which one should i get?
 

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... ory=BROWSE

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 062&depa=1

im not sure if there really is much diference between these cards and if its worth 30 more dollars for the 5600, also if if someone could find better cards under 90 bucks plz feel free to post them.

heard nothing good about 5600

5200 isnt very strong, really not worth it if you plan on playing new games...

save your money , get 9500 or higher ATI

i could get a 9600se ati for 67 bucks but its specs look similiar to the 5200...

If it must be one of the two, definitely the XT. I would consult benchmarks
and determine which better suits my needs but if it's power you want, take
the latter.

I just got a 5600, I can run farcry compleatly maxed outn& it looks awsome, now mind you it averages about 20fps but on reasonable settings its fine. On games like BF1942 with everything maxed it averages about 40fps. I have had no complaints so far.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/gffx-31.html

A few benchmarks and comparisons near the bottom. Enjoy...

well thanks for the help, but im not that computer techy of a guy...so basicly i dont really understand what most of that stuff says, basicly im just looking for a card that will run half life 2, doom 3, and mohpa on medium settings, im not interested in running the game on maxed out graphics or overclocking the card, i dont really play computer games that much to care, so in your guys opinions will the 5200 be able to run these games? or should i play it safe and go with the 5600?

whos the noob that voted 5200 oOo:

Half Life 2 and Doom 3 won't run for shit on either of those cards. 5600 MIGHT do alright on low-medium settings, but that card sucks. If you want a card that will...look into spending AT LEAST 200 bones on one. And unless you are getting a 6800 Ultra, don't buy from nVidia.

Get a 256 mb 9800 Pro or something like that.

WGAF

256MB 9800 pro has slower ram,so fuck that...Choices:
1)Ati 9800 pro ~200$
2)Ti4200 (get it used on ebay for like 40)

Both of them own the cards you want to buy..

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 19R&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductde ... 024&DEPA=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductde ... 077&DEPA=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 320&depa=1

ok out of these 4, will they run hl2, d3, and mohpa? which one do u recomend me getting?

None..just pay for the 9800 pro damnit,once you crank everything up and dont need to worry about framerates you will know its worth every fuckin cent

being able to max out the graphics isnt important to me at all, i just want to be able to run the game. i think im going with the 9600

JUST GO WEITH THE 4200. TRUST ME ITS YOU BEST OPTION RIGHT NOW. 53 BUCKS AND ITS A ABIT CARD. whoops caps. anyways the rest aren ot worth them oney etc. just stick with that. it will run alot of newer games faster since it has a faster core. sure no dx 9 support like the 9600 or 5600 , but its faster in genral + those other cards dont have the power to run the new dx 9 features right. for the price just go for it. + the abit seires of 4200's are very very very over clockable. which means your gonna get some nice speeds outta it cheap. go for the 4200 eames. CORE = fast which means good. for you price range its you best option.

[quote="Short Hand":a202c]JUST GO WEITH THE 4200. TRUST ME ITS YOU BEST OPTION RIGHT NOW. 53 BUCKS AND ITS A ABIT CARD. whoops caps. anyways the rest aren ot worth them oney etc. just stick with that. it will run alot of newer games faster since it has a faster core. sure no dx 9 support like the 9600 or 5600 , but its faster in genral + those other cards dont have the power to run the new dx 9 features right. for the price just go for it. + the abit seires of 4200's are very very very over clockable. which means your gonna get some nice speeds outta it cheap. go for the 4200 eames. CORE = fast which means good. for you price range its you best option.[/quote:a202c]

will it run hl2 and mohpa?

yes perfectly. , it just ownt support any dx9 features (but that does not matter) the other cards in your budget wont run those features without going to 2 fps. its am uch better choice it will run all games mazing and you can OC it, a avergae gamer like yourself will not even notice the diffrence man. just better fps that all. I bet this card could run Doom 3 on med to high and mohpa on high at a decent res.

