]

Whats wrong with being politically correct?Jjust because you cant see how something is offensive to you doesnt mean it isnt offensive or should just be ignored. Things are made 'politically correct' so that people arent insulted. There are times when this can be a little too overbearing, but saying 'its the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct,' as a negative is just taking the good qualities of some people who have good intentions and twisting them into something else.[/quote:d952b]I'm African American, not black, even though I come from Jamaica.
I'm African American, not black, and I'm from Egypt.



G-A-Y

Neo Nazi Hitler 05-20-2004 05:22 PM

[img]http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/hahahah123.gif[/img]

SoLiDUS 05-20-2004 05:29 PM

[quote:8b260]He has given no evidence to substantiate his allegations, but said "someone connected to the White House" and a "top Republican" had put pressure on film companies not to release the film. [/quote:8b260]

Funny.

It IS true, however, that the Bush family had (hell, might still have) strong
ties with the Bin Laden family. Can't wait to see the rabbit he'll pull out this
time.

mr.miyagi 05-20-2004 05:51 PM

Blah
 
[quote="Old Reliable":6ad58]michael moore is the best thing to happen to america since sliced cheese.[/quote:6ad58]

I think Michael Moore is actually doing alot of good to America, would you rather people weren't exposed to these facts he's brought up? alot of the time people need to be spoon-fed different sides to stories because mostly people are too lazy to look deeper into the rabbit hole.

Bowling For Columbine was a fantastic docu/film and I'm glad it got recognised by those Oscar fuckers.

I'm sure this'll get released at some point, it'll get on the net somehow

Madmartagen 05-20-2004 06:01 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":32de5][quote=Madmartagen][quote="Garry Coleman":32de5]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":32de5
Why did God plague the The Internet with Conservative wannabe's who do it to be diffrent. cough yawn" biggrin:

wow, wow, wow. Wait one minute. It's the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct[/quote:32de5]

Whats wrong with being politically correct?Jjust because you cant see how something is offensive to you doesnt mean it isnt offensive or should just be ignored. Things are made 'politically correct' so that people arent insulted. There are times when this can be a little too overbearing, but saying 'its the damn liberals that want to change everything to be all politically correct,' as a negative is just taking the good qualities of some people who have good intentions and twisting them into something else.[/quote:32de5]I'm African American, not black, even though I come from Jamaica.
I'm African American, not black, and I'm from Egypt.

G-A-Y[/quote:32de5]

So, some black people dont want to be called black because of how they were treated when color association was differant 40 years ago. Just like instead of calling someone a 'greedy, corrupt motherfuckin redneck cracker ass cracker who just woke up from his cocaine dream 3 years ago,' you know address that person as Mr. President.

TGB! 05-20-2004 06:27 PM

[quote:ec2a9]I think Michael Moore is actually doing alot of good to America, would you rather people weren't exposed to these facts he's brought up?[/quote:ec2a9]

What facts has he brought up?

Pyro 05-20-2004 06:49 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":da13b]michael moore is the best thing to happen to america since sliced cheese. representin flint rock:[/quote:da13b]

Madmartagen 05-20-2004 07:11 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":000e5]michael moore is the best thing to happen to america since sliced cheese. representin flint rock:[/quote:000e5]

LMAO, yeah right, Michael Moore is a fat piece of shit. Larry Flint, is different, I think Larry Flint did more than Michael Moore ever did.

TonyMontana 05-20-2004 07:12 PM

michael moore made kmart take bullets off the shelf

Johnj 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

I never bought bullets at K mart anyway. Load your own.

mr.miyagi 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

: /
 
Well tonight is not a good night coz im tired as fuck but during the whole thing he's constantly streaming off lists of gun laws, crime rates, various historical events and details all providing the relevant stuff to present his argument.
Facts on Canada that draw interesting comparisons to the U.S and don't say he just made it all up because he hates Bush, blah blah, I think people would've done their research and give him shit for it.

Why does there have to be so many conpsiracies regarding his opinions on who is governing his country, there should always be people questioning what they're doing otherwise they'd get away with so much more stuff. He's trying to get people to see past all the governent's bullshit, he's trying to make a difference, why always be so angry and negative TGB?

05-20-2004 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnj
I never bought bullets at K mart anyway. Load your own.

I wouldn't trust K-mart bullets

*cocks gun*
*boom*
"owww, my face" biggrin:

Old Reliable 05-20-2004 07:47 PM

[quote=Madmartagen]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":c09b8
michael moore is the best thing to happen to america since sliced cheese. representin flint rock:

LMAO, yeah right, Michael Moore is a fat piece of shit. Larry Flint, is different, I think Larry Flint did more than Michael Moore ever did.[/quote:c09b8]

he makes great entertainment value and brings more popular involvement in political critiquing. whats wrong with that?


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