Iran?
 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02 ... index.html

rolleyes:

US won't invade Iran.

This administration would be absolutley to do what they did in Iraq with Iran. Iran is 3 times bigger in Area, and also has 60 million people.

I just expect the US and Israel to bomb a bunch of stuff and then overthrow the government. That should fix it.

ninty what if they don't halt there nuclear programs? what do you think may happen...

I don't know. I'm not nearly informed enough on the situation to make even an educated guess.

All I really know is that Iran has a Fanatical Cleric government, and the US doesn't really like that.

As for WMD I suppose I could make an uneducated guess. I don't see any way for the US or even NATO to occupy Iran, so in order to stop the WMD program in Iran, people would probably be assisanated, and perhaps a coup backed by the US. I know there are revolutionaries in Iran, but I don't think it's anywhere near the majority. The Clerics have such a tight grip on the country that hardly anyone would dare go against them.

Again, this is just my uneducated blabbering.

...plus they'd have to deal with this guy!

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Fear the Camel Clutch!

[quote:e2d60]In his state of the union address last week, President Bush singled out Iran as "the world's primary state sponsor of terror -- pursuing nuclear weapons," while depriving its people of freedom.

The administration made similar statements and threats in the run-up to its invasion of Iraq.[/quote:e2d60]

eek: they will never learn

eek: they will never learn[/quote:0c14a]

You don't necessarily have to agree with this adminstration to find truth in this statement.

My old college roommate is Iranian and he basically said he can never go back to see his family or they will probably kill him for slipping out of the country. He used to send stuff home to his little sisters and parents, but he would pack everything in douche or tampon boxes to keep the government from going through the shit and stealing it. Sad.

He told me how all the younger generation and even people his parents age are for a more free country. The problem is that the Muslim fanatics in the government scare people from rising up. I don't blame people though, because they still cut peoples' heads off over there and stone you for God's sake.

There will be no US led invasion of Iran in the near future unless the Iranians do something outrageous.

ohh great another "the only humane thing to do.. invade them and bomb them post" rolleyes:

Why make them halt? made USA halt their nuclear programs, just becuase their skin is dark doesn't mean they are evil and up to no good.

I heard on CNN that we might be doing bombing runs on Iran this summer oOo:

gg

just watched cnn, and they said, North Korea is saying that they have made a nuclear bomb. is it true? who knows

Ordering others around again.

Israel should just fucking chill out as well.

They are just going to keep going after different countries one after another, building up their empire. Usa, that is, well the government, im sure half the country doens't agree.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that it is definitely bad for countries like N. Korea and Iran to have nuclear weapons. These are countries with radical governments that oppress their people, stifle freedom, and have an axe to grind with neighboring countries.

Does that mean that an alliance should be formed and bombing/invasion should commence? Not in my opinion. But, diplomacy and economic isolation should definitely be used to coax these countries into doing what is right, that is not developing nuclear weapons in an age when superpower countries are no longer proliferating these weapons.

If you are of the opinion that the world should sit by and let any country that wishes to develop nuclear weapons do so, then you need to get your head out of the sand. Hell, even China (N. Korea's only ally) is trying to bring the N. Koreans back to the negotiating table.

I shudder at the thought of N. Korea lobbing a nuke at either S. Korea or Japan or the Iranians tossing one Israel's way. If that ever were to happen, Iraq is going to look like a picnic.

My two cents.

Well we strill choose to bomb countries who don't even have the slightest chance of ever getting away with even a minimul attack on USA soil.

It is kinda like being interrogated and them keep thinking you're lying, but you're telling the truth....and then after they finally believe you...they put a bullet in your head.

Thats like the Iraq war.

stupid:

The U.S needs to stop rocket-whoring.


oOo:

Take a look at this article. This doesnt look good. http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&t ... d&cat=Iran

This kind of posturing has been going on for some time.

oh yeah...Iran obviouslly would be a harder task...think of like Germany trying to take over Russia...but probably easier than that.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=7704116


Bush Says Talk of Attacking Iran 'Ridiculous'

[quote:d496e]"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous," Bush told a news conference after talks with European Union leaders.

"Having said that, all options are on the table," he added, drawing laughter at a clear reference to military action. [/quote:d496e]

oOo: dance:

Watch out for Bush, he's very mischievous.

well we have clear problem here. the US doesnt think Iran should have nuclear bombs (i agree). we can negotiate and sanction, but what if Iran doesnt give in? basically, what should be done in the event that a compromise isnt reached? overthrowing the Iranian govt would be pointless, i think the majority of people there favor a theocratic govt. what else is there?

sanctions/starvation
sabotage
bomb the plants
capture the plant and dismantle them
lure the army out and destroy it, leaving a free hand to dismantle

suggestions?

lol.

The Iranian Government which is currently basically the Clerics, made the Koran law, and outlawed all birth control products about 25 years ago i believe. Thus, in this time span the population of Iran doubled. The government realized its mistake and has now allowed birth control products.

What does this ahve to do with anything? Essentially half the population is under 20. There are many students that would favour government reform. Women have no rights. There are different doors for women to enter and exit buildings, and women have to sit on the back of the bus. Iran has many human rights issues.

The Koran is taught in school and must be obeyed.

All of this makes Iran a scary place, and a scary country to have to deal with. Not to mention 60 million people and 3 times the land mass of Iraq.

What can be done? I'm not sure. The UN better step up to the plate and start making themselves a legitimate world body, because that should be their role in the world.

I truly don't see an invasion working. Not by the US, not by NATO, or by anyone. It would be impossible in my opinion. What I see happening is colition bombing runs on specific targets inside of Iran. That is if the Isralies don't try it first.

[quote:0bad0]On Iran, Ritter said that President George W. Bush has received and signed off on orders for an aerial attack on Iran planned for June 2005. Its purported goal is the destruction of Iran’s alleged program to develop nuclear weapons, but Ritter said neoconservatives in the administration also expected that the attack would set in motion a chain of events leading to regime change in the oil-rich nation of 70 million -- a possibility Ritter regards with the greatest skepticism.

The former Marine also said that the Jan. 30 elections, which George W. Bush has called "a turning point in the history of Iraq, a milestone in the advance of freedom," were not so free after all. Ritter said that U.S. authorities in Iraq had manipulated the results in order to reduce the percentage of the vote received by the United Iraqi Alliance from 56% to 48%.[/quote:0bad0]

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.p ... 0222742305
http://electroniciraq.net/news/1881.shtml

this looks a little oOo:...

[url:e42ff]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050227.wnucle0227/BNStory/International/[/url:e42ff]...

I find it funny how when Bush is in Russia they say they are comitted to democracy and that the two countries will work together blah blah blah, and then next day Russia does this. It's all political rhetoric, although this would help the cause for strikes against facilities in Iran if that is infact the new policy.

[quote="bukdez's article":586a0]Russia, which helped build the plant, has agreed to provide the fuel needed to run it — but only if Iran returns the spent fuel to prevent any possibility Tehran would extract plutonium from it to make atomic bombs.[/quote:586a0]

ahhhh...