[quote="Short Hand":ba81b]yes perfectly. , it just ownt support any dx9 features (but that does not matter) the other cards in your budget wont run those features without going to 2 fps. its am uch better choice it will run all games mazing and you can OC it, a avergae gamer like yourself will not even notice the diffrence man. just better fps that all. I bet this card could run Doom 3 on med to high and mohpa on high at a decent res.[/quote:ba81b]

thanks for the help man, i think ill go with it...i probably wont overclock it cause i can barley install the graphic card myself let alone add more fans or whatever.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 20R&depa=1

the 53 dollar version sold out, so this version slightly more expensive at 59 bucks is still available, but i was looking at these and they say they are "barebone" which means they only come with the card itself...no installation disk, no drivers or no cables....is this bad?

It's not bad. The Driver disks are always outdated and you need to download the lastest ones anyways.

You're warrenty will probaly be limited though.

get the 4200

one of the best cards for the price... still....

i was reading some of the reviews and everyones talking about how their fans died and needed replacement after a few months...and my card probably wont be waranteed very well since its referbished...im having 2nd thoughts on the ti4200.

well acording to the doom 3 hardware guide i can play the game on medium settings with a 5200...

But only at 640x480 which is terrible.

true, so what should i do? i dont wanna buy a card that will have the fan breaking....

buy a 9800xt...if you have the money of course.

If the fan breaks go out and buy a 9$ vantech iceberq..

And im the one that said 4200 first...gg on credit where its due

edit-Short..Mem speed is more important then core speed..Fill up the bandwith holes by OCing the mem and then OC the core for PROCCESING POWER!!!++

9800XT is so overpriced right now. A 9800 Pro with similar performance costs less than $200, while a 6800nu out performs the 9800XT and costs $300 while the 9800XT still costs about $350.

Jesus..You are my man..If i cant get to a question you have equal or greater knowlage in the subject. beer:

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what about this 9800se? what do u guys think of it? will it run hl2, mohpa, and doom 3 in 1024x768 in at least medium setts?

bump

A stock 9800se is just bearly faster than a 9600 Pro. BUT, since it has the 256bit memory interface there is a fairly good chance that it can be softmodded into a 9800 Pro.


Edit: I think the newest Omega drivers actually enable the four extra pipes. So you probaly won't even have to flash BIOS or anything.




I say go for it.

Well eames you dont have to put new fans on a vid card to oc etc. just download powerstrip and its as easy as pushing up a little button.''


+ Conscript they are both important but when you looking at rams speeds most low end cards in this category have the same speeded ram, so a faster core is usually more of the buying point on these cards. eames just go with the 9800Se if your willing to pay and the 4200 if you wanna save both are great buyz. Dont worry bout the fan dieing that only happned to what ? 4 out of 6000 customers ?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 019&depa=1

i think im gonna go with this 9600 pro, its 8 bucks more and the specs seem alot better then the 9800se

[img]http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-240-019-06.JPG[/img]

this is what i setteled on, i looked into it it actually has a faster core speed then alot of 9800 pro's in the 200 dollar price range and its memory is only being beat out by like 75-85 hz plus ive been wanting to get condition zero, how do u think this card will fare in doom 3, hl2, and mohpa?

bump

Core speed is only a part of the total performance. Most important is pipelines. The 9800 Pro has 8 while the 9600 Pro only has 4. Next is memory interface. 9800 Pro has 256bit while 9600 Pro only has 128bit. So the 9600 must have a core and memory speed twice that of the 9800 pro to have equal performance.

Also the 256MB 9600 Pro is a POS. While it has more memory than it's 128MB counterpart, it performs worse because they put really shitty memory in there.

Yeah..Like 5ns bullshits sleeping:

Condition Zero's single player is lame, You have to solve all these little puzles with boxes and bs while killing a bazillion terrorists.

oh well, i needed to get the card today cause im leaving for the citadel soon...but how do u guys think this card will perform on d3, hl2, and mohpa??