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01-30-2002 04:48 AM

Someone said this Swedish server has done that.

Why doesn't like 100 other servers??

Clearly the game designers excpected the Omaha experience to be about MG42s mowing down allies while they scampered to the shingle. Instead it is (like seemingly every map but the V2 complex) being about who has the most snipers and the pillboxes and bunkers are useless.

Please oh please oh please will some other servers change their Omaha maps to No Snipers and No Shotguns like the one server did that is pleasing so many people!

I would love to host a server, but our cable provider forbids it. So I and my roommate are at the mercy of you other guys.

madrebel 01-30-2002 06:09 AM

as far as i know you cant limit 'just' one map.

its all or none.

Fett_72 01-30-2002 08:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by madrebel:
as far as i know you cant limit 'just' one map.

its all or none.
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But you CAN just play one map on the server, which makes the same difference.

Anderson 01-30-2002 11:36 PM

I don't think you can.

MentallyNormal 01-30-2002 11:46 PM

Well I just wish their was better protection while running across the beach.
Them metal crosses don't provide much protecting against enemy gun fire.

But I guess that what makes it more fun.

[This message has been edited by MentallyNormal (edited January 31, 2002).]

Dokken 01-30-2002 11:58 PM

I tried the Multiplayer the other day after I got home from work....it was horrible. I would rather play the Single Player missions over and over again.

Thats the problem with ALL Multiplayer games...everything alwaYS Turns into a Snipe Fest. Happens EVERY time.

DOKKEN

yellow 01-31-2002 12:12 AM

If they can't keep you from sniping, maybe they should just limit the amount of snipers each team can have. Like do a proportion. If there are 1-4 people on the team, 1 can be a sniper. If there are 5-10 on one team, then 2 snipers.

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01-31-2002 12:37 AM

well someone suggested allies with snipers but not axis, which is the total opposite of my idea - allied snipers make the mg42s worthless.

someone suggested moving all spawns up to the shingle, which then makes it something OTHER than Omaha Beach where you had to storm from the boats. I agree it is wrong that you are seemingly penalized for making it all the way to the top and then killed because you have spawn at the boats.

I think you have to get INSIDE the bunker to spawn at the shingle. Anything less is a boat spawn.

I love the idea of limting weapons rather than banning them. But it seems unrealistic, as it would require a very compicated system to figure out who gets to be the sniper when 10 people want it but there is only one or two slots available.

Bottom line: the people who have played the Omaha server that has no snipers LOVED it.

I am not saying all Omahas should be that way. Just wish others would give it a try.

Donster 01-31-2002 12:55 AM

Germans should have snipers. Not the allies.
Very few allies had them survived on D-Day.
I agree that it should be a limited number available though to the Germans. If you are a German in MP, with the allies having sniper rifles, you last about 10 seconds at the most. Not true to history if you ask me.
IMHO.

Donster

Stony 01-31-2002 01:05 AM

The sniper mod for Omaha works great. I played on a server using it just the other day.

As an Allied soldier it made getting to the shingle so much more intense knowing that there were 6 MG42's spraying the beach with lead.

As an Axis player I could actually use the MG42 for longer than 2 seconds. It's harder to drop Allied waves rushing up the beach than one might think.

With this mod Omaha is now a great map to play. The only problem is that the map must stay Omaha or else NO maps will have snipers.

MAXIMUS 01-31-2002 01:28 AM

I totally agree the allies sniping on the map ruins it totally. I've played in a few servers that had the anti sniper mod running, and I can honestly say that it was most exhillerating! It's like Saving private Ryan that way.
However, is it just me or does almost every server that runs omaha beach have less than 10% of a brain left in their heads. Some don't even have the 1.1 patch yet! I can't believe that SERVERS don't even have the damn foggiest idea of mods that come out. I'm sure if more people knew about the anti-sniper mod, they'd put it on. But, what the situation is now is that the servers are so stupid that they don't have a clue. We need to inform all omaha servers that we're on to download the Anti-Sniper mod pronto! If we don't do it, we might have to play through all those ruined allied sniper games.

[This message has been edited by MAXIMUS (edited January 31, 2002).]

Stony 01-31-2002 02:47 AM

Allied snipers really weren't a problem for me as Axis because I knew all the choice hiding spots on the seawall and in the bunkers, and would snipe right back at the wussies who think that hiding next to or inside the Higgins boats gives them cover. 9 out of every 10 I dropped never knew where it came from.

Eventually I would get bored from too many easy picks, so I would change weapons and go wandering around looking for Allies who might have breached the defenses.

But one thing for sure I can tell everybody is that most of those Allied snipers ended up switching weapons because they grew tired of being picked off. My teammates could finally man the MG42's without too much harassment, just as long as I was owning all the Allied snipers.

Some quick advice on Omaha if you're playing as Axis: Shoot the Allies who are standing still.

MAXIMUS 01-31-2002 05:15 AM

Stony, I do thta too, I am an incredible lethal sniper for the axis, and I know where all those idiots snipe from. However, that is not the point. I like NOT having to snipe them ALL the time, and man the guns. Face it, without the anti-sniper mod, there is no way you can seriously have a game where you get to man the mg42's with some sense of safety.

Phoenix62 01-31-2002 05:26 AM

True Stony !
I have an awesome experience on the swedish server running Omaha with no sniper mod !
I felt like in SPR movie !
I played as Allies....i died many times on the beach.....but damn....what a fun !
Not fun about dying...eh eh....
It was the feeling....
With no snper mod...Omaha become an awesome experince...
Try it !

MAXIMUS 01-31-2002 06:17 AM

Where is the Swedish server? What's the ip? I never find any anti sniper games anymore!

Stony 01-31-2002 07:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAXIMUS:
Stony, I do thta too, I am an incredible lethal sniper for the axis, and I know where all those idiots snipe from. However, that is not the point. I like NOT having to snipe them ALL the time, and man the guns. Face it, without the anti-sniper mod, there is no way you can seriously have a game where you get to man the mg42's with some sense of safety.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


That's why I much prefer the OSM servers, but if they're all full and I'm in the mood to play on a regular Omaha server then I'll play to discourage Allied sniping by sniping them myself.



[This message has been edited by Stony (edited January 31, 2002).]

DaFladow 01-31-2002 07:06 AM

kill the snipers, keep the shotguns

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yellow 01-31-2002 07:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LordLovat:
well someone suggested allies with snipers but not axis, which is the total opposite of my idea - allied snipers make the mg42s worthless.

someone suggested moving all spawns up to the shingle, which then makes it something OTHER than Omaha Beach where you had to storm from the boats. I agree it is wrong that you are seemingly penalized for making it all the way to the top and then killed because you have spawn at the boats.

I think you have to get INSIDE the bunker to spawn at the shingle. Anything less is a boat spawn.

I love the idea of limting weapons rather than banning them. But it seems unrealistic, as it would require a very compicated system to figure out who gets to be the sniper when 10 people want it but there is only one or two slots available.

Bottom line: the people who have played the Omaha server that has no snipers LOVED it.

I am not saying all Omahas should be that way. Just wish others would give it a try.
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What they could do is develop a counter where when someone chooses to be a sniper, it counts him as sniper and then no one else can be one until more people join the game and that team.

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yellow 01-31-2002 08:18 AM

They should make it so that the Allies get snipers and the Axis gets to mow down the Allies from the bunkers.

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BMillis 01-31-2002 08:27 AM

I went to the game, it is called:
1.1 Omaha no snipers

Ydiss 01-31-2002 08:54 AM

I personally think the idea that someone brought up to stop sniping from the beach was a good idea... The one where they suggested a barrier for all ballistic weapons through which no Ally could shoot until they got past the barbed wire.

On D-Day not one ally sat down and started picking off targets from the beach. I think this would make it more balanced towards the Axis, but that's how it was in real-life.

Once you have gotten to the bunkers/trenches I do believe the Allies have the advantage as they can charge at more than one point.

There's no bottleneck choke-point to defend, so Allies can all regroup at a point in the trenches and move in as a force.

That's what the real-life beach charges would have required.

Personally, I don't mind Omaha exactly as it is. My only gripe with it is it is much more a DM map than an Objective map due to the respawns.

I played one game on Omaha where not one Axis defended the cannons, they just simply got tons of frags picking off Allies as they charged.

The way I see it is if the Allies all have sniper rifles, you hold back as Axis and let them come. See how useful those sniper rifles will be in the closed areas of the bunkers.

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madrebel 01-31-2002 10:12 AM

yeah that doesnt get boring http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

omaha is already unbalanced towards the axis.

the need to move ALL the spawn points up to the shingle. I think that would do alot to keep the germans pushed back

acgreen 01-31-2002 10:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LordLovat:
[B]Someone said this Swedish server has done that.

Why doesn't like 100 other servers??
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Please oh please oh please will some other servers change their Omaha maps to No Snipers and No Shotguns like the one server did that is pleasing so many people!
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I hear you, brother....



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